What are the most remote breweries?

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  1. barrybeerdog

    barrybeerdog Initiate (132) Aug 17, 2012 South Dakota

    Nice thread idea!
    Oxbow seemed to be quite a journey from Portland, but well worth the trek!!
     
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  2. LeRose

    LeRose Meyvn (1,427) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I think "isolated" might be the better word to describe Hill Farmstead given the reasonable proximity to major metro areas? As they say, "ya can't get there from here", but it's just a truly rural location that's a bit tricky to get to. There is the "mecca" factor - this is a place people will/do drive to from anywhere, which seems to take them out of this discussion, IMHO. They aren't reliant upon the resident Greensboro Bend, VT population of 230-ish people, which is what I think you might be getting at based on our chat in the other thread.

    Good idea for a thread. Be interesting to see where it heads.
     
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  3. Ranbot

    Ranbot Champion (892) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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  4. orcrist_cleaver

    orcrist_cleaver Meyvn (1,341) May 3, 2014 New York
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    This thread needs an algorithm for remoteness that works in the same idiosyncratic vein as does the the esoteric rating system for beer. Let me make couple proposals:

    (1) Solve for Isolation. Sliding scale based on distance to nearby metropolitan centers. Value given based on both distance and size.

    (2) Isolate for Remoteness. Population clusters within the radius of distance to given metropolitan centers.
    (2a) Divide by area to get population density.
    (2b) Control for variable by equalizing with number of breweries that exist in its population cluster.
    (2c) Eliminate bias by controlling for difference in quality.

    (3) Introduce second matrix variable of distance to fast food.
    (3a) There will be a sliding scale as well with McDonald's correlating to a smaller metro area.
    (3b) Repeat steps 2 thru 2c.
    (3c) Account for regionality of fast food chains.

    (4) Introduce other matrices for isolation and remoteness like wealth and banking institutions. Theme parks and number of cool roller coasters. Water parks and tall water slides.

    Maybe someone who took economic statistics class at Berkeley can help.

    For further research, I think we can explore questions of the interplay between communal loyalty and the encroachment of new brewing ventures. Will local commitment provide enough support for the original brewery even if the competition is better?

    In the end I want to advocate for some local brewers that I view as adequately geographically isolated, anecdotally speaking. Here are a few breweries that have both beer worth drinking and beer worth venturing for. Old Klaverack Brewery and Honey Hollow Brewing Co. in the rural midpoint halfway between Albany and NYC. Both make fine beer, and at both you literally feel like family because you're drinking in a shed sized brewery in their backyard. Not quite a backyard experience, more like Wrong Turn, but West Kill Brewing is down a dead end road in the Catskills I can imagine TH being like this before the hype monster transformed East Hill Rd into the BQE.
     
  5. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (7,433) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    We need to realize that remoteness is a state that's been relatively lost to us on planet Earth, especially in America, but even in places long thought to be vast expanses of wilderness like the Amazon, the Sahara, Siberia, etc.

    As far as the US, there are locations in Wyoming and Alaska that have some of the greatest spaces between them and our civilization and its well worn routes, but, we're getting to a point where there's light pollution and noise pollution everywhere (not to mention the more physically harmful varieties of pollution). Remote islands and archipelagos enjoy the perks of being the most remote inhabitable locations on Earth, but they also experience some of the most negative side effects as well, like sea rise, and accumulating tons of unsightly trash from our massive intercontinental runoff.

    In regards to breweries, not counting places like Hill Farmstead, Jester King, and Ommegang is just being picky and requires the original post to be far more specific. Like: "I'm looking for small breweries only, breweries that no one has heard of but me, breweries that are remote, but also not in a state I don't like, and not in a state that has a popular urban center" would be more accurate.

