What makes you a Beer Advocate?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Hanzo, Apr 9, 2013.

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  1. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (1,990) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
    Supporter Beer Trader

    If I run into people who show interest in/have questions regarding beer- whether it be at work, in the store, at the bar, at family or social functions, etc- damn straight I will strike up a friendly conversation, keep it positive, try to throw in a little context and education along the way. Sometimes those people will even take the next step; and that can be pretty rewarding. But you do have to know where to draw the line, and let people take things at their own pace, or even not at all. Crossing that line is where the proselytizing seems to come into play.

    Participating here is also important, I'd say. Especially when it comes to newcomers, who may feel overwhelmed, or not know where to begin. But even amongst the rest of us- if this remains a vibrant community, where we will have as many disagreements as agreements, then it can do nothing but help the whole of craft beer here and abroad.
  2. dan027

    dan027 Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Mainly I'm a sharer. I try and share as much beer with as many people that will enjoy it as possible, it seems selfish if I'm the only one that gets to have the good stuff! I don't try and convert people so much but just let it be known to friends, family and coworkers if they are looking for something else I may be able to help point them in a direction they may end up enjoying. I love beer and it's fun to share it with others especially when I can help turn them on to new things they otherwise may not have found.
  3. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    On the same page with the sentiment expressed here.

    But what many mean when they clearly say we have an active duty to go out and CONVERT and EDUCATE people who don't know better, that's when I think it goes too far. Sure, most of us will answer questions when asked. No disagreement there. It's when I'm somehow supposed to show up at parties and convert people, or convert that poor guy at the bar drinking a Natural Light from a frosty mug.... yeah no thanks.
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  4. dan027

    dan027 Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Couldn't agree more. I want this community to grow as much as anyone else, but this isn't the crusades and shouldn't be treated as such
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  5. Duffman929

    Duffman929 Aspirant (279) Nov 27, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I'm on here. I make fun of people. I've been temp banned.
  6. shuajw

    shuajw Aspirant (287) Aug 12, 2007 Georgia

    a magazine subscription
  7. Holmes698

    Holmes698 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

  8. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    I think some people confuse advocacy with "trying to convert" or being aggressive in beer discussions (chiming in on a beer to a stranger at a liquor store without them asking your advice, making a snarky joke like "oh so you like beer without taste" when someone orders a bud light etc. etc.). There is such a thing as quiet advocacy (participating in a bottle share, starting a bottle share as the OP did, helping an interested party learn more about craft, being "the beer guy" around the office, etc.). These things take little effort or exposure and are great ways of beer advocacy in my eyes. Another way to support craft beer is spending wisely. To me, great and effective advocacy is supporting breweries that promote the craft community and limiting the amount of money that goes to brewers that aren't actively promoting the craft community.
  9. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Crusader (752) Mar 2, 2008 Oregon
    Beer Trader

    I'm a beer advocate because I have the attention span of a squirrel while working and I need something to do.
  10. fx20736

    fx20736 Meyvn (1,010) Mar 7, 2009 New York

    I spend all my discretionary funds on beer. I make beeradvocate.com my most visited website. I tell everyone I know how great beer is.
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  11. jl28r1

    jl28r1 Zealot (511) Jan 10, 2011 Texas

    I think that anyone on the site who trades and does so because it is fun and enjoyable is an advocate. If you try to win the trade then you are just a douche who likes good beer.
    Obviously more goes into being an advocate than trading but it has been the bad/greedy traders who have made the most negative impact since I have been here.

    Cheers and trade fair!
  12. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Are you me?
  13. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 California
    Beer Trader

    I hope the fact that I have gaven 4 Caldera Moglis as extras......Thats a beer you trade FOR! not an extra...Still not enough know about it, so i give it as an extra...and it hurts every time i do.....

