What is the worst price gouging / profiteering you've seen?

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  1. TdLJg

    TdLJg Initiate (0) Oct 6, 2011 Connecticut

    The bar's cost is probably $2 a bottle. F that place.
     
  2. hopley

    hopley Meyvn (1,375) Feb 24, 2010 Massachusetts
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    One of the Goose Island's bombers - Matilda or Lolita - or one of these - I saw in a liquor store in downtown Boston for $36. There was also another Goose Island in the $20 - $30 range. But at the same store they were selling BCBS for $6 / bottle which seems to be standard (and fair considering other craft beer prices and the ~15% ABV). This suggests to me that the $36 for that one bottle was the MSRP - but can not be sure about this - regardless, way out of my price range for a beer of any type (maybe with the exception of really high ABV Sam Adams' Utopias, etc.).

    Consistent with other comments in this thread - I'm trying to not pay anything over $10 - $12 per bomber but do believe that if people continue paying outrageously high prices, then brewers and retailers will keep charging them. That is the capitalistic system we operate within, like it or not. So I'll just keep rebelling in my own way by not supporting those who charge such high prices - regardless of beer quality, brewer or retailer.
     
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  3. TheGator321

    TheGator321 Initiate (0) May 29, 2013 Connecticut

    Those Spencer, Ma. monks selling beer for 18/ 4-pk.
     
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  4. WelshBrewer

    WelshBrewer Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2013 Oregon

    Highest I paid was $13 for a bottle of True Love from Crux, that was stiff, but then I bought (3) bottles of Bois from the Bruery for $30 a pop. IMHO it was worth it for the Bois. Some one said they wouldn't pay $30 for a bottle of wine? well I would which means I would pay $30 for a good bottle of beer. Mind you not always but I will do it.
     
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  5. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    I believe that's the going price, or at least in the neighborhood.
     
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  6. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Initiate (0) Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    That's really the only beer I saw on their menu that was way off the mark with pricing -- everything else is pretty fair for a bar. They have 300 bottled/canned beers with a nice tap selection, so I'd say one joke is fine.

    They sell cans of Old Chub for $3.50, which is a steal in my opinion, considering it's a bar.
     
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  7. waddellc2

    waddellc2 Defender (684) Aug 23, 2012 Pennsylvania

    A case of Dogfish head 120 minute (Also WWS I believe, but not positive) is $220 at the actual brewery. Although expensive, $10 a bottle is selling it ALMOST at cost ($9.16 a bottle)
     
  8. Crazy4LegMoose

    Crazy4LegMoose Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2008 Massachusetts

    Worst I have seen is a local Gastro Pub near my work and they want 16 for a bottle of Maine Peeper. Even worse they want 20 for a bottle of Maine's MO. They have a good selection and most beers aren't that outrageous but those two were crazy.
     
  9. Rbartuska

    Rbartuska Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2013 Illinois

    Posts like this are irritating for those of us that manage bars. Our cost on a case of bcs is $101. Liquor stores pay the same. When people complain about $20 four packs in a store or $9 bottles in a bar, they need to do the proper math. Where did you get your $2 figure from? Cases of founders imperial, harvest ale, backwoods are $55. So you can't even get those for $2.
     
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  10. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    And at $20/4 pack, the store is hardly making any money
     
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  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,148) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    That would be the case only if the brewery is selling it on-site at retail for the same price its distributors are selling it at wholesale to retailers (which, of course, is unlikely - since most breweries do not undercut their main market, their wholesale and retail customers).
     
  12. rxeight

    rxeight Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2012 Illinois

    $35 for Proprietors, yes I paid it, because it was the first bottle I got (and at the time feared it might be the only).
     
  13. dkrep

    dkrep Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2013 Wisconsin

    Local distributor told me they are getting DFH WWS at about $7.60~ per bottle, so to see it in stores at $8.99-9.99 is not too crazy. $18/bottle would be gouging.
     
  14. KolbMarley

    KolbMarley Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Bombers get ridiculous around here(Lancaster, PA) and places around here that fill growlers make no sense price wise. I dont know that Ive ever divided the price of any 64oz. growler fill by 4(number of pints I'll get) and said "man, what a deal!"
     
  15. hikanteki

    hikanteki Initiate (90) Oct 11, 2013 California
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    About 90% of everything in bars. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  16. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Beverages4Less?
     
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  17. KolbMarley

    KolbMarley Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Bars, bottle shops and distributors don't get any sort of discount from the actual retail price on cases? And let's not forget tapped craft beer, basically a gold mine and don't attempt to convince me its not, especially these places with there 12, 10 and even 8 ounce pours
     
  18. SupremePie

    SupremePie Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2012 Vermont

    $75 Grand Cru Bruoscella
     
  19. RhyminBelmont

    RhyminBelmont Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Illinois

    Non-variant Dark Lord 2011 for over $100 at a suburban bottle shop.

    $50 for a 4-pack of BCBBW (for which i almost took the pinch :/ ). $40 for a Proprieter's at the same location.

    $15 for a Hop Stoopid bomber at a bar in my Alma Mater's hometown.
     
  20. ChrisMQ

    ChrisMQ Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2010 New York

    $100 for Fou Foune at a beer store (not a bar) in Brooklyn
     
  21. ahbithwabm

    ahbithwabm Devotee (405) Apr 27, 2013 Illinois

    $20 a six pack of zombie dust
     
  22. KolbMarley

    KolbMarley Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I would jump on that so fast
     
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  23. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Poo-Bah (2,725) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Hah, no. But that dude is hilariously sleazy.

