What are the best online stores to buy English Ale to Ship to US?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Warwick7, Dec 4, 2019 at 12:59 AM.

  1. Warwick7

    Warwick7 Initiate (72) May 25, 2019 Maryland

    I am moving to a state where the English Ale options are even less and TW said it wouldnt ship. Are there any online stores that ship to the US? I tried a few and they didnt.
     
  2. Warwick7

    Warwick7 Initiate (72) May 25, 2019 Maryland

    Would going through a distributor work?
     
  3. rozzom

    rozzom Champion (852) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    What state and where in it are you moving to? Maybe someone local will have some ideas.

    Unfortunately British imports (aside from US-style stuff like cloudwater, but I’m assuming you mean the more OG type stuff) are so off-trend that I doubt you’ll get much of a response. People ordering classic UK styles from abroad are going to be part of a hyper niche.

    I just googled “Timothy Taylor landlord buy in USA” and found a few places that at a glance would ship within the US. I’m sure you’ll find some options.
     
  4. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (1,882) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Sure, how many pallets do you need?:grin:

    In most states distributors can only sell to in-state licensed retailers but even in other states, a wholesale distributor can only sell the beers they are contracted to sell - so if a particular English ale is not available in your region, that means no local distributor carries it. (Also note that distributors get their imported brands from US federally-licensed importers, not from the breweries directly).

    @Bitterbill is the expert on US retailers who ship out-of-state, where legal - (altho' that's a kinda grey area). Don't know if he knows of a UK-based shipper.
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,251) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    As JK posted above: “Also note that distributors get their imported brands from US federally-licensed importers, not from the breweries directly.”

    For example, Samuel Smith beer is imported by Merchant du Vin:

    https://merchantduvin.com/brew-samuel-smith-salute.php

    You could contact the importer, let them know what your purchasing interests are and where you are located: ask if there are retailers where you could purchase beers.

    Cheers!
     
  6. tzieser

    tzieser Meyvn (1,094) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Yeah, exactly this. I had a hard time tracking down Schlenkerla mini-kegs a while back and reaching out to the importer directly (I think it was B. United) helped me get pointed in the right direction.
     
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  7. Warwick7

    Warwick7 Initiate (72) May 25, 2019 Maryland

    Hey Ill say more when im free. I live in Maryland and moving to Washington State. thinking in a year. I wpuld like to know for both states

    Cheers
     
  8. Warwick7

    Warwick7 Initiate (72) May 25, 2019 Maryland

    and yes I mean the The OG stuff
     
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  9. KS_Augsburg

    KS_Augsburg Initiate (186) Jul 29, 2018 Illinois
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    Interestingly, several importers I contacted in the past had almost zero interest to share places where a particular beer is stocked - they did not share which retailers have the most turnover, stock a particular style of beer, etc. It is either they have zero interest (possible), or they do not want to favor one retailer over another - and recommend none (also possible).
     
  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (1,882) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Or they just don't collect or maintain (or share) that sort of information from their local wholesale distributors, since in the vast majority of cases* they also work through the same Three Tier System that most brewers do - in their case, it's Importer>Wholesaler Distributor>Retailer.

    Some large, well-known importers' "Beer Finder" links:

    https://www.totalbeveragesolution.com/product-finder/
    https://stkillian.com/beers/product-finder/
    https://merchantduvin.com/find-our-beer.php
    http://www.unitedstatesbeverage.com/brand-finder/
    http://paulanerhpusa.com/ (also Fuller's, Hacker-Pschorr, and Fürstenberg)
    https://www.specialtybeer.com/beer-locator/

    Others just list their local wholesalers:
    https://www.gviimports.com/distributors


    * Some do have local state wholesale licenses.
     
    #10 jesskidden, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:36 PM
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  11. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (6,913) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    With many of the stores that I listed stopping shipping, changing URLs, etc, I would have been able to help a few years ago. All that I can recommend is to try buying from a store in California. They seem to be the least vulnerable to ceasing deliveries.

    http://onlinebeerstores.homestead.com/

    Hope that helps the OP some.

    I forgot to add that I don't know of a UK based store that ships to the US. Ales By Mail used to but I have read that they are closed.
     
    #11 Bitterbill, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:01 AM
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  12. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,606) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Half Time Beverage in New York State has a good but not great selection of English beers, and they ship to Wa.
     
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  13. Warwick7

    Warwick7 Initiate (72) May 25, 2019 Maryland

    Thanks, they didnt have a lot. But they did have 312 Wheat Ale, which is great. I waa hoping to fond that in WA
     
  14. Ranbot

    Ranbot Champion (891) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I suspect that Goose Island/AB-InBev distributes 312 Wheat everywhere in the US now, and if not there must be a similar local alternative.
     
