What is the worst price gouging / profiteering you've seen?

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  1. supercolter

    supercolter Crusader (773) Apr 19, 2006 Wisconsin
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    Is it an "essential commodity" (oh good, I opened myself up to a troll to tell me it is to some people) under the law of your state? Then no, it's not price gouging. It's just a contractual offer you deem inequitable.
     
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  2. MWolverines66

    MWolverines66 Disciple (351) Mar 13, 2013 New York
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    I have seen $16 for HT and $45 for Reuze this month
     
  3. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois

    Any of the crappy Three Floyds BA variants for $45 not named "Dark Lord".
     
  4. alexanf

    alexanf Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2012 Mississippi

    $28 for a 12oz bottle of Uncle Jacobs Stout.
     
  5. kvgomps

    kvgomps Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2013 New Jersey

    I saw that bottle in downtown Philly too. The lady behind the counter explained to me that the reason the price was so high is because they didn't have a lot of it and wanted more people to get a chance to buy it. When I explained to her that's the rationale for limiting to one per customer and that what they were doing was price gouging, she gave me a vacant stare.
     
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  6. krl2112

    krl2112 Crusader (736) Nov 10, 2012 Illinois
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    $300 for Utopias last year. That's about $100 over regular price.
     
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  7. mrcraft

    mrcraft Poo-Bah (2,057) Dec 15, 2012 California
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    $49.99 for one 22 oz. bottle of Enjoy By (saw a photo posted here). Unnamed liquor store in Central California.

    Not quite as bad but another liquor store in Southern California was selling Parabola for $40 a bottle (saw this one in person).
     
  8. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    $550...I win :slight_smile:
     
  9. SteelSaw

    SteelSaw Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2013 Indiana

    For real though was Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale at $6.50 a bottle, yes a bottle. It was at a Clutch, The Sword and Crowbot concert I went to Thursday night. I was crazy enough to buy one too. Due to it being the only decent beer there.
     
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  10. Mersh

    Mersh Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2013 Connecticut

    I paid $32 for this years High West Rye Eclipse.
     
  11. dzyneguru

    dzyneguru Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2010 Minnesota

    When I got into craft beer, part of the reason was my buddy telling me that he got into because he was big into wine but realized that he would never be able to afford the best wines in the world. The best wines are THOUSANDS of dollars. Beer, on the other hand, you can get the best beer in the world for under $100. That made a lot of sense to me.

    Is $30 a lot for a bottle? Yeah, but it could be way worse… and I'm sure it will get there. The more breweries that open (MN alone has about 20 opening in 2014) the more demand there will be for the best hops, bourbon/rum/brandy/etc barrels. Breweries will have to pay more, therefore they will have to charge more. I personally don't think the prices are out of hand - yet.
     
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  12. ThisWangsChung

    ThisWangsChung Poo-Bah (3,146) Oct 15, 2011 Maryland
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    Just today, I found some 4 packs of Double Jack at a store VERY close to my house...for $19.

    It was twice as crushing considering it was the freshest I've ever seen this beer in the DMV area, and thrice as crushing considering this store usually has good prices.
     
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  13. krl2112

    krl2112 Crusader (736) Nov 10, 2012 Illinois
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    I would slap the person behind the counter!!
     
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  14. mrkdwrds

    mrkdwrds Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2010 California

    I saw Velvet Merkin, Parabola, and Sucaba all priced at $29.99 at a local store. The worst part is that I live in Santa Barbara County where even grocery stores get limited release FW beers, and prices are all at $15-$16 (which is MSRP).
     
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  15. WillRadar

    WillRadar Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2009 Minnesota

    I agree...Almost all of their seasonals are overpriced/gouged. Darkness going for $24 - $30 after taxes and its not even barreled aged. Couldn't get my hands on Wet so I don't know what that was. Their anniversary beers are the same going for $20-$27. Abrasive is even over priced and its around for 3 months. $16-$17 plus tax is high for a 4 pack of tall boys.

    I'm also like you and refused to overpay to a degree. Hopefully more people will stop paying up or with the new expansion they can produce enough to bring the price down. But with going to Chicago now doubt that will happen.
     
  16. fredmugs

    fredmugs Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2012 Indiana
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    % wise I saw a year old bottle of Hopslam for $10.
     
  17. jasoncheb

    jasoncheb Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2012 Virginia

    Saw a bomber of Sculpin for $26 at a restaurant. Roughly $17 more than what I pay for a bomber normally.
     
  18. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Which one? Dee's or HO1KB??
     
  19. jrnyc

    jrnyc Meyvn (1,149) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    That's nuts!
     
  20. trentbrown89

    trentbrown89 Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2013 California

    Thank you!! Not sure People are getting the "gouge" aspect. Eclipse isn't a gouge at $30 cause that is its retail price . (It may be overpriced but that's another story).

    I've seen damnation priced at $20 at a bar at the same price as the RR sours
     
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  21. cmds

    cmds Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2013 Texas

    I'd probably charge $22 on $9, but that's no really that unreasonable. Bars and restaurants want to run at a 25% beer cost overall, large formats are marked up significantly less than small formats. Hell, I charge $8 for a single of Sculpin and I'm sold out currently.
     