    I do realize I mention this beer quite often...
  14. fx20736

    fx20736 Meyvn (1,010) Mar 7, 2009 New York

    Nah, but I am a Sox fan.
  15. gshak

    gshak Zealot (510) Feb 20, 2011 Texas

    Not sure if I consider myself a BA, but I do share my cellar with other folks. Some like what they drink, some don't, but that's all cool. Atleast they realize that there's more to beer than supermarket, mass-produced, lagers. Regarding limited releases, I usually buy 1 or 2 tops nowadays. And that's the extent of my beer advocacy...
  16. woodchip

    woodchip Devotee (418) Jan 30, 2011 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    I'm not a Jehovah's Witness knocking on doors but if an opportunity presents itself, I'm more than happy to talk about beer with others.
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  17. VelvetExtract

    VelvetExtract Poo-Bah (3,163) Jan 10, 2010 Massachusetts

    I think about beer a lot. A scary lot.
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  18. AndyAvalanche

    AndyAvalanche Savant (994) Jun 16, 2008 Massachusetts

    I gave the bros my email adress and here I am....
  19. Vav

    Vav Aspirant (291) Jul 27, 2008 Illinois

    I give reach around.
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  20. DelMontiac

    DelMontiac Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2010 Oklahoma

    I feel like am. I conduct tastings at parties for the beer blind. I drink about 25% of what I buy and share the rest. (Damn, I really do spend a lot on beer.)
  21. Sparty2014

    Sparty2014 Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2013 Michigan

    It is satisfying to introduce somebody to a beer you really like and, the majority of the time, they agree.

    Even better when they are not regular beer drinkers, of any type
  22. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Defender (602) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota
    Beer Trader

    I promote beer to my friends and family.

    But I think the single most important thing I've done as a BA is to convert my wife.
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  23. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Poo-Bah (2,459) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    I agree except that we don't have to call it "quiet advocacy" because that concedes that proselytizing is advocacy, when it is isn't in my opinion. Going out of one's way to talk to strangers is just obnoxious extroversion as far as I'm concerned.
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  24. BigOldOaf

    BigOldOaf Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2011 Massachusetts

    I always try to spread the word of good beer without being pushy, intrusive, or snobby. I remember when I worked at Applebee's I was talking to this one dude who didn't enjoy beer. I told him "there's a beer out there for everyone," and that's something I firmly believe. I wound up grabbing him a six pack of a fruitier beer when I had a few extra bucks and he wound up enjoying it! I also try to educate if people seem interested. Anything about styles, glassware, food pairing, history, whatever, I just want people to have exposure to our growing culture of craft beer in whatever capacity that may be.

    I can also safely say that I've influenced many of my friends to try craft beers. Back when I was 21, I started buying a different six pack every time I went to the beer store. After a while I began cutting out the side of the six packs and pasting them on a long, blank wall in my apartment that eventually earned the name "the beer wall." My roommate got in on the fun and after one year we had just about 200 different beers, no repeats. My friends would always come over and marvel at the variety before them. And since my fridge was always full of craft beer(at the very least, Yuengling), they tried them with me!

    Cheers to beer advocacy!
  25. THEcorky

    THEcorky Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2011 Illinois

    My big heart. My vast knowledge of beer, and my refreshing modesty.
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  26. Vonstein15

    Vonstein15 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2010 Ohio

    It's satisfying just to talk to random customers when the pick up something and then wonder if they are making a good decision. I find them very receptive on any comments.I find 95% of people are friendly and never worry about the 5% that are nasty no matter what they are doing.Cheers
  27. kell50

    kell50 Meyvn (1,040) Jul 25, 2007 North Carolina

    The best way to spread beer cheer, is to share recommendations for all to hear.
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  28. Spaghett

    Spaghett Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 California

    I'm the go to guy amongst my friends and family when they have beer questions. I also have them try new beers. Except they can give two shits for the most part and probably do it to humor me. I also brew beer wit ma brew homie. ya we tyte.
  29. Uniobrew31

    Uniobrew31 Zealot (544) Jan 16, 2012 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    I have appropriate beer glasses for 7 Styles of beer that take up a "causes the occasional need to passionately defend my beer glass needs to my wife" amount of space on my kitchen cupboards. It's a constant war!
  30. superspak

    superspak Poo-Bah (8,828) May 5, 2010 Michigan
    Supporter Beer Trader

    I'm the one who drinks and rates all the beer no one else will buy on here. I've found some delicious examples of a wide variety of styles as a result. I have 45 different glasses, including pokal and lager glasses; because Helles/Bock/Schwarzbier etc are underrated.
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  31. StubFaceJoe

    StubFaceJoe Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2011 Colorado

    I drink beer and post pictures of it.
  32. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,188) Mar 18, 2010 California

    My knuckle tats that say TICK BEER.
  33. DaftCaskBC

    DaftCaskBC Meyvn (1,115) May 7, 2011 British Columbia (Canada)

    I am a member of CAMRA.

