Yeah man, everything works in cycles. Before filtration methods were perfected, I'm sure most if not all beers were Hazy By Nature (good beer name there that's probably been done). Just give it time. The fickle consumer will grow tired of haze and yearn for something different.
It's only better when it tastes better, which is subjective. If breweries like Tree House and Other Half didn't exist, I would probably be more in agreement with your assessments, but the proof is in the pudding...And yes, sometimes it almost looks like pudding...which I'm fine with as long as it tastes good
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/47096/380543/ I knew it sounded familiar. Haven't heard much from these guys in a while though. They must've backed off of distro in my part of the state.
I've stopped buying new-to-me IPAs for this reason unless they're labeled as WC, and I still don't purchase WCIPAs from a brewery known for producing NEIPA. More likely than not it's just a hazy that they used Chico on.
I completely understand that. Personally I’ll still take the chance especially if purchasing an IPA mix-pack. I guess I’m just a habitual ticker and enjoy trying new beers even when they miss the mark.
Established,...yes. Consistent? Only with SNPA but all their other hazy bullshit is garbage. Porter? Gone. Brown ale? Gone. Narwhal? Only exists 585884933miles away. Bigfoot? Inconsistent. I can FEEL the selling out coming. They're a God damned hazeboi littlethings machine now. Just kidding @sierraterrance
Agreed on the "Taste 1st" philosophy. That, however, isn't the case with most purposefully overly hazy beers. John Kimmich has a lot of interesting viewpoints on brewing these types of beers and I think more brewers should make note of them, as their NEIPAs would improve if they did so. Surprised to hear that you can't find Narwhal and you find Bigfoot to be inconsistent. Never had an issue and I don't live very close to either of their breweries. They're the biggest true craft brewery , so I would find this hard to believe. Nothing's impossible, I just find it to be very unlikely. As are a lot of very reputable, solid breweries. It's an inevitability, as these beers are moneymakers, so everyone wants in on them. I put SN in the same category as New Belgium as far as these beers go. If they can fund the cool side of things and the brewery can make a variety of other beers on the hazeboi dime, I'm very OK with them making as many hazy beers as they want. I'm just not going to drink them. The magical thing about those hazy beers is that nobody's making you drink them, either.
There has been some discussion about the effect that filtering could potentially have on the sensory qualities of the resulting beer. Below is a video of a side-by-side tasting of ‘regular’ (i.e., filtered) Stella Artois and unfiltered Stella Artois both brewed at the same brewery. For further clarification there is a slight difference in ABV of these two versions of Stella Artois. In my opinion, since the ABV difference is so slight, this should not present much of a difference in the flavor qualities of these two beers. As you watch the video the appearance difference is notable. So, which of these two versions is the ‘winner’ of this side-by-side tasting? Cheers!
@bambiere the inconsistencies in Bigfoot aren't a bad thing , they just have massive variation when it comes to every vintage released. While i adore them i hate them just as much gor the same reasons as most. Can't find shit in shelves that isn't hazy stuff or Torpedo . A lot of times the SNPA is old, too Funny thing is i dont remember typing my response at all. We need an "IM DRUNK RIGHT NOW" filter here somewhere
Agreed. Differences in hop crop year to year, one would expect. All that sucks, though I'd MUCH rather have Torpedo than anything hazy. Hilarious, that!
Maybe I’m being picky here but the fact that this guy poured one beer to the brim in a smaller glass, leaving no room for heady aromatics, and the other to the halfway point in a in a much larger glass, makes him lose a bit of credibility in my book. I’m not saying he’s not picking up those skunky, metallic notes in the filtered version that most are already familiar with in Stella but c’mon now. So much of that aroma is long gone in that glass compared to the unfiltered version. Side note, I doubt the unfiltered version is going to change the minds of filtered Stella drinkers who probably mostly drink AALs (or their euro counterparts) and occasionally buy Stella when they’re feeling “fancy” and got extra coin to spend. If I’m used to perfectly clear, fizzy, pale pee pee beer, and I pour an unfiltered Stella that tastes as different as this guy claims, while it might not be bad or offensive, it’s probably not in my wheelhouse.
