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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by devlishdamsel, Jun 4, 2013.
and it blew you away!
I recently tried the mosaic variety. It was insanely delicious!
Mosaic is an awesome hop.
I recently had Crystal for the first time (in this beer). Really great.
Rainier, it was very nice. Really actually tasted like Rainier cherry juice, and that's my favorite cherry so that's cool.
For me it has to be Galaxy. I've never had a beer with this variety before until within the last month or so. Clown Shoes Galactica, Revolution Galaxy Hero, and Half Acre Galactic Double Daisy Cutter were all phenomenal! That mandarine orange/tangerine character that Galaxy gives those beers is something truly awesome!
I am right in line with the first two posts haha. I had Mosaic for the first time recently Terrapin-Mosaic. It's a single hopped red rye ale, very unique beer. Would recommend.
Falconer's Flight was an interesting entity, to say the least. Had that in Dark Horse's FF Edkoorc Eert.
Mosaic is so 2011.
It was in brewing trials in 2011, and I managed to pick up some then. Really good hop. Had beers from Bells and RR that used Mosiac back when it was X-369.
Falconers Flight is not a new hop variety, but a blend of hops marketed by the hop supplier Hopunion.
I will agree that Mosiac blew me away. It also had something to do with the crazy geniuses over at Toppling Goliath with this creation: Sosus.
Sosus beat out Dreadnaught, Pliny, Abrasive, and 2 others in a blinded tasting this past weekend. Pretty impressive.
Legacy. Absolute grapefruit! Had it at Brewery Ferment in their amazing Lady Legacy IPA.
Citra hops for me in Zombie Dust and in Odd Side Ale's Citra Pale Ale. I really like that flavor.
+1 for Mosaic. Had it the first time (as far as I know) a couple nights ago in SA Latitude 48 IPA. Very tasty!
Another tally for Mosaic...
Based on a description I read in a homebrewing magazine ("Mosaic is the first born child of Simcoe. Some have described it as Citra on steroids, but it’s much more than that. Rich in Mango, lemon, citrus, earthy pine, tropical fruit, herbal and stone fruit notes"), I picked it up to dry hop a DIPA I brewed and haven't looked back since. Easily my favorite hop...have since used it in three consecutive brews. I'll probably overdo it and be looking for the latest and greatest again by the end of the summer though
No, I know it's a blend, and that it's not new, but as the primary hop for a dissected beer, it was a new experience for me. The thread is about new experience, not new hop varietals.
The title clearly asks about hop varieties. Anyhoo- I like the falconers blend as well.
To the OP: Recently I brewed single hop beers of Mosaic, which is a delicious if a bit non-descript hop for me. It started out very much pineapple, then as it aged it was a mixture of over ripe tropical fruits and blueberry. Odd but tasty. Galaxy- which is my favorite newly discovered hop. On it's own it was one of the best single hop beers I've ever had. Columbia- was a non selected linage from Willamette- and I have no idea why, it was excellent when I used it in a single hop bitter.
One I don't care for in high doses or on it's own- Nelson Sauvin.
Nelson Sauvin. No idea how this has not been used more often. But like JLpred said, use in moderation
My literal reading of the thread title. Falconers is a good blend, so is Zythos.
Yes it does. Hop varieties that you've experience for the first time.
Kane Brewing, here in NJ, hosted a single hop IPA event this past Saturday. Mosaic and Citra were the crowd favorites, but the Pacific Hallertau (Pacifica) came out of nowhere and blew many of us away. Massive sweet orange with some spice. Double dry-hopped versions of the brewery's flagship IPA Head High were also available, but the two I tried (Belma and Legacy) didn't seem to bring much to the table.
+1 to Falconer's Flight. Just had On the Wings of Armageddon and it was pretty great.
I was at this event too and it was incredible! Really a treat to see how each individual hop varietal completely changed the beer! My 2 favorites were Citra (no surprise there!) and the Pacific Hallertau! I know I've had Citra in plenty of beers before, but I'm not sure about Pacific Hallertau. Honestly I don't check too often, so unless it's listed on the bottle or right on the BA rating page I don't know which hops have been used. Regardless, it was one I was at least not too familiar with the name (maybe heard it referenced 2-3 times prior), and it truly gave Citra a run for its money for the best overall! Mosaic was also excellent, though the aroma at first wasn't the greatest it improved as it warmed, and the flavor came in right behind the PH and Citra. All of the varieties were good and brought different things to the table (Nelson Sauvin = awesome/unique aroma!). This was possibly my favorite beer event I've attended to date!
Tonight we get to try a beer using a new Australian hop grown in Victoria, just released this year, and brought back by a friend. It had a name that had to be changed due to a cease and desist from a lingerie company with initials VS. Don't know what it is called now.