    I have traded across borders to try more than 50% of the top 100.

    I educate people on locally available craft beers that they would enjoy based on their palate.

    I brew my own 13.2 gallon batches for my family and friends of many different styles.
  34. JMurphy41

    JMurphy41 Aspirant (248) Aug 7, 2012 Illinois

    First post here - howdy.

    I consistently see people praising themselves (and others) for leaving rare brews on the shelves for others to try. I've always kind of been irked by that. But when I picked up my one bottle allotment of KBS at Binny's in Lincoln Park (Chicago) last week, I found some justification for feeling that way.

    I saw a group of three fellas who were very clearly already a bit cheery for the evening walk in as the last of us who waited in line got our bottles. They walked up and asked what all the fuss was about, and the gentlemen who was handing out the bottles simply said something about it being "Founders KBS" to which the three guys asked, "is it beer?". They were told that.. yes, it is in fact a beer.. and they each bought one bottle.

    I understand there could be two sides to this story, and maybe they went home and enjoyed the hell out of their KBS and maybe it changed their beer-drinking lives forever. But I've got to say, I'd really rather see those three bottles go to someone else - in, say, a 4-pack instead of (1) 12 oz allotment - who can share it with their friends. I just feel like it's better that a special beer like that be enjoyed with at least one person who can help you properly enjoy the beverage. I don't know.
  35. ObeMaltKinobee

    ObeMaltKinobee Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2010 Illinois

    Making money off of a website
  36. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Michigan

    You should be careful who you do this with die hard BMC fans will drain pour some real gems someone poured one of my Plead The 5ths said it was too dark and something must be wrong with it:slight_frown:
  37. HumphreyLee

    HumphreyLee Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I buy six packs all the time for the express purpose of taking them to work to see if anyone else wants to try it out as well. I've put a fresh bottle of something new on my boss's desk every other day for two weeks. Most times I have a bomber of something, unless it's just THAT GOOD I only drink half and cork it to take to a coworker so he can try it out. Any time we have a get together for sports I probably load up $100 worth of bombers to bring and sample amongst ourselves. And I've been bringing the hot girl at work free stuff because who doesn't want to be the one who got the hot girl at work hooked on craft beer?
  38. Darwin553

    Darwin553 Initiate (67) Jan 5, 2009 Australia

    As a bottle shop worker, everytime I work I try to convert the macro drinkers on to craft beer.
  39. themind

    themind Defender (696) Mar 14, 2011 New Jersey

    At my work place I am know as " the beer guy " I love to share unique brews with commercial beer drinkers. It has caught on here quickly and guys now bring me brews that I have yet to try including home brews along with glassware from places they have visited since being introduced.
  40. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    in my 6+ years of active involvement in craft beer I have:

    * helped lobby for, and pass, legislation increasing Alabama's permissible beer ABV from 6% to 13.9%
    * helped lobby for, and pass, legislation allowing taprooms
    * helped lobby for, and pass, legislation increasing the permissible beer container size from 16 to 25.4oz
    * travelled to the legislature to testify at multiple committee meetings on the subject of beer
    * been interviewed multiple times by newspaper, radio, and TV on the subject of beer
    * assisted in conducting the Magic City Brewfest reaching 5000+ people each time it is put on (entering its 7th year)
    * conducted more beer tastings in grocery or package stores than I can remember
    * conducted more beer dinners than I care to remember
    * had more conversations with random customers in beer stores than I care to remember
    * carried Alabama beers to multiple Dark Lord Days to share with other beer aficionadoes

    So, yeah, I have pretty much eat, breathed, and slept craft beer for over 6 years.
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