    To contribute one that hasn't been mentioned, 450 North is in the middle of a corn field. When you're on your way (and your car GPS and/or old school GPS are directing you incorrectly and your phone is going out), you'll definitely think you're lost. Print those MapQuest turn-by-turns beforehand :stuck_out_tongue: :laughing:
     
  6. orcrist_cleaver

    orcrist_cleaver Meyvn (1,341) May 3, 2014 New York
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    Especially true once we consider that some 'remote' behemoths like HF have a distribution radius of IDK, but I'm sure it more expensive than their geographic remoteness suggests. Then take account collaborations, brewers' origins/influences. It's not like Sean Lawson grew up in the woods and decided to make beer in VT. He was born in NJ, and then retreated to the relative recluse of VT. Except what was once a pilgrimage to a bottle shop on a specific day to get said beer, this same beer I can now get a mile way.
     
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  7. cbcrunch

    cbcrunch Poo-Bah (1,804) Jan 21, 2012 Wyoming
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  8. TheDoctor

    TheDoctor Poo-Bah (2,132) Mar 7, 2013 Quebec (Canada)
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    It's not everyday I see mention of Bill! Warms my heart as a Wyomingite. There are quite a few others of similar size too. Sage comes to mind but I think it has 2 residents assuming it still exists/hasn't had a population boom.:stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  9. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (6,459) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    When I visited Scotland we took a ferry up to the Orkney Islands and went to the Orkney Brewery. The brewery itself is well outside any town, so they are pretty remote as well - even if they have a beer that's exported to the US.
     
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  10. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (6,459) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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  11. ScaryEd

    ScaryEd Poo-Bah (1,992) Feb 19, 2012 New Hampshire

    Using Alaska is cheating lol :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  12. TheDoctor

    TheDoctor Poo-Bah (2,132) Mar 7, 2013 Quebec (Canada)
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    Nice! I'm gonna be there in a little over a week. Skullsplitter is one of the first "nice imported" beers I vividly remember having years ago and it was pretty overwhelming for my tastes back then. I am hoping to try it on tap.
     
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  13. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (6,459) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    when I was there, they had 4 beers on cask, the rest by bottle. I actually liked their Dark Island more than Skullsplitter. Not as sweet, darker and some mild roast, perfect for cask conditioning.

    But also look for a bottle of the Dark Island Reserve!
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/118/40573/
     
  14. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Savant (965) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    I can’t seem to find the conversation, but I traded crowns with a guy who works at the Orkney brewery on this site. If I can remember the user name, I’ll pass it along to you @TheDoctor . Very nice guy.
     
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  15. TheDoctor

    TheDoctor Poo-Bah (2,132) Mar 7, 2013 Quebec (Canada)
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    Will do! I'm getting excited to drink random local stuff on cask for two weeks, but am definitely equipped to schlep some bottles back here ,so that'll go on my list.
     
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  16. muddywaters

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  18. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,533) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    It took me most of the day from Arnold, CA, to drive to Tonopah, NV, on my way to Denver, and all I saw in this hot climate along the way were cows (some on the road in this fenceless country) and a few ranch houses in a desert wasteland. Tonopah Brewing's beers tasted better than I think they really were because I was so parched by the time I got there. https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/37045/?view=beers
     
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  19. mp7

    mp7 Initiate (25) Aug 10, 2019 California

    Shorts Brewing, Bellaire, MI. Population 1,086. SALUTE! Still my favorite Michigan brewery, and I'm a Founders Mug Club Member.
     
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  20. Icabodcrane

    Icabodcrane Initiate (25) Apr 12, 2019 Connecticut
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    Going there the week after next. I have never been but I love the
     
  21. Fatty_Mccracken

    Fatty_Mccracken Initiate (184) Aug 20, 2014 Illinois

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  22. Lobina

    Lobina Crusader (766) Sep 9, 2009 Arizona
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    While visiting Santorini tried to make it to this brewery but didn’t have time as had to get back to the boat. In the middle of a freaking rock island that has no fresh water. All water brought in from boats etc. Was able to find 2 bottles of the IPA. Drank them on the boat as a hassle to try and bring back to the States. Decent enough ipa but pricey. Was able to say I had a Greek IPA tho

    https://www.santorinibrewingcompany.gr/
     
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  23. eerickson7

    eerickson7 Initiate (101) May 29, 2008 Missouri
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  24. BigHopValley

    BigHopValley Initiate (71) Jul 18, 2014 Washington

    Not real remote, but yeah
    Breakside.
     
