Using Drizly? Tip cash

You know you've failed at business when you pocket tips from your employees. Owners/supervisors/managers let's do better

 

Anytime there is a situation where business owners can pocket employee tips, I just assume they do, and always give cash to the person I want to receive the tip. Good advice, @mynie

 

Thats fucking weak. Wondering if there is a law here that you should turn these fuckers in.

Did you use a CC? I would dispute that charge.

Enjoy

 

That shit pisses me off. i always try to tip in cash for just that reason, but deep down inside I like to assume a just a cynical bastard. I hate being shown that I was actually right.

 

Delivery services like this used to be great in their respective heydays but now they've found so many new ways to loophole, cut corners, and screw everyone in the process from store to driver to user, that it's almost not even worth using. (I worked for postmates for 3 years).

 

The job titles I mentioned should be making a good/reasonable salary. Even if they are putting the tips back into the business and not directly pocketing them it's just a poor short sighted business decision

 

guessing not but is that avatar real?

enjoy

 

I don't mind telling you or anyone at all. Postmates used go out of their way to establish themselves in the market with great margins for employees, wonderful customer service for both the customers and drivers who ran into issues, and actually had local offices to go to if you had issues. Gradually they did away with the customer service options for both customers and drivers outside of having to resort blasting them on social media to get an adequate response. If a driver runs into an issue they have to simply cancel the order instead of having any options to resolve it. they did away with all of these things to cut costs but they raised the percentage that vendors pay to use the service and lowered the rate drivers get paid for their mileage and time between getting the order and getting it to the customer (they used to pay an incremental rate for this on top of the base pay which was $4.10 per order). The rates are going up and the drivers are getting paid less for the delivery outside of the base rate and possible tips. Drivers used to be able to see their ratings and would know if they were slipping in performance and could adjust, now only postmates HQ can see it and can just kick you off working for them whenever they feel like it. I'm not personally sure of how the other services work because I never worked for them but I have friends that do. A lot of them are heading in a similar direction it would seem.

 

Domino's got hit with a suit over this shit?

https://www.daytondailynews.com/bus...s-win-850k-settlement/62YLxxKEFrQZXJoSVetLVJ/

Drizly needs to know about this.

Also, @mynie , R. Budd Dwyer, a manila envelope and a 357. I saw it live on TV. They did not have him on 7 second
delay. They probably should have. That avatar is some truly dark humor.

 

With more and more rules/laws being relaxed allowing many breweries to ship and deliver their own beer on a local level, hopefully the need for Drizzly type services will be reduced. I try to avoid DoorDash, Grubhub, Postmates, Seamless, etc for similar reasons and more. These services are all shady.

 

I don't use apps or internet shopping (Uber, Grubhub, Amazon, etc.), except for travel (airlines, hotels and car rentals). It enriches Silicon Valley, enslaves / bankrupts the rest of us. Looks like local businesses using these platforms are stealing from their employees as well, likely justifying to themselves they are offsetting platform fees or some other self-serving explanation which does not hold water. These are businesses to avoid.

Many honest / properly run local restaurants here are pushing back against these online platforms. Some restaurants have stated grubhub just started listing their business for delivery without even consulting them. WTF?

I have only used an online order once during the first month of shutdown (an order direct with Half Acre), everything else in person. I am fortunate there are plenty of alternatives throughout the city not requiring the use of these online platforms. All my tips have been cash for businesses still accepting cash (some aren't at this point due to the virus which I understand).

 

I thought that was the whole appeal of apps like that? They can deliver you food from restaurants that don't deliver right? I always assumed they just call in your order for carry out after you place it and then go pick it up and bring it for a fee (which the consumer pays right?)

 

I see restaurants with signs from these various food delivery app companies, but never used any of these services.

Grubhub is publishing online a local bar/restaurant's menu, company logo and company website images without the restaurant's approval. This restaurant has stated they have attempted several times to have grubhub remove their menu and company logos.

Here is a link to their Facebook post, which other local restaurants responding to stating the same thing happened to them:

https://www.facebook.com/thegaragechicago/photos/a.349572251748039/2813720101999896/?type=3&theater

Below is an article regarding Grubhub's "Supper for Support" scheme to exploit the pandemic:

https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/05/its-time-to-stop-using-grubhub-seamless-forever/

 

1- Is the OP sure that the delivery people aren't pulling the wool over his eyes? I mean, should the tip hit the moment they click delivered. And did they click delivered while talking to him at his house or after they go back to their car? Also, Drizly is processing the transactions on their site, right? So why would the tip money go to the business owners and not into the account of the Drizly delivery person? That just seems a bit far fetched to me since the delivery drivers don't work for the store, they work for Drizly.

2- I get tipping cash, but with the pandemic, let's stop circulating cash as much as possible and rely on technology until this thing blows over.

 

The store my brother works at uses a ton of online platforms like drizly seamless and GrubHub. They each take 15% to 30% of each transaction excluding the tip and forward the rest of the funds to the business including the tip. It is the businesses responsibility who are using the platforms to pass on tips to the employees who are performing the delivery. The online platforms aren't to blame

 

I always tip cash even in an expensive restaurant even if I know they pool tips.

 

Wow fuck those clowns. Serves me right for assuming there was.something benign going on. Of course the tech "solution" is worse than the problem. Guess I'll have to continue to go pick up my own take out like a peasant

 

Aha, that's another good reason for Drizly to know about it. They can analyze the facts, the delivery person's story versus the business owner's story and analyze who is fibbin'. Very nice point.



...And as for cash, here's a COVID-19 business idea...buy some of these and offer a cash sterilizing business for people to bring cash down and get it cleaned for a nominal fee.

https://www.amazon.com/Verilux-CleanWave-Portable-Sanitizing-Travel/dp/B00144I3ZU

 

Or, we could just switch over to these bad boys. After all, gold is antimicrobial right?

