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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BT_Bobandy, Apr 25, 2013.
Put a gate up at the end of your driveway, Shaun. Problem solved.
Very apt analogy. I've been to both places and that's dead on. These guys are both artists and craftsmen. No compromises, even at the expense of profit or their convenience.
For the record, went up to HFS yesterday afternoon. My first time. No line whatsoever at 4:30, it was a beautiful thing. Made the expereience that much better. (Would have liked to have met Shaun though.) And for whatever reason, no crowds at the Waterbury bars later that night. A wonderful serene evening of tasting the best beers on the planet in relative peace and quiet with friends.
I think he liked my post on p4 too. I'm giggling like a schoolgirl! Never had a HF beer yet tho
totally off topic but brf having read this and your next post paragraph - I gotta ask . . what is it you do?
WTF, Shaun is doing it his way, good for him, good for us, good
I'm waiting for the impending completion of this sentence...
Just let the guy make his delicious, delicious beer.
Why he can't hire a friend or someone else who would want to run his retail shop is beyond me...I'm sure you he could pay someone in beer to cover the work he seemingly doesn't enjoy doing.
Keeping it smaller, keeps the control better. I quite enjoyed the couple things I have had from HF and would not want him getting too big. Places like Russian River have survived on top because of not being too big but big enough to meet most demand.
Lagunitas was much better when they were brewing less beers and was not shipping all over the place. Many of the beers have suffered through mass production.
I get what he's saying. It started off as a hobby, turned into a small operation, and then the internet spreads word and he's overrun. There are only two ways to go, and both of them aren't ideal for someone who just wanted a small, quiet operation in VT. You either let the onslaught happen or you scale up, make a bigger job out of it, and possibly compromise quality. Either way, the small quiet operation in VT is over.
I recently made the trip up to The Alchemist and realized HF was an hour away or so, but simultaneously saw that they were not open on Mondays. Oh well. Maybe next time. I get a lot of weekdays off, so maybe a day trip at some point on a Thursday or Friday.
This seems like a pretty simple fix- gate with a chain lock at the base of the road. No?
Nope, other people live on the road. There isn't a private road to the brewery, it is off a road shared by others.
Also I may be wrong but I think he doesn't like the lines because I think he feels bad that people have to wait in line for his beer.
If people wanting to meet me and shoot the shit were a feature of my typical workday I'd likely find another job.
Surely there's some point at which the road is only going to his place. I mean, he has to have a driveway, right?
Hah, wow, that idea definitely won't work then.
Well, there is this new invention called a "fence"...
Aww, that would be sad. Plus that whole area is all nice and open for the fests and camping.
I'm just saying, if it's a real problem concerning his privacy and people showing up at all hours, a fence with a gate might provide a solution. Maybe not ideal, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. I don't want a security system on my house, but being burglarized once was enough to change my mind.
I didn't know it was a huge problem he was having. Who shows up at a brewery at night saying give me beer, can't happen that often right? Not enough to lock the place down I guess.
No idea. I was just basing it on this post.
He comes across and looks like a Douche, but maybe I do as well!!
I just wish I could taste some of his beer to decide for myself on how good it is!!
"I wear my heart on my sleeve, and my heart is a douchebag"
I suspect it's people showing up too early in the day...
I'm sure these personal attacks will make Shaun much more receptive and eager to meet all the strangers that convene on his property.
Respect Beer. Respect Brewers.
Average BA: "Shaun, you're a douchebag, now give me your .rar walez bro."
I'm embarrassed at the amount of negativity in this thread, coming from so many folks who claim Shaun's a douchebag yet probably have never met him.
He's a unique guy with a unique vision to his craft who has done little-to-nothing personal to you. I think many of his comments are just plain honest, but too many people take them out of context from an editorial piece that probably has a bit of a spin on it (most editorial pieces do).
Agreed. Someone even said he "looks like a douche". I just don't get the nastiness.
To some people doing thing like quoting dead philosophers automatically makes you a douchebag. Those people can be safely ignored.
Not to mention his little slice of paradise owned by the family for centuries? I'm sure fests and camping rank a smidge below on his priority scale.
I too would tire of answering the same inevitable questions, putting on a PR face and being observed like a zoo animal day after day...all while taking pleasure in sharing my craft and appreciating the business people bring. Oh, the duplicity.
His beers are good. I am, most certainly, a fan.
This is why you should never talk to the media.
He just comes off as annoyed by his success and offended at the thought of expanding his brewery. I feel like he'd be happier making home brews for him and his friends and not having hoards of people on his property.
That is what I meant be the "aww that would be sad comment", to lock up all that paradise. Sounds like someone has made the trip up and knows what I'm talking about.
Great Interview! Insightful, informed beer related
journalism is almost impossible to find these days.
Excellent interview. Love the perspective. I feel like Flying Dog's co-opted Hunter S. Thompson quote works best for Shaun Hill and Hill Farmstead, "Too weird to live, and too rare to die." There is nothing wrong with not wanting to expand. I have not had any HF, but I feel like there are a lot of really good local breweries at his scale or smaller that make top-notch beers and have no plans to expand. I am not saying that they are on his level, but some people just want the "simple" life. Also, it gives you a reason to get out, travel and see VT, which has a few other good breweries. Although they are much smaller, I would compare him to the guys at Burley Oak. Such a great place and so close to Ocean City.
In the interview it seemed that he had to do it himself, was that info in the interview old/that problem no longer exists?