Vanity Fair interview with Shaun Hill, Hill Farmstead

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  1. JustBill

    JustBill Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2010 Vermont

    I used to drive out to the Kingdom on a regular basis to get growler fills and score a few bottles. But now... oh man, I can't even go out there. It's just too much. I wish it wasn't like that.
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  2. franklinn

    franklinn Initiate (0) May 29, 2012 Vermont

    None of this needed clarification, it was already obvious :slight_smile:.
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  3. Rochefort10nh

    Rochefort10nh Champion (864) Sep 30, 2005 New Hampshire
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    Best reply yet.
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  4. blazegeneral

    blazegeneral Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    The problem is people drive 6 hours and expect a handjob. Bunch of stalker groupies. People call him a dbag but won't stop buying his beer for rare trades.
  5. Kinsman

    Kinsman Champion (873) Aug 26, 2009 California

    No too familiar with that Bob Dylan lyric but I like it, however, thats not the issue. As he said in the interview, it's "managing chaos all the time" and that certainly takes a lot out of you. Personally, I don't know Shaun well enough to say one way or another whether or not he is a great guy or just a selfish prick. What I did get from this interview though, was that he's gotten way more than he bargained for when he decided to open this brewery three years ago and the stress from that shows. I only sympathize with this because we've all seen how our society treats famous people... with little or no respect for personal boundaries (classic example being paparazzi and celebrities). My job plays into this simply because of the fame and history of the destination but I'm sure Shaun gets it worse.
  6. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Welcome to the real world: where running a business is hard work and the future is uncertain. I mean, in terms of starting a new business, I hope entrepreneurs really think through what could happen:

    It might be very successful, you may have no commute to work, and it might spawn legions of loyal customers while said business remains entirely debt free!

    The horror, the horror. . .
  7. Kinsman

    Kinsman Champion (873) Aug 26, 2009 California

    Maybe I'm just not reading your posts right, but I'm under the impression that you seem to think that when someone becomes successful at their work they have given up their right to be human and feel stress or anxiety from the job.
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  8. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    I mean the things I write and say, not the things you project and assume that I think.
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  9. Kinsman

    Kinsman Champion (873) Aug 26, 2009 California

    No projecting or assuming going on here. I read your posts and simply disagree with your take on him. No worries though, as long as the brewery keeps pumping out tasty beverages I don't really care what the brewer does or says.
  10. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Well if you read my first comment on the matter, you'd see we agree about what really matters (i.e. your last sentence).
  11. blazegeneral

    blazegeneral Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I don't think he cares what people in Nevada think.
  12. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Crusader (752) Mar 2, 2008 Oregon
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    What if they pledge allegiance to Hitler?

    /invokes Godwin's law for 50 points.
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  13. miketd

    miketd Zealot (524) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio
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    I don't think too many people care what Hill thinks... they just want to drink his beer.
  14. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Never said he did. Read for content or thanks for the unsolicited opinion. Cool story bro.
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  15. StylzMC

    StylzMC Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2012 Yukon (Canada)

    do the people complaining about how much of a dbag he sounds ever read a thread here?
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  16. Kinsman

    Kinsman Champion (873) Aug 26, 2009 California

    These multipage threads get me all the time. Totally glanced over that first post with this part:
    And thats just it. I've read other interviews with him and seen him on multiple occasions at the brewery but until I actually meet him, I'll withhold my judgement about what kind of guy he is. The beer is what really matters.
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  17. blazegeneral

    blazegeneral Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    He's A dbag and a bunch of dbags line up to buy his beer. Just the beer game today. A bunch of tears.
  18. Stormfield

    Stormfield Initiate (171) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    In order of importance:

    1. Jesus Christ
    2.Mahatma Ghandi
    3. Shaun "E." Hill

    Wait...did I screw up the order...?
  19. blazegeneral

    blazegeneral Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    But they line up obviously they care what he thinks. His mind brings the beer you drive 6 hours for.
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  20. miketd

    miketd Zealot (524) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio
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    Just because they like his beer doesn't mean they care what he thinks(outside of beer). Does Hill care what his patrons think? Doubtful; all money spends the same. And for what it's worth, I haven't, and wouldn't, drive 6 hours for his beer.
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  21. blazegeneral

    blazegeneral Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Damn don't brew good beer the people who seek it are retarded.
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  22. JoEBoBpr

    JoEBoBpr Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2004 Missouri

  23. hinemk76

    hinemk76 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Pennsylvania

    If he is that stressed, then just hire me. I will handle the business side, he can just stay in the back and brew the beer. One of you VT'ers who are tight with him should let him know I'm interested. Problem solved.
  24. hinemk76

    hinemk76 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Pennsylvania

    So why is he stressing out so much about it? Brew some beer, sell it. Pretty simple. You don't have to let the people come to your house.
  25. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Zealot (524) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont

    Shaun's house is close enough to the brewery that a stray hose and the right door being open could spray it with beer. People have knocked on his door at unimaginable hours when the brewery was closed, demanding beer. It could get old.

