ups vs. fed ex

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by MPLSbrewer, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. MPLSbrewer

    MPLSbrewer Aspirant (202) Dec 7, 2010 Minnesota
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    hey guys,
    What is your opinion on the better(cheaper)company?
    I have always gone with fedex to ship beer basically for convenience, but i'm reconsidering because it seems like in the past few weeks the shipping prices have been going through the roof (25 bucks last night to send 3 4packs to cali). Is UPS better?
    also Im shipping from Minneapolis
  2. dumpman

    dumpman Aspirant (203) Feb 6, 2010 Rhode Island

    ups and fedex shipping rates increased by approx 5% recently, but i used fedex to ship three 6paks and a bomber from new england to illinois recently and they charged me 24.50.
  3. will1256

    will1256 Disciple (366) Dec 4, 2010 Minnesota
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    In my experience, UPS tends to be a little nosier about the content of the package...
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  4. nickapalooza86

    nickapalooza86 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2010 Wisconsin

    Fed Ex is plenty nosy them selves.... Shipped a box yesterday, and she said "Its sloshing, what exactly is in here?" Of course I gotta get that Olive Oil out!
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  5. stealth

    stealth Defender (606) Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota
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    Never had a damaged package with UPS, multiples with Fedex.
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  6. Cyclone8

    Cyclone8 Devotee (415) Oct 19, 2011 Minnesota
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    My experience has been exactly the opposite - 3 broken/destroyed packages with UPS in the past year, NONE with FedEx. I think my UPS guys deliberately try to break them if they feel there might be beer inside - and no, I'm not being paranoid:) I have literally seen the UPS delivery guy slam them onto my front steps at an angle, trying to bust them open. I will only use FedEx.
  7. minnesotaryan

    minnesotaryan Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 Minnesota

    I work in shipping and UPS has proven to be brutal with the way they handle packages. Also had them misdeliver a computer I ordered and left it on the neighbors door, even though it required a signature.
  8. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (3,039) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    Both have there ups and downs probably a draw i do think tracking is better for Fed-Ex from their site,whichever you choose you should open up an account with them it makes the whole process better
  9. MPLSbrewer

    MPLSbrewer Aspirant (202) Dec 7, 2010 Minnesota
    Beer Trader

    Thanks everyone, I think by the sounds of it I will stick to fed ex!
  10. morimech

    morimech Poo-Bah (2,774) Nov 6, 2006 Minnesota

    No difference with either company. It is Russian Roulette with either of them. Your number was up with Fedex. We deal with somewhat fragile, and contraband merchandise, so our risks are higher.
  11. tgchief

    tgchief Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2010 Iowa

    Go brown. Never a late yeast delivery! EVER!
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  12. GFG

    GFG Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2012 North Dakota

    Just curious because I have yet to ship beer to someone. How do you guys package it to ensure it's as safe as it can be?
  13. MPLSbrewer

    MPLSbrewer Aspirant (202) Dec 7, 2010 Minnesota
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    Wrap it better than a newborn baby in 30 below weather. put it in some sort of sealed plastic so if anything breaks it doesn't leak out, then just make sure the box is packed tight so nothing can move around.
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  14. miketd

    miketd Zealot (516) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio
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    I've had better luck with Fedex and they are a little cheaper, but he main reason I use fedex is they deliver faster and a person on the other coast can have a box in the same week I send... that is not the case with UPS. One negative for Fedex is they screwed up their website and it's a PITA now.
  15. jaIsPoAn

    jaIsPoAn Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2012 New York

    The price drops depending on the size of the box
  16. sleuthdog

    sleuthdog Devotee (429) Oct 21, 2008 Illinois
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  17. woosterbill

    woosterbill Poo-Bah (2,591) Apr 6, 2009 Kentucky
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    I started out with UPS, and have since switched to FedEx because it's significantly cheaper. It also seems about a day faster, with better tracking, so I've been extremely happy with the change.

    My only broken package was with UPS, but since they gave me a refund and reimbursement for the destroyed "collectible glassware," I couldn't really complain. In general I think both companies do pretty solid work, but shipping fragile cargo is always going to be a crapshoot.
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  18. GFG

    GFG Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2012 North Dakota

  19. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    FedEx and UPS both lose packages, break packages, mishandle shipments, screw you, and everything else.

