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Vlad the Imp Aler "2009 vs 2011"

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by GRG1313, Mar 17, 2013.

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  1. GRG1313

    GRG1313 Poo-Bah (3,471) Jan 15, 2009 California
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    I just opened a Vlad 2009 and compared it with the bottling that is currently for sale. I was surprised, to say the least. Vlad was poured at the 2009 GABF and it was among my top 3 beers tasted; I loved it and couldn't stop talking about it. I was able to snag a few bottles, a few of which stayed in the cellar for future fun and curiosity.

    I recently got several of the newly released bottles and which are marked 2011 (but I don't think released until the end of 2012...I may be wrong on this but the bottles are those that are currently being sold by Cascade).

    So, let's compare! After all, what's the purpose of aging if we can't see the difference and then get all up in each other's face and discuss which one is better and why!

    First issue is that my palate may have changed a bit the last few years. The flavor profile is very sweet and full of apples and apple vinegar. For me, the sweetness is almost overwhelming and not the "5" score I originally gave it years ago (although probably only recently posted in the "hads.") I confess I went back and lowered my score, relative only to the fact that perhaps my taste has changed, not the quality of the beer which is excellent. I still liked it, the new one, just not quite as much.

    So, I then compared 2009 to 2011 (2013 bottles for sale) Big problem! They both tasted the same. No kidding; had I not known specifically which one I had poured into which glass (one a Duval the other a Cheekey Monk) I'd never have know which was which. I want to say the newer one was a hint brighter; but, truth be known, I think that may only be the conclusion since I new it was younger. I truly think that they taste exactly the same.

    Anyone else have the same (or opposite) experience?

    (I'm now pulling The Vine to see if the same thing will be true!)
  2. LambicKing

    LambicKing Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Germany

    Agreed. I opened a Vladimir tonight and was disappointed. I haven't had the 09 but was expecting more sour and less sweet. I drank it alone and it became a chore to finish. Not cloyingly sweet but not outstanding. Gave it a 4 for being good for what it is.

    At least it's better than the latest The Vine. Had that last week. Meh.
  3. allouez86

    allouez86 Initiate (197) Jan 24, 2009 Wisconsin

    Visited Portland in January and absolutely loved everything I had at Cascade, including Vlad. If I had more luggage space I'd have bought a bottle of everything they had for sale but only brought back a 2011 The Vine. Crossing my fingers it's better than "meh" when I open it in the fall.

    Ninja Edit: Let us know how The Vine is OP
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