    I met Shaun a few years before HF opened. He just wanted to have a small brewery on the property his family has owned for 200+ years because he loves making good beer and wanted to make a living without moving away. Not to put words in his mouth, but he was likely blindsided by the popularity of HF. The original plan did not even include a tap room or bottle shop; this was just a carrot dangled before his nose by regulators during permit negotiations, and it sounded good (careful what you wish for). And he does have plans to expand the tasting room and move it out of the brewery proper... there was some resistance from neighbors worried about increased traffic - 1-2 vehicles per hour to hundreds in a 6 hour period was quite a jolt. My understanding is that he got the permits and there will be a separate building for visitors soon.
  26. smonice

    smonice Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2012 New Jersey

    I was up there about 3 week or so ago and it was a very weird experience. We got there at 1030 on a Thursday and no one was there. We saw Shaun moving pallets of bottles into the building and as we were walking around the car and taking some pics we offered to help with anything and he gave us a look and kind of ignored us and really looked like he was pissed with the world the whole time. Later as we waiting in line my brother was taking his beers out to the car and my brother said something to him about his beers and the great stuff he is doing and he actually said something about like he thought we were "assholes or something" (direct quote). I thought we were being nice.
  27. smonice

    smonice Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2012 New Jersey

    Oh and I will still drive the 6 hours to get his beer because its fuking fantastic and the staff inside were awesome!!
  28. smonice

    smonice Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2012 New Jersey

    I want to comment further on this because I think after I wrote it it came off the wrong way. Mr. Hill has a hell of a job to satisfy the masses with his beers and I am sure he actually gets quite a few assholes up there from time to time and everyone has bad days. Reading his interview everything clicked and I can't say that I wouldn't get there again early and offer to help.
  29. Stormfield

    Stormfield Initiate (171) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    Does he carry a cross over his shoulders too?

    Seriously though. He makes awesome beer. He is entitled to run his business any way he wants. But he also takes himself way too seriously.
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  30. StylzMC

    StylzMC Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2012 Yukon (Canada)

    wait... you were serious?
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  31. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,315) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    Reminds me of Franklin's BBQ in Austin. Crazy long line before they open, and they sell out with people still in line. Aaron Franklin has said they work for 22 hours making BBQ, and sell it all in 2 hours, then they do it over again.

    Better than not being busy is what I say.

    Edit - the food magazines have had similar interviews with Aaron Franklin, and have proclaimed it the best BBQ in the universe. I agree.
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  32. draheim

    draheim Poo-Bah (2,431) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    In about five years Shaun Hill is going to totally break all your hearts, quit brewing, and open a winery.
  33. PsilohsaiBiN

    PsilohsaiBiN Defender (614) Aug 10, 2010 New York
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    Shaun is an honest person who honestly answers questions about his famously obvious case of the bends that he is having trouble articulating/comprehending in the first place while simultaneously experiencing/dealing with it the best he can...and people call him a snob.

    Remember Shaun: "They hate if you're clever, and despise a fool."

    You can't win.
  34. hinemk76

    hinemk76 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Lay off the shrooms, and the HF kool-aid.
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  35. kbuzz

    kbuzz Champion (840) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina
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    Love this man's BBQ!

    EDIT: I know this has nothing to do with pretentious S. Hill's brewery or whatever this thread is rambling about, but I've just been obsessed with BBQ Pitmasters and got excited to see this name pop up...sorry everyone...

    Arbitrary bickering...resume! :grinning:
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  36. draheim

    draheim Poo-Bah (2,431) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I hope he isn't reading this thread. Combine the last couple pages of discourse with a little late-night Nietzsche or Kierkegaard, and all bets are off.
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  37. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (380) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Insight into Hill's sensibility can be gleaned from a close reading of Nietzsche's long essay, On the Genealogy of Customer Service (which was itself written to help clarify the themes in his earlier, frequently misunderstood Beyond Good and Bro-Dude).

    The interview suggested to me that Hill's a serious guy who approaches his work with a strong sense of vocation, and I can't imagine these qualities aren't closely connected to the reputedly outstanding quality of his brew.
  38. VonZipper

    VonZipper Disciple (399) Feb 9, 2011 New York
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    He's kind of the eccentric, out-there type. I'm agree though, he shouldn't have to throw on a hat and dance for the people buying beer in his driveway. He could be the biggest douche in the world, but in the end, the beer speaks for him.
    P.S. He looks like a balding/older Vinny Chase/Adrian Grenier.
  39. nc41

    nc41 Meyvn (1,492) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    He makes great beer, that's his passion, if he's happy why would anyone else care? Everyone bitches about the In Bev empire and here's the 180 on that, but guys are ripping him? I don't get it. Here's a guy in remote VT doing what he loves and he constantly hits Hr's with his brews, that kinda success could be a staggering weight. Guys want more than he could possibly brew, and the success is astounding, maybe overwhelming. I look forward to meeting him in May though.
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  40. stupac2

    stupac2 Zealot (518) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    He's reading this thread. He liked a post on page 4.

    Hi Shaun! You make great beer! I want it in mah bellah!
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