  25. NVbeer

    NVbeer Aspirant (206) Oct 3, 2002 Nevada

  26. ArsMoriendiOU818

    ArsMoriendiOU818 Zealot (548) Nov 5, 2013 California

    Beat me to saying 49th State in Healy! Should probably also point out that aside from being 4 hours away from the nearest city, the population is only approximately 1021 people! Easily beats out everything else in this thread thus far.

    Although your other option is quite remote too. I guarantee that area receives less people traffic, at the very least, and is even a further drive to a major population center, so it could very well be the #1.
     
  27. ArsMoriendiOU818

    ArsMoriendiOU818 Zealot (548) Nov 5, 2013 California

  28. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Savant (965) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    I was ‘mis-remembering’. I’m thinking of the Lerwick Brewery on Shetland. So more remote I guess.
     
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  29. humanjoe

    humanjoe Zealot (575) Aug 26, 2004 Connecticut
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    https://www.monheganbrewing.com/

    On an island, ten miles off the Maine coast. You have to take a ferry then walk since there aren't really any cars on the island.

    Good beer too!
     
  30. RedEcho

    RedEcho Initiate (62) Oct 23, 2012 Massachusetts

    https://falklandbeerworks.com/

    Can't say I've ever been there and I can't say I see myself ever getting there...but I'd like to try the Dark Mild one day.
     
  31. MatthewSwasta

    MatthewSwasta Initiate (33) Nov 18, 2017 Virginia

    Pen Druid is the only brewery in Rappahanock...could we go for quality vs remoteness vs distribution?
     
  32. MatthewSwasta

    MatthewSwasta Initiate (33) Nov 18, 2017 Virginia

    [​IMG] The Orkney Brewery and Einstök in Akureyri Ísland. I know there is some distribution in the states, but to visit...remote! I had the honor of being the first American to try the Puffin Ale back in 2017...pretty good. Remote!
     
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  33. July2Nov

    July2Nov Crusader (741) Aug 27, 2006 Virginia

    https://m.facebook.com/pages/category/Bar/eola-school-466762980135/

    Eola School Brewery in Eola, TX has got to be the most remote brewery I've ever encountered. Population was recorded at 218 in 1990. Believe it's closer to 54 for 2019. It's in an old Schoolhouse that has obviously seen better days, but the beer & pizza were solid as a diploma.
     
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  34. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,994) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    It’s certainly off the beaten path that’s for sure, if your too remote how can you make money? You could brew beer at Moosehead Lake ME, population 63, but you can’t make money because it’s a logistical nightmare all the way around. But certainly Hill Farmstead is certainly a bitch to get to, winter must be unreal.
     
  35. July2Nov

    July2Nov Crusader (741) Aug 27, 2006 Virginia

    Hopkins Ordinary Aleworks is just right down the street in the basement of their B&B, so Pen Druid isn't the only one in Sperryville.
     
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  36. Kmoede

    Kmoede Initiate (19) May 30, 2018 Wyoming

    Ten Sleep Brewing in Ten Sleep Wyoming is rather remote.
     
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  37. smbslt

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  38. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,474) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    I've been to Tuscon, Tucumcari, but not to Tehachipi or Tonapa. (so).

    There is a classic Little Feet song that mentions all of those, named "Willin".
    "And I've been from Tucson to Tucumcari
    Tehachapi to Tonapah"

    Give it a listen. Many have covered it.
     
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  39. MatthewSwasta

    MatthewSwasta Initiate (33) Nov 18, 2017 Virginia

    Yup...still remote and neither distribute. Thanks for the reminder. The basement pub room/fireplace is going to be a nice hang out this winter. I should have know better..I have a 2018 Saison Noire from Hopkins in the fridge right now.
     
  40. jfxmair

    jfxmair Initiate (77) Dec 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    North Haven Brewing Company on North Haven Island, Maine in the middle of Pennobscott Bay. It’s accessible only by boat. Discovered it last year on an early fall sailing trip. Population is about 350-400. Had a great time there and met some interesting people. Don’t remember much about the beer.