    Anyone who thinks one is better than the other hasn't been shipping long enough and has too small a sample size.
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  20. founder26

    founder26 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2009 Michigan

    exactly, working for ups I cannot say that ups never mishandles packages, it happens, its gonna happen no matter where you ship. however, I can tell you guys that at our sort building, we have strict policies against throwing packages, most of the time packages get damaged is not because of the employees, but because of the equipment used in the buildings, and how the customers package their boxes, thats a huge part of it.
  21. jklinck

    jklinck Initiate (191) Jul 23, 2007 Washington

    If you really think they're doing it on purpose then get them on video, post it on youtube and send it to your local news. Payback is a bitch.
  22. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (719) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Fedex is a bit faster and cheaper, and also delivers home on Saturdays, which generally guarantees coast-to-coast delivery without sitting around for a weekend. As for the actual service of successfully delivering a box in good shape, I don't think there is a bit of a difference. Based on the boxes I've gotten, I'd say about 90% of beer traders use Fedex.
    Ultimately I think the only great reason to use UPS is that their drop off is more convenient for you than Fedex, or you've had issues with your local Fedex.
  23. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,090) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Exactly why I use UPS despite it being more costly. The only problems I have ever had with breakage were three horribly mangled packages done by FedEx. Never a prob. with UPS in 100+ boxes sent. Plus convenient drop off.
  24. mhenson42

    mhenson42 Zealot (534) Nov 20, 2011 Texas
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    If you are getting broken bottles, I would bet that the problem lies more in the way it was packed rather than UPS or FedEx - short of them driving over your box. You should pack your boxes with the expectation that they will be tossed around/dropped from 10 feet or otherwise mistreated. Do that, an you won't have any problems.
  25. JeepCop

    JeepCop Initiate (103) May 16, 2010 Kansas
    Beer Trader

    Generally my thoughts as well. Although, I've never used anything other that the FedEx pick-up option, so I avoid the last part.
  26. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (11,900) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Back when I was trading, I created an online account for both companies to see which would be cheaper. FedEx was the way to go for me.
  27. beerinmaine

    beerinmaine Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2009 Maine

    I had a good objective comparison not long ago: 4 boxes from myself (on vacation in Portland OR) to myself in Portland ME

    2 via UPS, 2 via Fedex. All 4 the same size and within a pound in weight.

    Fedex was cheaper.

    Fedex arrived in 5 days, UPS in 7.

    One UPS box was pretty badly bashed up, none of the Fedex were.

    I shipped from various UPS and Fedex locations and none was particularly nosy about contents. More a question of who was working and whether they were bored or rushed.

    If you open an online account and do all your shipping labels from home, then drop off prepaid packages, nobody will ask anything.
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  28. turfy

    turfy Aspirant (225) Mar 17, 2010 Texas
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    I prefer Fedex. Everytime someone has shipped to me using UPS it is listed as taking 1-2 days longer than what Fedex would have taken, plus they inevitably change the arrival date to one day later, so 2-3 days longer to deliver than Fedex.
  29. WickedGoodBBQ

    WickedGoodBBQ Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Any reason USPS is not part of the discussion? I've sent many boxes via USPS without issue (yet?). The flat rate priority boxes for small trades are particularly nice.
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  30. marcgo2

    marcgo2 Initiate (71) Nov 16, 2010 Illinois
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    I prefer FedEx for the Saturday ground delivery.
  31. seplo

    seplo Disciple (376) Sep 8, 2009 Connecticut
    Beer Trader

    +1 for FedEx
  32. Rizalini

    Rizalini Zealot (537) Jan 20, 2011 Nevada
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    The best response to that is vintage coca-cola bottles.

    For some reason they classify beer as "a flamable liquid" which is a joke. So, vintage Coke bottles it is.
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  33. Rizalini

    Rizalini Zealot (537) Jan 20, 2011 Nevada
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    Totally agree! The medium flat rate boxes can accommodate 4 bombers & a 12 oz for $11!
  34. jloomis

    jloomis Disciple (312) Jan 6, 2010 Florida
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    Because it is a federal offense to use the Postal Service to ship any alcoholic beverages.
  35. Romulux

    Romulux Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2008 Michigan

    So much this! Don't really understand the love for one or the other, I have had issues with both. The fact that I have a UPS Store less than a mile from my house and the guy knows me know, make it a no brainer.

    I print labels at home and just plop the boxes on the counter and say "see ya". I asked him one day if he gets any money for print at home/drop offs and he told they get a dollar per box. He never asks any questions and I am in and out in ten seconds. So, he makes a couple hundred dollars from me a year for doing little to nothing. I appreciate the no stress, of it. Packing boxes is already a big enough pain in the ass.
  36. ShanePB

    ShanePB Poo-Bah (1,625) Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    FedEx for me.
  37. mrbubbler

    mrbubbler Initiate (0) Jun 16, 2008 California

    Anyone noticing that fedex has been reweighing every box? They have adjusted the price of every box i have shipped in 2013.. I usually only try to downplay the weight by 5 pounds, to avoid the huge penalties. Usually i got away with this about 90% of the time. So far i am 12/12 with them changing the weights.
  38. kmello69

    kmello69 Defender (618) Nov 27, 2011 Texas
    Beer Trader

    Yup. I put 11 lbs on a box yesterday, because I thought that was about right, and when I checked today it had been changed to 12.5 No biggie, but I noticed.
  39. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2008 California

    To their credit, it does go both ways. I just shipped a box listed at 12 lbs. They adjusted it to 10.4 lbs.
  40. founder26

    founder26 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2009 Michigan

    Yah that guy is bsing you, they are payed hourly they dont get any money from boxes being dropped off.
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