I am curious.... can you folks detect that certain hops are used in beers or do you just know which kinds are used because you read the labels, recipes, info, etc.?
Jesse, I personally can detect Simcoe since it has a piney flavor/aroma to me. I can usually detect Citra since that hop has a tropical flavor/aroma to my palate. I can typically perceive Centennial as that hop is very citrusy (almost juicy from a fruity sort of way). A lot of people perceive Centennial as grapefruit.
A number of hoppy beers use more than one type of hop (e.g., Ithaca Flower Power). When multiple hop varieties are used then it is very difficult to perceive a given hop(s).
I am typically not a fan of solely Nelson Sauvin hopped beers. I recently had a taste (1 ounce pour) of a local brewpubs Nelson Sauvin hopped IPA; I couldn’t even drink the whole 1 ounces.
You may want to try Anchor Humming Ale which is solely hopped with Nelson Sauvin; that is a tasty beer. I think the difference is that Anchor uses a judicious amount of hops in making that beer.
Galaxy. I had Stone IPA on Cask, conditioned with Galaxy and it was really citrus, orange, tangerine on the nose. From the looks of it, I really need to try Mosaic hops! I'll have to look up what's available in my neck of the woods.
Prior to the Kane event I mentioned before there were only a few hop varieties that I could pick out just from smelling/tasting (Nelson, Simcoe and Citra for the most part, though I might have been able to pick out a couple others like Cascade etc.). Now I feel I have a much more solid idea of what aromas and flavors are coming out of several others (Pacific Hallertau, Mosaic, Amarillo...)! I would love to attend another event like this if for nothing more than to continue to hone my palate to pick out specific hop varieties =)
What is this event you speak of? Sounds like quite the learning opportunity.
That's what I was wondering about really, the brews with multiple hops. It must be so difficult. The only hop I can identify in any beer at this point is Centennial in Two Hearted!
Style you are brewing?
“ …the brews with multiple hops. It must be so difficult.”
Alpine makes an IPA that they call Duet: “Our original single IPA made with Simcoe and Amarillo hops “in harmony.” I have had that beer (and my homebrewed version of that beer). Since there are only two hops in that beer, and those two hops have distinctive flavor/aroma differences, I can ‘detect’ those two hops. The Simcoe provides a distinctive piney flavor/aroma while the Amarillo provides a citrusy flavor/aroma. Now, if somebody made an IPA with a blend of Simcoe and another citrusy hop (e.g., Centennial or Ahtanum) I might state: this IPA has Simcoe and Amarillo hops but I would be wrong. Yup, it can be difficult.
Can I pay you to send me a mix-a-six of your homebrews?
Kane Brewing in NJ took their Head High (single IPA) recipe and made something like 11 (initially was supposed to be 9, but they had at least 2 more that hadn't been listed on their website prior to the event) different variations by making each with only 1 type of hops. It was both delicious and educational! =) They also had some other special stuff for the event like their DIPA, Overhead, on nitro tap (absolutely phenomenal!), a cask DIPA, an imperial amber/red, and a Triple IPA! I really hope they do it again some time, even if it's only like once a year!
Beer is already brewed, and we get to try it tonight.
Ah, misread. Ok, so what style was brewed with these muled hops?
Will find out tonight and report on these tomorrow.
The hops are a sister of Galaxy or Topaz. Will ask about them in more detail.
Galaxy, crystal and sorachi were all new to me recent. I got to try revolution's galaxy hero and crystal hero, plus pipeworks something hoppy this way comes, and they were all good to me.
I had Polaris a while back in a Crux IPA. That was nice. Crux also used Triskel (Alsace region of France) in their French Connection Imperial IPA. I didn't like the beer, but had never heard of the hop variety before.
Mosaic is the big one for me right now. I might have had it before, but wasn't aware. pFriem's Single Hop Pale and Crux's Imperial IPA were both really nice.
Jack, I have had a lot of Zeelander IPA by Topppling Goliath. It is 100% Nelson and heavy at that, and it comes across a lot more herbal and dank than when I use it. It is pretty tasty. The Anchor Humming Ale to me is ok as well but a little thin and one dimensional to my palate.
I recently tasted Galaxy hops for the first time in Point's new Galaxy hopped IPA.
Nelson Sauvin, when heavily used (e.g., an IPA), has a weird flavor (a weird white wine flavor?) that I don’t like. Another local brewpub made an all Nelson Sauvin hopped Pale Ale that I was able to drink an 8 ounce glass of. With the exception of Anchor Humming Ale, I really, really don’t like Nelson Sauvin hops on their own.
The Anchor Humming Ale is a non-complex beer. It is classified as an APA but to me it is a nice summertime type beer (like a Blonde Ale in that regard). I enjoy drinking Anchor Beer but as I stated it is a non-complex beer. It has drinkability!