What are we going to do with Places?

Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (3,201) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    The map at Places/Nearby is not giving me anything when I try to bring it up. Is it working for anyone else? Thanks.
     
  2. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Poo-Bah (9,700) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    No longer appears to work on the site when accessed from a laptop (have not tried from my phone).
     
  3. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Poo-Bah (2,583) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    About 24 hours, and it’s not working on the desktop, tablet, or phone.
     
  4. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,495) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Update: https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...ed-to-the-nearby-feature.621528/#post-6940741
     
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  5. BIBSHORTS

    BIBSHORTS Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2015 Virginia

    When I travel for biz I always search places by state to see what the top locations are. While some of it is outdated, it still makes a good resource if you are willing to do a little extra web searching. What I would enjoy seeing listed is both an easily accessible top rated beers and breweries by avg beer rating for each state.
     
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  6. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Poo-Bah (2,583) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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  7. elNopalero

    elNopalero Poo-Bah (4,088) Oct 14, 2009 California
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    Minor suggestion here--could the phone number automatically format? I just suggested a place, and typed the number in. Took me two seconds to correct it to the proper format, and I've now spent more time thinking about it.

    Not entirely thread-related but definitely relevant, however, as I am slowly getting around to posting reviews I've sat on for a while I've realized that so many of the places I just loved to visit simply cannot open right now. And one place out of the few I did post tonight has closed already. Yeesh. I had such a nice little mini-tour of sorts at the start of this year, and so much--so much!--has happened since then.
     
  8. WillieThreebiers

    WillieThreebiers Poo-Bah (7,147) Apr 26, 2012 Connecticut
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    I'm a big fan of Places and used it regularly prior to lock down, and am looking forward to using it more, hopefully in the near future. I agree with much that's been said about the clunky-ness and subjectivity of rating, but the reviews are often very helpful. And having a heads up on kid-friendly places isn't a terrible idea either.

    I don't know if this has been brought up elsewhere, but it would be nice if BA began listing online beer seller. In the past few months, I've used TapRm, Beer Drop, and CraftShack and been very happy with their services. I imagine there are others and it would be nice to have a data base of them here with users reviews.
     
  9. officerbill

    officerbill Champion (815) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    B. United is charging $12 per case of 12 for shipping (even number cases ship free in same order). What are you paying for shipping? That was always the killer for me.
     
  10. mmmbeerNY

    mmmbeerNY Devotee (456) Mar 5, 2014 New York

    I'm a big fan of the places section on BA. When I travel I always look up the town going through / stopping in, staying in,a surrounding towns. Use it to pick bars and restaurants. Nice to get vibes of places and I've read a lot of good reviews. Of course I've noticed some places have lack of recent reviews
     
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  11. mmmbeerNY

    mmmbeerNY Devotee (456) Mar 5, 2014 New York

    The reason I like Places over Forums to get info is time. I can look at Places for 30mins the night before and map out a few options. I don't want to have to post in Forums and wait for people to give suggestions. I mainly use Places to get the names of a bar, store, or restaurant and then I go to their website/Facebook to lookup menu and Google maps for location I'll use a different site to see how a restaurant is rated if I like the beer and review on here.
     
  12. WillieThreebiers

    WillieThreebiers Poo-Bah (7,147) Apr 26, 2012 Connecticut
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    Beer Drop is flat rate $5
    TapRm is free shipping orders over $25; I'm not sure how far they'll ship outside the NYC metro area.
    Craft Shack is $29 per case to the east coast.
     
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  13. ahacsgt

    ahacsgt Initiate (122) Mar 11, 2007 Massachusetts

    I have used this section of the web site for years! It is very helpful. I have used it to discover fantastic places in Belgium, Netherlands, UK, Dubai, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Singapore, and, of course, the US! Please leave it as is. If you wish to modify it you can have separate rankings for beer, food, location/staff. Thanks!
     
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  14. BillAfromSoCal

    BillAfromSoCal Disciple (339) Aug 24, 2020 California

    The places reviews here are much more useful to me than YELP because the reviews/ratings of places here force expressions of specific types of attributes (i.e., Vibe, service, food, quality, etc.) whereas Yelp is just a single number with some stream of consciousness in comments that too often fixate on one or two attributes that don't reflect a beer aficionado's interests. I added three new places just yesterday because I value that Places section.
     
