What is your favorite BMC beer to drink?

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  1. Groulxsome

    Groulxsome Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2010 Ontario (Canada)

    I never quite understand these debates about the big brewers, probably because they tend (not always) conflate two different issues which beer drinkers (especially beer geeks) have with them.

    (1, Commodity) That Big Brewers are commodity-brewers who rely mostly on marketing (sometimes misleading the consumer into thinking they are drinking craft, like Blue Moon) and have a tendency to be hostile to local and smaller brewers. If you're the type of person who is into buying local either for environmental ("think local, act global") or economic (helping out your community, which brewers are a valuable part of) then this is the real problem with big brewers.

    (2, Taste) That Big Brewers make poor quality, low taste products with adjuncts that tend to lower the standard of beer drinking and reduce popular expectations as to what beer might be. If you're into drinking good beer and writing tasting notes, then this is likely going to be your problem with Big Brewers. So, Goose Island, for example, being bought out by Big Brewers isn't bad, in this case, as long as standards don't suffer.

    They are clearly inter-twined somewhat, as commodification and homogenization can damage the taste, but really, we need to be clear on why -exactly- we don't like big brewers, that is, if you don't like them. I'm concerned with local jobs and the brewery being a part of the community and taste, but, honestly, the community engagement is really important to me. If a big brewery seems really committed to that then I'm less concerned about their product, even if it is only ok. Though, again, I like good quality beer too, so it's hard to find a balance.

    Anyway, here is a little list of the "Big Brewers" to the best of my knowledge! It might be useful!

    World's Largest Brewers by Revenue

    (1) AB InBev (Keiths, Labatt Blue, Leffe, Hoegaarden, Bud Light, Beck's, Budweiser, Stella Artois) 2010 Revenue $36 billion USD.

    (2) Heineken International (Newcastle, Cruzcampo, Tiger Beer, Żywiec, Murphy’s, Heineken) 2010 Revenue $21 billion USD.

    (3) SABMiller (Grolsch, Miller Genuine Draft, Peroni Nastro Azzurro and Pilsner Urquel) 2011 Revenue $19 billion USD.

    (4) Carlsberg Group (Carlsberg, Tuborg, Kronenbourg) 2010 Revenue $10 billion USD.

    (5) Molson-Coors (Coors, Blue Moon, Carling, Caffrey's, Dos Equis, Molson, Creemore, Granville Island, Rickards) 2011 Revenue $5.2 billion USD.

    (Bonus #1) Diageo (Guinness, Tusker, Smithwick's, Red Stripe, Harp Lager, Kilkenny). Because they do other liquors/wines the comparison is not fair, but 2011 Revenue $13 billion USD.

    (Bonus #2) Sapporo Brewery (Unibroue, Sleeman, Sapporo) 2011 Revenue something like 5.5 Billion USD, but I cannot find the source I used for this one.
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  2. joeebbs

    joeebbs Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2009 Pennsylvania

  3. jacob4999

    jacob4999 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2008 Michigan

    Labatt Blue...First beer I got drunk off of when I was 16. Makes me kind of have a soft spot for it. I never buy it but when I'm offered one I don't turn it down.
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  4. John_M

    John_M Moderator (6,007) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    They had to free up space to make more Bud Light Platinum, would be my guess...
  5. Glass_Half_Full

    Glass_Half_Full Initiate (0) May 3, 2012

    PBR and Blue Moon
  6. StubFaceJoe

    StubFaceJoe Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2011 Colorado

    It isn't exactly BMC but I love a black and tan now and again. And if it's AAL you're after, it whichever one is on sale at the show I'm going to.
  7. Errto

    Errto Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2009 Connecticut

    I thought Labatt was owned by North American Breweries.
  8. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,255) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    The US rights to the Labatt brand are owned by NAB - still part of the A-BInBev empire in Canada.
  9. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

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  10. BigCheese

    BigCheese Defender (689) Jul 4, 2009 Massachusetts

    Hoegarden and newcastle.
  11. RattleheadKV2

    RattleheadKV2 Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2011 New Mexico

    I drink my fair share of Hoegarden during the summer, great Wit beer. And I'm also not afraid to pound down copious amounts of PBR when playing shows, or attending them. Can't beat $1.50 tallboys all night.
  12. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (388) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    A rare occurrence, but Schlitz. If there's no Schlitz, Pabst. If there's no Pabst, High Life, but by that point I'm more inclined to just drink water.
  13. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (388) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    The only time I ever seem to drink Pabst or Schlitz is in the company of local/small-time rock'n'roll. If it's likely I'll end up wearing half of my drink on my shirt, I drink cheap.
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  14. John_M

    John_M Moderator (6,007) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    "If it's likely I'll end up wearing half of my drink on my shirt, I drink cheap."

    This is probably the best reason I have ever heard for drinking BMC stuff.
  15. Groulxsome

    Groulxsome Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2010 Ontario (Canada)

    Ok, I'm confused about this Labatt thing. On NAB's website it says "Labatt Blue is imported daily from Canada." In Canada Labatt is brewed by AB-Inbev. Is NAB just selling the Canadian Blue or are they brewing their own version because they own the name rights in the US?

    My favorite adjunct-lager is Black Horse. One of Canada's (more so Quebec's) oldest and most iconic beers, now only brewed by Molson Newfoundland.
  16. Chaz

    Chaz Poo-Bah (1,933) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Optimator, Hamm's, and Keystone Ice.
  17. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,255) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Part of the deal InBev made with the US government to allow them to buy A-B without violating US anti-trust laws was to spin off the Labatt brand in the US - mostly because along the Great Lake states Labatt had a large share of the market and combining it with A-B brands would be anti-competitive.

    So, NAB bought the US rights to the brand, with the temporary agreement with the Feds that they could continue to import ABInBev-brewed Labatt for the first few years, but after that they'd also have to find another brewer OR brew it themselves. NAB choose (after apparently some pressure from their distributors who wanted it to continue to be an "Import") to continue to have it brewed in Canada and eventually picked---Molson --- (go figure, right? Most thought they'd go with the mostly choice- Sleeman) to brew it under license. NAB does brew some newer Labatt brands - which may be US only? - like Labatt Lime and a recent "heritage" series at their Rochester (Genesee) brewery, but the Blue and the Light continue to be imported from Canada, now brewed by Molson.

    Black Horse Ale from Dawes was once ('40's-'50s) a big Canadian import in the US. It eventually was brewed in the US by several breweries - supposedly because Carling (pre-Molson merger) let the US trademark lapse- by Fred Koch (NY), Diamond Springs (MA), Metropolis (NJ) and finally Genesee. It was among the most famous US ales, pre-craft era. Seems to have died after a few years after Genesee bought the Koch brands in the mid-80's. Obviously, with it being a lager now there's no connection to the US ale of the same name.
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  18. gustogasmic

    gustogasmic Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2012 Michigan
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    PBR, Labatt, High Life, in that order.

    Blech. Gotta stab a speedhole in it to make 'em go away FAST.
  19. imbrue001

    imbrue001 Aspirant (216) Aug 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I don't have time for BMC.
    Too many good beers to try.
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  20. Groulxsome

    Groulxsome Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2010 Ontario (Canada)

    Black horse is older then that even! It was a Quebec brand owned and brewed by Dawes since 1811. They were bought out by Dows brewery (another Quebec brewery) to form the Quebec giant National Breweries Limited in 1909. Canadian Breweries Limited (Taylor's bit of evil) bought out National in 1952, but kept the name "Dow" Black Horse Ale for both domestic and export markets. In 1962 Canadian Breweries Limited bought out a Newfoundland Brewery, Bennett Brewing Limited, and started production of Black Horse Ale in Newfoundland. Canadian Breweries Limited soon became Carling-O'Keefe, which, soon enough, became Molson, which, again, soon enough, became Molson-Coors. The brand that exists in Newfoundland is, at least in copyright and name, the same one. It's been lager-ized over the years and made to fit with Molson's portfolio in Newfoundland. To this day most Newfoundlander's will swear that it's a uniquely Newfoundland beer, without knowing how popular it's namesake once was thought North America. See the current bottle design and head sticker.


    Note the same horse, that same black horse, from the export label (it's a black horse porter picture, whatever, same horse).


    I have more information (old labels from the 1800's and 1900's) on this at http://nlbeerhistory.com if anyone is interested in this genealogy...
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  21. egomaniac667

    egomaniac667 Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2010 North Carolina

    There's not really any one I won't drink, but I've always liked Labatt Blue.
  22. John_M

    John_M Moderator (6,007) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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  23. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Zealot (506) May 13, 2007 South Carolina

    Great avatar, otisp! An underappreciated duo.
  24. diesel59

    diesel59 Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2012 New York

    genesee cream ale, PBR, or Coors original if you don' t count the first two...........
  25. Prospero

    Prospero Savant (953) Jul 27, 2010 Colorado
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    Not true, there is a Blue Moon Brewery as well as AC Golden, yes Coors owns them both and yes Coors brews Blue Moon, but there is indeed a Blue Moon Brewery where it began and still active.


    It's now called the Blue Moon Brewery at the Sandlot... I know I was just there on Sunday. And yes they brew beer there, no they don't brew Blue Moon there, but it is indeed a separate and active brewery.
  26. Reagan1984

    Reagan1984 Poo-Bah (2,161) May 15, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Michelob or Molson Export

    Michelob was the first beer my crew used to be able to get in H.S. I have no idea why that brand... (was happy to have anything)

    Molson Export since Dad and I shared one when I got from taking the SAT.. (many years ago)
    SO, both are based on nice memories.
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  27. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Defender (637) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    Right up there with the classic duos. Laurel & Hardy, Abbott & Costello, Bonnie & Clyde.
  28. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Poo-Bah (5,406) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    Good one! Ha!!!!!
  29. BrianTheBrewer30

    BrianTheBrewer30 Aspirant (211) Nov 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I am not a BMC drinker. I would drink a BMC over PBR any day of the week.
    The day I drink PBR I might as well put on skinny jeans, grab a pair of neon sunglasses, buy tickets to some awful unknown underground shitty band, roll my own cigs and say yaaaaaaaaa all the time.
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  30. imasloth

    imasloth Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 Texas

    Using BMC in its yellow fizzy beer denotation, Schlitz. I think I fell for their 1960s formula ploy ...
  31. BruceBruce

    BruceBruce Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2011 Texas

    So no Goose Island?
  32. cbutova

    cbutova Poo-Bah (3,474) Oct 10, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Haven't bought any in the last 2 or so years. If I am reaching for something "lighter" it usually ends up being Weihenstephaner Hefeweiss or Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.

    Also, if I am at a bar with no craft I usually end up buying PBR cans because they are fairly tolerable and usually like $2.50/16oz.
  33. BruceBruce

    BruceBruce Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2011 Texas

    BTW I am sitting on a throne of PBR that came out to over a literal ton of beer :slight_smile:
  34. hoplover888

    hoplover888 Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2010 Illinois

    i like them all...i dont understand the purpose of craft beer
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  35. RKPStogie

    RKPStogie Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2011 Minnesota
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    None. If I'm at a place with only BMC stuff, I usually get bourbon
  36. abcramer

    abcramer Disciple (348) Feb 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Extra Gold. To me, it seems more flavorable than most other BMC beers. Can actually detect some hops in there. Good icy cold on a hot summer day.
  37. BlackBelt5112203

    BlackBelt5112203 Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2012 Michigan
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    Nathaniel E. Light....think about it.
  38. djsmith1174

    djsmith1174 Disciple (343) Aug 21, 2005 Minnesota

  39. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    Highlife, Coors Light, King Henry, Hamms.
  40. ledzeppelin4

    ledzeppelin4 Initiate (0) May 18, 2011 Illinois

    By BMC, I'm guessing the OP means an American Adjunct Lager. So I'd have to go with High Life. Old Style and Leinenkugel Original were nice as well.
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