  22. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    I'm not trying to justify it, but it was a brewery-only release that cost $15/bottle straight from HoTD. After shipping it all the way across the country and then marking it up a bit to make a profit, I'm not surprised they were charging that much. Similarly, DC was $6/bottle unless you bought a full case, and then it was $5/bottle.

    The crazier thing is that I've just been sending out bottles of Otto as extras when I could have been charging $30 for them...
     
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  23. striker2160

    striker2160 Initiate (0) May 5, 2013 Minnesota

    We were in Chicago for black Friday some bar was charging 60 bucks for Bourbon County Cherry Rye and 50 for coffee.
     
  24. Preluderl

    Preluderl Devotee (491) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Packs and Dogs on Mt. Washington. The House didn't get any, last I knew. Not sure about D's. I picked up two bottles at the Shaler GE for $6.50 per. They only got one case and it was gone in a few hours.
     
  25. Iamstryker

    Iamstryker Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2012 New Jersey

    You still can't gouge beer.
     
  26. SteelSaw

    SteelSaw Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2013 Indiana

    They absolutely do! They sound just as good live as they do on their CD's. The Sword does as well. Both are in my top bands.
     
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  27. NonicPanic

    NonicPanic Devotee (487) Nov 16, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    $25 for riserva, $32 for black ops and $15 for a 12 oz bottle of Tokyo.
     
  28. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

    .89 for a keystone light. Talk about rape
     
  29. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California
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    Most everything, and especially sours from the Bruery
    Most everything Lost Abbey
    Unproven, random new breweries popping up everywhere selling 22oz IPA Bombers $7.99+
    $20 for less than 22oz Southern Charred, especially at that distribution.
    Again, all Eclipse Variants.
    6-packs of Sculpin and Ruination (now 4-packs and still overpriced)
    Simtra
     
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  30. JHE73

    JHE73 Initiate (143) Mar 7, 2013 California
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    $85 Mamouch
     
  31. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    can people please stop posting bar/restaurant/concert prices and calling it "gouging?" 200%+ markup is STANDARD
     
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  32. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Haven't been there yet. Good selection? Dee's is my go to but I've never seen it there.
     
  33. ColdOne

    ColdOne Aspirant (256) Jan 19, 2013 New York
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    I have to admit I was tempted by both the Bois and the Eclipse. But that's what, a $90 6-pack? If I'm going to continue feeding this craft habit, I'm going to have to get out of teaching and find a real job.

     
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  34. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    At a bar, that's fair. I paid $64 for a case of Sculpin.
     
  35. gcamparone

    gcamparone Poo-Bah (1,997) Dec 6, 2011 Rhode Island
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    I don't get how people can say that there's no such thing as price gouging in beer.

    Take an extremely limited beer.
    Said beer happens to be distributed to only one location within reasonable distance of beer aficionado.
    Beer retailer takes advantage of this by charging much more than MSRP.

    To those who don't trade and have zero access to a beer that they'd love to try, but must pay a lot more than it was intended to be sold for, THIS IS PRICE GOUGING.

    High markup is standard at bars/restaurants, but unethical at liquor stores and should be reported to the brewery.
     
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  36. Dreizhen

    Dreizhen Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2013 District of Columbia

    Basically all Belgian Beer in America.
     
  37. life_is_beautiful

    life_is_beautiful Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2013 Pennsylvania

    That's Philly for you...Price a sought after bottle reasonably and it sells quick, but mark it up at an ambiguous rate, and it'll still sell, but it'll take longer. That being said, I wonder how long they've been sitting on Otto or Doggie Claws, haven't seen new shipments of those pop up recently; or they happened behind closed doors.

    Going to copy and paste this from my post in the bombers thread:
    Sweet Repute $28
    Firestone Walker XVII $37
    Bruery Bois $40
    Abyss +$30 in multiple spots
    50/50 Eclipse Series $37
     
  38. alex_hart

    alex_hart Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2013 Oklahoma

    dosnt WWW normally go for $9.99 per bottle? In which case that would actually be a completely reasonable price, and at about 20% abv per bottle, thats really not that bad of a deal anyways (not that I was a huge fan of this beer, id much more likely pay the same for more 120 minute!!)
     
  39. life_is_beautiful

    life_is_beautiful Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I think the delineation between some BAs on this issue is the strict definition of gouging in the legal sense. I may be wrong, but I think most in this crowd would prefer the term "profiteering". Either way, we're just speaking semantics.
     
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  40. ASak10

    ASak10 Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2014 Colorado

    I think the problem is people are mixing up a lot of different concepts: price gouging, over pricing, value, etc. If a brewery sets an MSRP of $30 for a bomber, and the store sells it for $30, the store isn't gouging anyone - it's selling the beer for what the brewer suggested it sell for. Now if the store sold that same bottle for $100, I think that's more in line with even the loose BA definition of "gouging." This shouldn't be a thread about beer people think is overpriced because the brewer set a high price.
     
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