  15. officerbill

    officerbill Disciple (393) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    I've contacted four different importers trying to locate their products. One never responded (Merchant du Vin), the other three simply asked for my city then put me in touch with their local distributor.
     
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  16. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Crusader (708) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Find a good contract brewer, show them some examples of what you want to replicate, and then you'll have plenty of beer for yourself and a new hobby as a self distributor....
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,251) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And did those local wholesale distributors help you?

    Cheers!
     
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  18. Warwick7

    Warwick7 Initiate (72) May 25, 2019 Maryland

    Not at Total Wine they didnt, maybe some other stores do.
     
  19. Warwick7

    Warwick7 Initiate (72) May 25, 2019 Maryland

    I never thought of that, i assume it would be a small brewery?
     
  20. Ranbot

    Ranbot Champion (891) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Ok.
    Still, I would be shocked if you couldn't find a reasonable substitute and spare yourself the shipping costs. American Wheats are relatively easy find, tend to have similar flavor profiles, and while I agree that 312 Wheat is good, it's also pretty typical for the style. Here's a good place to look to find alternatives: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/styles/93/ I would save shipping costs for the unique and hard to find English beer styles, but that's just me... Do what makes you happy. Cheers!
     
  21. beerwego

    beerwego Initiate (12) Thursday

    We get Timothy Taylor Landlord in Long Island now. It's a bit expensive, but it is the very best English ale available for bottle purchase right now (for me). Anyone who has been to England knows this is a beauty on cask.

    I miss Tetley's draught widget cans. Those were enjoyable.

    With Samuel Smith Taddy Porter and Landlord, I'm pretty well covered. I don't expect better things to come. English ales are dead in America. We now prefer grossly over-priced soft serve cream machine IPAs.
     
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  22. SudsDoctor

    SudsDoctor Zealot (583) Nov 23, 2008 New York
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    Is this in bottles, or cask only? A search on BeerMenus and Untappd turns up nothing for Landlord in either format on Long Island, and that's within 50 miles of my ZIP code (western Suffolk).
     
  23. officerbill

    officerbill Disciple (393) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    A split on that.
    B. United & Specialty use the same distributor, T.J. Sheehan; they responded quickly and helpfully. Shelton Bros. passed me along to Remarkable Liquids (Mahr's distributor) but I never heard back from them.
     
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  24. DrOfGolf

    DrOfGolf Initiate (39) Jun 11, 2019 Florida

    I totally agree with you. I really do miss Tetley's ... a lot. :confused:
     
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  25. rozzom

    rozzom Champion (852) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    looks like (s)he said bottles. I know you don’t like going out of your way for beer, but Grand Delancey (just opened) has two casks. They had Fyne Ales Jarl when I went. Absolutely awesome and almost as good as the last pint I had in Scotland
     
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  26. beerwego

    beerwego Initiate (12) Thursday

    Bottle only. They don't ship cask from UK to USA (no brewery does as far as I know)

    Beverage Barn in Garden City Park carries it and they have it right now. At least a dozen large bottles on the shelf. 6.99 per (yikes, but a nice treat from time to time)
     
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  27. SudsDoctor

    SudsDoctor Zealot (583) Nov 23, 2008 New York
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    Thanks. Any idea how old those bottles might be? Not that it matters, as I've got no reason to be anywhere near GCP in the foreseeable future. It's way too far to go for just one beer.
     
  28. beerwego

    beerwego Initiate (12) Thursday

    Nope, but they taste very good
     
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  29. rozzom

    rozzom Champion (852) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    they do. check out my post about Jarl / grand delancey above
     
  30. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Savant (963) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    Sounds like an expensive proposition.

    If I were moving to Washington and liked English beer, I’d be making plans to visit this place. Their stuff was a big hit at a local cask festival.

    https://www.machinehousebrewery.com/?age-verified=483538a242

    I’m guessing there are likely a bunch of other local breweries making good English style beer in Washington too. No need to seek out what will likely be older cans and bottles by mail.
     
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  31. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (1,882) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    It's a Shelton Brothers import - https://www.sheltonbrothers.com/breweries/timothy-taylor/
     
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  32. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (1,882) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    That's not how beer distribution works. As @Ranbot says, as a beer owned and distributed via the huge, national AB network, it is likely available on the wholesale level everywhere. That does not mean that every retailer will stock it, but if Bud Light's on their shelves, they can order it or any other AB brand.
    Check with the local AB wholesale house.
     
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