    I actually got a pretty good deal on 2013 Abyss there.. $18. Not bad.
     
  24. RobinLee

    RobinLee Zealot (548) Feb 15, 2012 Wisconsin

    That's in keeping with other Trappist prices. Rochefort 10 goes for a bit less than $5 in my area, which is $20/4pk. Orval's even more expensive.
     
  25. Streaky

    Streaky Initiate (99) Mar 26, 2013 New Jersey

    Bourbon County 4-packs in Philly were 40 dollars after tax.

    Bourbon Biscotti Break was about 40 dollars A BOTTLE after tax.
     
  26. Benish

    Benish Meyvn (1,193) Mar 13, 2013 Wisconsin
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    In general, the answer to that question is when I flew from WI to PA. The prices of beer all over the state skyrocketed up!
     
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  27. jjdc

    jjdc Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2013 District of Columbia

    $30 for a Supplication. It was being sold out of the RR distro area in a D.C. store, but still quite a shock (I guess the store paid retail or had it specially shipped in or something). Brings up a related question to the original: Anyone willing to shell out for a hugely marked up beer that is on the shelf in your area, but not normally distributed there?
     
  28. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Is Rochefort 10 brewed 15 min away from you? Is it a pedestrian blond ale?
     
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  29. AAlchemist

    AAlchemist Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2012 Arizona

    Generally Bars and Resturants sell
    Wine for 1.5-3.5x more for Wine.
    They will change 4.0-7.0x more for Liquor

    Sounds like the applied the same pricing principals to beer which will could start to happen.
    There is a difference between take home and on site consumption prices

    Finally its not gouging.
     
  30. jucifer1818

    jucifer1818 Initiate (0) May 15, 2011 Florida

    at Miami international airport I saw them selling bud light for 7 bucks a pint. That seems a bit rich to me.
     
  31. Mshull

    Mshull Initiate (0) Mar 26, 2013 Ohio

    $5.99 per bottle of zombie dust at a local grocery store
     
  32. paulaner

    paulaner Initiate (74) Jan 10, 2004 Wisconsin

    My extra 1 euro I've been paying for a case of beer since 2006 here in Germany, I mean seriously I'm going broke over this.
     
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  33. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    It's a shame this took 35 posts to be said.

    I do get tired of the constant teeth-gnashing that goes on over beer prices on this site.

    Regarding the Eclipse beers--do people understand the project? They age the same base beer in several different types of bourbon cask over the same period of time so that the drinker can compare how the different varieties of bourbon impact the beer over time. As far as I'm aware, there isn't anything else out there quite like it, so you have to understand that a lot of the price is based on the uniqueness of the offering. Not all pricing is just a matter of calculating the cost of goods and labor to produce a given beer.

    Now, I haven't had Eclipse and likely won't since I'm skeptical that there will be enough detectable difference between the variants to make it worth the price, but I can't really say that what FiftyFifty is doing amounts to "gouging" and especially not the other descriptor that was misused on this thread: profiteering.

    It's easy how people can say that:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging

    The fact that something is limited and in high demand only matters in regards to price gouging if that thing is an essential consumer good. Like bottled water. Or food. Or in our modern, vehicle-dependent society, even gasoline/fuel.

    The only thing a brewery can do about "unethical" price "gouging" is strip that liquor store of their distribution allotment. It's not like there is some kind of legal recourse.

    EDIT: Sorry for piling on the terminology dogpile. I hadn't read all the way through the thread yet and just saw @F2brewers comment about bogging down the thread.
     
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  34. markdrinksbeer

    markdrinksbeer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    Local near me that usually has decent prices was selling singles of 120 minutes for $18.00.
     
  35. rozzom

    rozzom Meyvn (1,015) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Not drinking rare beer can kill you. Damn gougers know this, and prey on us poor geeks.
     
  36. kdlz

    kdlz Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2014 Ohio

    Where... I'm in cleveland and was buying bombers for 9 and pints at bars for right around the same..pumking that is.
     
  37. TdLJg

    TdLJg Initiate (0) Oct 6, 2011 Connecticut

    You know what else is irritating, when people don't read before they start writing. OP priced a 12 oz. bottle at a bar for $18. I bought a 4pk for $18 a month ago in NY so maybe the bar paid $2.25 a bottle.
     
  38. Gr1mmy77

    Gr1mmy77 Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2013 South Carolina

    Paid 22$ for a KBS 10' at the porter beer bar in Atlanta
     
  39. loafinaround

    loafinaround Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2011 New York

    IMO, some of the worst "profiteering" isn't really an obnoxiously high sticker price, although I'm aware that's the definition... it's dishonestly selling beer that's either past it's date, or almost past it's date at a full retail price.

    Because of those tactics, there is really only 1 store I trust for my DIPAs.... especially since I often have difficulty seeing and deciphering those obscure codes printed on bottle necks.

    As for traditional profiteering, as mentioned above by several people, there is a ton at bars. I tend to be lenient on them, however, due to overhead costs. I've spent $18 for a small bottle of several unusual mikkeller variants, with hesitation, of course. Then again, couldn't get them anywhere else, so I think it's expensive, but fair.
    Growlers aren't the bargain they seem to be on the surface for me, as I never have someone to split it with me that day, so the rest gradually loses fizz overnight.
     
  40. Strohsbeforehoes

    Strohsbeforehoes Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2013 Michigan

    Bcbs 59.99 washtenaw liquor ypsilanti mi. Lame.
     
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