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Victory Helios Pricing Question

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by LeRose, Feb 12, 2013.

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  1. LeRose

    LeRose Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts

    The thread about Swing made me remember this...and I didn't want to hijack the other thread.

    Is Helios usually a bargain price? I have seen it in a couple of stores for $3.99 to $4.99 for a twenty two. Didn't pick it up because I figured it was marked down for quick sale. Seeing the positive comments in the other thread, maybe should fill up the truck?
  2. Thickfreakness

    Thickfreakness Oct 2, 2010 New York

  3. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Typically $3-$4. $5 is kind of high. It's meant to be a cheap bomber - like Harpoon IPA, or Sam Adams Boston Lager.
  4. JulianB

    JulianB Feb 1, 2012 South Carolina

    3.29 here.
  5. Providence

    Providence Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    $3.50 around our way and I think it's definitely worth it.
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  6. PatriotsRule

    PatriotsRule Sep 25, 2012 Massachusetts

    Its also $3.45 here and a steal at that price if you ask me!
  7. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Jun 9, 2006 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    Its a great saison and it really is a steal at $3.49 - $4. I think I've bought a case over the last year.
  8. LeRose

    LeRose Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts

    Thanks, folks. Will grab some next time I make the rounds. Like the style, have liked most things from Victory. Just strange o see amid the higher priced bombers.
  9. victory4me

    victory4me Oct 16, 2004 Pennsylvania

    Tremendous value. I love Helios and wouldn't think for a second about picking up my occasional bomber even if it were twice the price.
  10. MickJ0nes

    MickJ0nes Dec 10, 2012 Pennsylvania

    80% of my homebrew bombers once contained Helios. $2.99 here and the labels come off clean and easy.
  11. victory4me

    victory4me Oct 16, 2004 Pennsylvania

    Just be prepared, this is significantly funkier than your typical Saison, lots of barnyard and hay in this one that was totally unexpected the first time I had it.
  12. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    As someone who lives about 5 minutes from the Victory Brewery I'm ashamed to say I don't think I've EVER bought a bottle of Helios...though now that I think of it the growler in my photo is Helios. Solid beer and I'll often grab one on draft at the brewery but I guess I never really get their bomber bottles when access to it is so easy. I'm surprised it's so cheap.
  13. MickJ0nes

    MickJ0nes Dec 10, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I don't know if I would call it funky. I get mostly peppery yeast and citrus with a crisp finish.
  14. sixerofelixir

    sixerofelixir Oct 27, 2009 Ohio

    One of the best values in all of beerdom, imo. $2.99 + tax is what I pay.
  15. VitoFerrante

    VitoFerrante Sep 11, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Drain pour. And I love their beers. You get what you pay for. Sorry.
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  16. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Do you not like saisons? Obviously not everybody loves every beer, but a drain pour? It's just not an offensive enough beer to justify that kind of label... perhaps you had a bad bottle...
  17. VitoFerrante

    VitoFerrante Sep 11, 2012 Pennsylvania

    You could be right. I love Hennepin. I love the style and I love Victory.
  18. blivingston1985

    blivingston1985 Jan 7, 2010 North Carolina

    Always a steal. Grab it if you see it.
  19. Blanco

    Blanco Oct 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    Best bargain for a bomber I've seen.
  20. DrDemento456

    DrDemento456 May 15, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I was underwhelmed by it as well, really noticeable ABV and not enough hops to balance the taste. I also find Prima Pils disgusting as well. That being said I have a "red thunder" bomber I can't wait to try and enjoy a "Hop Wallop" on an occasion.

    When I could find "Baltic Thunder" it was a best buy at around 5 bucks a bomber.
  21. Starkbier

    Starkbier Sep 19, 2002 Maryland

    Yep, there is a lot of Brett in the bottle conditioning process. Amped up "Orval" finish.
  22. loganwat

    loganwat May 28, 2007 North Carolina

    It tastes like soap. Love Victory, but not this one.
  23. southdenverhoo

    southdenverhoo Aug 13, 2004 Colorado

    just another datapoint and a question: In Colorado (obviously some shipping cost from PA) this was running $3.99 at places like Argonaut but as of a few weeks ago it's been $4.49.

    Still a bargain IMO for a well made saison w/ brett (apples and oranges comparisons, maybe, but Crooked Stave's 375 ml bottles of a brett and wild yeast saison are like 5.99 I believe; Funkwerks 750s are 9.99 to 11.99 generally) but wondering if the price change reflects a change from the brewery, or whether it's the distributor or the retailers who are marking this up more than before?
  24. ShanePB

    ShanePB Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    There is no live brett in the Helios bottling process anymore.
  25. victory4me

    victory4me Oct 16, 2004 Pennsylvania

    While no live Bret, it is still a funky yeast strain IMO. Had a fresh bottle a couple weeks ago and was astounded by how funky it was. Great beer.
  26. coreyfmcdonald

    coreyfmcdonald Nov 13, 2008 Georgia
    Beer Trader

    This is the first I've heard of this. I haven't had a bottle in probably a year, though. Do you know when they stopped adding brett? I assume if there is no live brett in the bottle that there is no brett in the brewing process, correct? I know many people have mentioned the draft version does not contain brett, but I've never seen it on draft anywhere.
  27. ShanePB

    ShanePB Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    I believe it's "funked" in the tank (whether that's brett or their yeast strain) and then filtered when bottled. They stopped doing the "live" brett in the bottles due to the explosions/recall. This was maybe 2010 or 2011.
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  28. ShanePB

    ShanePB Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    Agreed. I was just correcting Starkbier's statement.
  29. coreyfmcdonald

    coreyfmcdonald Nov 13, 2008 Georgia
    Beer Trader

    Interesting - thanks for the info. I do remember the beer being extremely highly carbonated.
  30. tronto

    tronto Dec 22, 2010 Kentucky
    Beer Trader

    It's a solid saison regardless of price, but yeah it's good.
  31. RobertColianni

    RobertColianni Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I completely agree and, similarly, I love Victory and appreciate Saisons. They're basically a zesty mead. Sort of a shame. Either way, at the price, Helios is a bargain. Same neutral price everywhere, it seems. I used to work two minutes from the brewery and we sold it for $3.50.
  32. ghostly

    ghostly Mar 7, 2011 New York

    I'm pretty sure I've seen it for $5.99 in NYC, but our pricing is out of whack.
  33. Starkbier

    Starkbier Sep 19, 2002 Maryland

    Right, its tank conditioned now prior to filtering and then normal bottle conditioning. This is due to capped 22's limits in pressure to about 7g/L.
  34. BoneyardBrewer

    BoneyardBrewer Apr 24, 2005 Michigan

  35. fuzzylogic

    fuzzylogic Nov 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Love some Helios - especially for the price. Rumor has it that Victory may be introducing another saison later this year in 6 packs. Looking forward to that if it comes to fruition...
  36. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Jan 11, 2013 New York

    That is no rumor, it comes out in 2 weeks. I'm pumped for that
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