Dismiss Notice
Subscribe to BeerAdvocate magazine for only $9.99! (Limited time offer, US delivery only)

Under appreciated/under produced beer styles

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BottleCaps80, Feb 15, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Poo-Bah (2,057) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    Under appreciated ... Brown ales and ambers. Also, Irish reds shouldn't be seasonal, make them year-round (especially Boulevard).
  2. n2185

    n2185 Poo-Bah (1,840) Apr 14, 2008 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    Gruits and braggots. I'd rather see some truly unique and historical styles instead of crappier versions of styles that dominate the markets in England and Germany. Also more traditional Baltic porters rather than the "imperial porters" that are labeled as such.
    Willbfun likes this.
  3. kevanb

    kevanb Poo-Bah (1,717) Apr 4, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    There are not enough Goses to satisfy my insatiable thirst for them
    Willbfun likes this.
  4. hardy008

    hardy008 Poo-Bah (1,951) Jan 12, 2008 Minnesota

    Roggenbier and Sahti.
    Willbfun, TMoney2591 and DIM like this.
  5. zid

    zid Champion (848) Feb 15, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    English Strong Ale
    Keller Bier / Zwickel Bier
    TongoRad likes this.
  6. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,035) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
    Supporter Beer Trader

    Speaking of English Strong Ales, try the Yards Jefferson Tavern Ale if you haven't yet; I love their yeast sig. It's quite good, and you'd never guess it's hovering at around 8%.
    Willbfun and dbfp210 like this.
  7. docnose

    docnose Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Alabama

    Porters, and barrel aged porters...
  8. TravisR

    TravisR Initiate (116) Dec 31, 2012 New Jersey

    Tavern Ale is a solid brew, and a staple in my fridge. To the OP, American Strong Ales.
    Willbfun and TongoRad like this.
  9. RattleheadKV2

    RattleheadKV2 Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2011 New Mexico

    Mostly German lager styles; Dunkels, Dopplebocks, Eisbocks, Helles, Marzen.
    BottleCaps80 likes this.
  10. TheSSG

    TheSSG Crusader (798) Jul 27, 2008 Illinois

    This guy knows what's going on.

    Capital's lagers are stunning. Their Doppelbocks are the best, ditto for their Maibock.
    Sweet Jesus are they good.
    djsmith1174 likes this.
  11. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    Please Please release some barrel aged stouts during summer some of us don't like anything besides stout and porter no matter how hot it is outside!!!!
    dar482 likes this.
  12. DaveAnderson

    DaveAnderson Devotee (479) Jan 11, 2011 Minnesota

    Second runnings/small beers/biers de table.
    Droogins likes this.
  13. trevorjk

    trevorjk Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2009 Netherlands
    Beer Trader

    If you want German style beers, look no further than Wisconsin.

    I want American Breweries to take a stab at a GOOD 5% Chezch Pilsner.

    America has ruined pilsner beers for me. Luckily i live in Europe now and can have some damn good pilsners daily :slight_smile:
    Vonstein15 and dar482 like this.
  14. Lutter

    Lutter Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 Texas

  15. trevorjk

    trevorjk Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2009 Netherlands
    Beer Trader

    Same goes for New Glarus's full line up of German style Lagers. Not to mention Just about every self respecting brewery in wisconsin has at least 1 or 2 different german style beers. (lake front, O'so, Central, and just about every micro brewery in existense in Wi) Wisconsin is the next best thing for German beers outside of Germany.
    TheSSG likes this.
  16. crytion

    crytion Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2010 Ohio

    imperial red ales.
    mporter13 and Falcone like this.
  17. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    Eisbocks, they sound interesting!
    rale and Willbfun like this.
  18. bilboTbaggins

    bilboTbaggins Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    india tan ale. Think about it
  19. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    Pilsners are highly effected by the water used to brew them at least if you want a good one theirs a reason certain parts of europe does it better.
  20. kdb150

    kdb150 Devotee (472) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    If you can get your hands on Williamsburg (VA) Alewerks Bourbon Barrel Porter, I highly recommend it. It's very bourbon forward young, but the bourbon mellows out beautifully in 6-12 months.
    Chaney and docnose like this.
  21. kdb150

    kdb150 Devotee (472) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    English-style brown ales are horribly underrepresented. I've never understood why American breweries see fit to ruin a perfectly good brown ale by adding too much hops to it. Smuttynose Old Brown Dog comes close to scratching my itch, but this is one style I've resorted to making myself, since no commercial brewery seems to produce the beer I want.
  22. MammaGoose

    MammaGoose Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Wyoming

    (This is somewhat contrary to my "I hate gimmicky beers" thread)...