 

Yeah, I was wrong. I figured it was closer to an uber model, but looking at the Drizly site I can see Drizly going out of business soon as there really isn't a need for them once liquor stores start integrating there own third party delivery/pickup apps like local breweries have done recently if the store is supposed to provide the delivery labor....

From Drizly's website:
If you’re interested in becoming a delivery driver for Drizly, your experience will be closer to delivering for a restaurant than delivering for an on-demand food delivery app. Local retailers are responsible for fulfilling their own deliveries, so even when you’re driving for Drizly, you’ll actually be directly employed by a specific liquor store in your area.

Due to this, Drizly drivers may actually be part-time employees who don’t have as much flexibility in their schedules. If Drizly orders aren’t frequent in a given store, you may have duties outside of driving. Overall, the setup of the Drizly delivery driver job is up to each of the app’s retail partners, who also set their own delivery zones and hours of operations.

When you’re assigned to an order, you’ll be expected to complete the delivery within 60 minutes and verify that the customer is of legal drinking age upon delivery. As with all driving jobs, you are expected to never drink on the job, even if you’re handling alcohol throughout the day.

 

The were two models.
One (door dash?) was where you used the service to order from any restaurant that did takeout. You paid the service a surcharge & delivery fee, they ordered/paid/picked up/delivered.
The other (grub hub) was restricted to "member" restaurants. Pretty much the same setup except the restaurant paid the surcharge.
Now that these services are common everyone is using the second model because users usually only care about how much they pay and, in many markets, restaurants are captive because they can't afford their own delivery staff, but have to have at least one delivery option.

 

Nice find!

 

The places I order from only use their own employees to deliver the orders. If they are using grub hub ect. I'll pick the order my self.

 

I stopped using DoorDash when it was revealed that they kept any tips that weren't over the normal fee they paid the delivery driver. I will never tip on that app if I ever choose to use it again. Will have to scrounge for some cash.

I guess if Drizly ever comes to Wisconsin (alcohol delivery is illegal, I know, shocker that Wisconsin would have this illegal), I guess cash/loose change tip as well.

 

I'm going trick or treating at your house.

 

There are businesses in my my small city that DO NOT use grub hub, yet grub hub advertises those businesses as clients, and the businesses regularly get calls as to what is taking so Fucking long?

Uh, we never got an order? Then, eventually, a grub hub employee calls in the order under (presumably) their own name.

Huh.

Seems legit.

Fuck all those guys, even the local ones.

 

It's the silicon valley slight of hand.

I deliver for Amazon so my experience is only that but I've read Doordash and others do/did same thing. They implement something called variable base pay. 100% of the tip does go to the driver but then they will lower the base rate without telling you, so it's essentially tip stealing. Fortunately for me, Amazon has changed the policy in the past year and we get 100% of tip and base pay we were promised.

Here is what Amazon used to do. I choose to do a time slot from 6PM-8PM that says it will pay me $36+tips for 2 hours. Any normal person looks at that and thinks I'm making 18/hr plus whatever tips I get. When they gave me the route it's only 1 stop. The next day I get notice that I made $36 for that delivery. That leads you to believe the customer stiffed you. But in reality the customer gave $10 tip and Amazon lowered your base pay to $13/hr without telling you. So technically you got 100% of the tip.

Amazon used some algorithm based on number of stops/distance driven/total value of food to determine what the base pay would be. Sometimes you probably did get the full $18 but most of the time it wasn't. Unfortunately they never told you so I was always guessing whether it was customer or Amazon.

I'm sure other services still do this so just talk to a few different drivers and ask. If it seems like they do just tip in cash.

 

I just got a delivery, my third, from Drizly. I asked the driver point blank if he got the tips when tipped online, and he told me it is a separate line in his paycheck. The delivery is from one of the biggest liquor store chains in the state, and they seem to treat their employees well, so it doesn't surprise me the deliveryperson is being treated fairly. I imagine it might be a nice break from stocking shelves or counting inventory. It's not an uncommon pay scheme for commission/tipped employees to be guaranteed a base rate, but if the employee exceeds the base amount, the employee keeps whatever they made but don't get the base amount. I think Drizly lets you pick a store if there are multiple that deliver to your ZIP code.

TL;DR: Your best bet is to use a reputable store, and the corollary, don't do business with shady people.

 

I manage a large liquor store and we’ve recently added delivery for obvious reasons as it’s nearly 40% of our business - it’s thru a 3rd party with DoorDash and/or InstaCart. A driver came to me yesterday and accused me and us of taking his tips. I kept calm to his aggressive demeanor and explained we, the retailer, have no access to his tips and he should contact his company. He said they don’t care and wouldn’t help him. It’s sad. And yes, I’d recommend tipping in cash! Door Dash and InstaCart corporate are trash.

 

I don't understand how people are okay with all these take outs and food deliveries. Do you know who prepares that food for you and how? Do you know where they've been before coming to work? Do you know if they're being safe and take this pandemic seriously? Do they wear gloves? Do they sneeze or cough? Do they touch their face? What I'm trying to say is....Buy stuff and prepare it yourself! That's the only way to be sure it's safe!

 

If there's an angle and a crack, some slimy greedy dip shit will slide into theft mode. Good old greed, pure and simple. In the top seven sins in this week's poll..........

 

I'm not okay with the food deliveries. A few months before Covid-19 I was looking out a 2nd floor office window and watched a guy from one of those delivery services come out from the restaurant below put a bunch of those insulated bags in his car, open one of them, grab some fries, seal the bag back up and drive away. I was like...."yeah, I'll do carryout going forward".

 

Well, there's Federal Labor Standards Act.

Oh, that was my order: