What makes a beer taste Metallic?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by fields336, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. fields336

    fields336 Nov 16, 2008 Virginia

    honest question, because any beer with even the slightest hint of metal turns me off and is a drain pour.. so far any Irish red and tonight a Duck Rabbit Brown ale.

    Cheers!
     
  2. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Feb 8, 2010 Illinois
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    Duck Rabbit beers just taste like that. Intentional?
     
  3. supercolter

    supercolter Apr 19, 2006 Wisconsin
    Beer Trader

    Oxidation or crappy water...

    http://kotmf.com/articles/flavor.pdf

    METALLIC CHARACTERISTICS: A harsh, metallic taste noted both
    on the tip of the tongue and the roof of the mouth. Can
    be felt throughout the tongue and mouth in large
    concentrations. Not desired in beer. Also described as
    tinny or bloodlike.
    CHEMISTRY: The ferrous ion (iron) and some organic
    compounds formed by hydrolysis of cereal lipids in grain,
    and oxidization of free fatty acids.
    HIGH RATE FROM PROCESS: Iron or mild steel in
    contact with beer; freshly-scrubbed stainless steel that
    has not been allowed to oxidize (passivation); improper
    filtering material; high iron content in water; poorly
    processed grain.
    REDUCTION: Use of stainless steel; low-iron water; use
    of citric acid to re-oxidize stainless that has been
    abrasively cleaned; use of filtering materials that are acid-
    washed to remove iron; use of fresh, high-quality grain
    malt.
     
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  4. kot1967

    kot1967 Sep 12, 2012 Russian Federation

    Metallic taste rather organic compounds function. Iron, copper just catalysts of oxidation processes. More over can oxidize not only the beer components, but also for example lipids in the mouth.
    2 ST, if earlier, this was not, I would tell your physician.
    My apologize for «non-еnglish» English:confused:
     
  5. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    Listening to Metallica while drinking?
     
  6. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    I've noticed that taste in some of the lesser Oktoberfest marzens (Leinenkegel's and SA to name a few)
     
  7. steveh

    steveh Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    I've already had 12 packs of both those this year and got no metallic character. It's possible you're drinking them too cold, masking the true flavors and letting an astringency or carb-bite to dominate.
     
  8. codysjb

    codysjb Jun 16, 2010 Prince Edward Island (Canada)
    Beer Trader

    Crappy Water,
    Every Magic Hat beer I've had has tasted metallic to me. I've tried seasonals and regulars and I just can't get over the metallic taste the water has, hence the reason I no longer drink Magic Hat.
     
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  9. lvoutlawjlh

    lvoutlawjlh Mar 15, 2012 Nebraska
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    1st metal beer I had: Zombie Dust. I was very disappointed. Had to trade for it and it was my first time trying it.

    Edit: I have tried it since then and it wasn't metallic. Might have been a freshness issue but who knows.
     
  10. beernut

    beernut Jun 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Don't lick metal before drinking.
     
  11. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    I will keep that in mind, but I've had 4-5 other marzens and I drink every beer at the same temp. I also noticed it in Newcastle Werewolf. If I have any of those again, I'll let them warm a bit and see if there's a difference.
     
  12. crossovert

    crossovert Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    I would say he was just tasting how horrible the leines is
     
  13. steveh

    steveh Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    Hah! Normally, I might agree, but I was pleasantly surprised by their Oktoberfest. Is it the best on the shelves? Hardly, but it wasn't so far gone from style as the Big Butt Doppelbock -- among a couple others.
     
  14. crossovert

    crossovert Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    i have one in my fridge, didn't buy it but maybe ill drink it...
     
  15. steveh

    steveh Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    Assuming you mean the Oktoberfest -- throw out any Big Butt. :D

    I had to work overtime on a Friday a couple weeks ago, so I didn't get to the good beer store like I'd hoped. Stopped in at the local grocery and they had zip for anything I really wanted. The Leinie's in 12 pack cans was on sale for some outrageously low price, so in my frustrated haze I caved. Surprise -- not so bad.

    No, I didn't guzzle from the can, poured properly into my small Willi Becker. And the cans lingered longer than most beers I buy, but I was still surprised by Jake and the brothers.
     
  16. GardenWaters

    GardenWaters Jan 8, 2012 Illinois

    I wonder if Dave Mustaine drinks these kind of beers. Anything Metallic seems to leave a bad taste in his mouth.
     
  17. Steeeve

    Steeeve Nov 16, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I get that taste from certain darker beers like dunkels and schwarzbiers, I'm guessing from the malts. I also get it from certain breweries, either from their hop varietals or water composition. 21st Amendment and Duck Rabbit are two that come to mind, in fact. I haven't had a single enjoyable Duck Rabbit beer to date.
     
  18. nc41

    nc41 Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I kinda agree, especially after the infection mess, I'm afraid to spend 10 bucks on anything they make.
     
  19. Providence

    Providence Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    A slight metalic taste in a pilsner is something I actually enjoy.
     
  20. Knapp85

    Knapp85 Dec 25, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    I've found that if you drink a beer right out the fridge when it's colder this flavor is more dominant. It seems that if I let the beer warm up a bit that flavor tends to go away. Maybe I'm crazy, I'm not sure.
     
  21. spoonhawk

    spoonhawk Dec 3, 2010 Iowa

    When you say metallic taste, do you mean the sort bright (for the lack of word) tangy flavor that one might pick up in an aggressive Russian Imperial Stout that also express ample amounts of burnt ashen flavor?
     
  22. FunkyMacGroovin

    FunkyMacGroovin Sep 22, 2009 California

    It might also be the cans in the case of 21A.
     
  23. knucks999

    knucks999 Sep 30, 2008 Colorado

    People have different sensitivity levels when it comes to tasting metallic in the sense of a high iron concentration. This most likely comes from a brewer who use DE filtration poorly.
     
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