    I'd also like to see some more play on traditional styles that don't get as much love. We see a lot of Imperial/Double IPAs, lots of Imperial and barrel-aged stouts, even a fair amount of Imperial Reds and such. I'd like to see more styles get that kind of attention. Stouts and IPAs have, by definition, strong bold flavors, so it's easier to just amplify that. A brown or a wheat or something are characterized by a more mellow balanced profile. It might be trickier to make the flavor bolder while still maintaining the balance of the styles.

    There are af few examples...Nugget Nectar is an Imperial Amber if I'm not mistaken? I had an Imperial oak-aged Belgian wit from River North which I thought was awesome. It can definitely be done.
  23. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    also try Dragons Milk
  24. DIM

    DIM Poo-Bah (2,318) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    God I miss roggenbier.
  25. fatsnowman22

    fatsnowman22 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2011 Nevada
    Beer Trader

    Esb, saison, Brett ipa
  26. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Disciple (335) Sep 14, 2011 Missouri

    Steam/California Common
    Bier de Garde
    in addition to many others I liked above
  27. docnose

    docnose Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Alabama

    I'll add it to my list! I live in Alabama so we're kind of new to this whole good beer thing...!
    I'd really like to get some Great Lakes "Edmund Fitzgerald" but can't justify driving 450 miles round trip for a six pack!!!
  28. docnose

    docnose Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Alabama

    Adding to my list!
  29. nolabrew

    nolabrew Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2010 Louisiana

    Yup. I'm amazed they're not more popular here. They're complex and very refreshing.
    djsmith1174 likes this.
  30. weltywm

    weltywm Disciple (362) Jul 27, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Wheat wines. Only ever seen one or two.
    ThickNStout and hardy008 like this.
  31. jbertsch

    jbertsch Meyvn (1,090) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts

    I feel like I can't find enough of them..

    Indirectly agree, in that I wish there were fewer bullshit saisons. Seems like the "in" style for American brewers of the past couple years. Just based on perception in N.E. area at least...
  32. HevvyMetalHippie

    HevvyMetalHippie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

  33. patto1ro

    patto1ro Defender (625) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands

    KK, Broyhan, 160/-, Boys Bitter, AK, Mumme, Danziger Joppenbier, XXXX, to name a few.
  34. TheBrewo

    TheBrewo Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2010 New York

    mecummins, jlenik and superspak like this.
  35. mellowmark

    mellowmark Aspirant (263) Mar 31, 2010 Minnesota
    Beer Trader

    Professor Fritz Briem 1809 Berliner Weisse ftw!
    Immortale25 likes this.
  36. bubseymour

    bubseymour Poo-Bah (2,032) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
    Beer Trader

    I'd like to see less American Pale Ales and American IPAs being offered and some downsizing to occer by brewers. Several I love, but just too many saturating the market in US and honestly I don't think the flavor profiles of these 2 styles really are the easiest on the pallet for the masses and other styles would sell better if more readily available and easy to gain access. Agree with most, need more English and German styles to be attempted by American craft makers.
  37. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,035) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
    Supporter Beer Trader

    Attempt not. Do, or do not! There is no attempt.

    The last thing we need are more lame attempts at these styles along the lines of what we usually get from domestic 'O'fests'.
  38. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Crusader (772) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey
    Beer Trader

    Any lager except AAL
  39. taez555

    taez555 Poo-Bah (1,588) Dec 9, 2002 Massachusetts

  40. dar482

    dar482 Poo-Bah (3,476) Mar 9, 2007 New York
    Beer Trader

    I have yet to have a proper American version of a German kolsch or Czech pilsner. Hopheads don't really seem to care for them, but I just love their crisp drinkability. They have a refreshing pop and just the perfect beer for summer meals sitting outdoors.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  • About Us

    Founded in Boston in 1996, BeerAdvocate (BA) is your go-to resource for beer powered by an independent community of enthusiasts and professionals dedicated to supporting and promoting better beer.

    Learn More
  • Our Community

    Comprised of consumers and industry professionals, many of whom started as members of this site, our community is one of the oldest, largest, and most respected beer communities online.
  • Our Events

    Since 2003 we've hosted over 60 world-class beer festivals to bring awareness to independent brewers and educate attendees.
  • Our Magazine

    Support uncompromising beer advocacy and award-winning, independent journalism with a print subscription to BeerAdvocate magazine.