  15. FBarber

    FBarber Poo-Bah (5,166) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Hey @Todd, just a thought, I was wondering if there was any way to add a check box on places similar to "wants" on the beer page to keep track of places you'd want to visit. I thought of it today, because there was a place in downstate IL that I want to swing by once I start traveling for work again ...
     
  16. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,495) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Basically a bookmark feature for places.
     
  17. FBarber

    FBarber Poo-Bah (5,166) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Yea, pretty much.
     
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  18. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,495) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Depends on what we do with Places. I'll be looking at the numbers soon to help make a call.
     
  19. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (1,859) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    This might have been mentioned earlier and the thread, and I can certainly imagine and understand if it's not a direction that ba wants to go, but what about adding some element of gameification to the places aspect? Some kind of unique tag/flair system that users could gain by adding/reviewing places? Could maybe result in a "local guide" type tag for top regional reviewers?
     
  20. cryptichead

    cryptichead Poo-Bah (1,674) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    I think it would be good to add a box or a stat to each place showing whether a place offers delivery or curbside pickup. Maybe a link to the order page.
     
  21. BillAfromSoCal

    BillAfromSoCal Disciple (339) Aug 24, 2020 California

    To me there is real value in having an alternative to YELP. BA Places offers a unique beer-centric point of view. I do believe that inclusion of generic retailers who just happen to sell some random six packs of beer has no value. I have read some really pathetic "reviews" of mom and pop liquor stores which were not even technically correct.
     
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  22. cryptichead

    cryptichead Poo-Bah (1,674) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    Agreed. I still find value in Places especially in the Map Nearby feature (RIP)
     
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  23. REVZEB

    REVZEB Poo-Bah (9,810) Mar 28, 2013 Illinois
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    So I totally missed this thread when it came out, please do not turn off rating places! I use it every time I travel. BA is great at finding the classic beer locale, not just the trending joints that google, Yelp and fb pull up. Love to have all available!
     
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  24. Sludgeman

    Sludgeman Poo-Bah (2,391) Aug 17, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Before the nearby feature was disabled, one of the most valuable features on this site. I cannot tell you how many times the group I took out for beers and food asked “how did you find this place?”
     
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  25. cryptichead

    cryptichead Poo-Bah (1,674) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    Oh yeah 100% agree. That feature made me look like a hero a few times for sure
     
  26. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Poo-Bah (2,583) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    While there are alternatives to the Nearby feature, I would rather BA get my traffic. Besides, when linked to Places, BA’s map was superior to the alternatives. Not that it is all that difficult to blend. Still I prefer BA get my traffic.
     
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  27. elNopalero

    elNopalero Poo-Bah (4,088) Oct 14, 2009 California
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    Is there a way to search for places added by member names?
     
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  28. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Poo-Bah (4,091) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    Forgot about this thread...definitely miss nearby places function.
    Even if map on BA was linked to places in UT DB, I think it is a valuable tool for this site to offer for travelers that utilize BA for guidance.
    Could still connect icons on map to places reviews on BA.
    Looking forward to updates on this thread and function.
     
  29. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,495) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Not at this time.
     
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  30. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,495) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    I hope to discuss this and many other things with the team in the upcoming months.
     
  31. Franziskaner

    Franziskaner Poo-Bah (4,865) May 27, 2005 Missouri
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    I've finally started reviewing and adding places again more recently. I still use it when I travel as a starting point, but also reach out on the regional forums because there's a lot of great advice to be had from people there in my experience.

    I actually created a ZeeMap of where my clients are located for work with regards to planning trips. Not going to lie I made up a second map of breweries that I've had beers from that I had a lot of respect or was contemplating as a bucket list to visit. This was prior to the pandemic and I ran out of free visits to the map, but at some point if things allow for more travel I will be happy to actually pay for it. Something along those lines might actually drive some business to the breweries.

    I suspect another thought would be to give a bit more beer karma for formal reviews of places than they've been doling out. Some would probably take up the incentive.
     
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  32. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (2,590) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Places is very useful for me and I wish it could be expanded.
     
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  33. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (3,201) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    If you're asking for a list of the member names who added each of the breweries in California (for example), then Todd's reply covers it.

    However, if you want to see what places a specific member has visited, then you can see that list by clicking on that member's name in their avatar box, then click on the actual total number of places attributed to that member.
     
  34. elNopalero

    elNopalero Poo-Bah (4,088) Oct 14, 2009 California
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    Former, not latter. Full disclosure: I was trying to find if I had added a place but couldn’t remember its name—a Russian kvass producer I tracked down. (Re)submitted/updates today.
     
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