What type of beer defect could cause this flavor?

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  1. beerinmaine

    beerinmaine Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2009 Maine

    Over in the Night Stalker thread there's been a lot of talk of the beer being "infected", but the chief complaints have been a flavor of soy or teriyaki, which are not typical signs of infection as described, for example, here:

    So, in the abstract and assuming this is not a flavor the brewer desired, what type of defect could cause it?
  2. Horbar

    Horbar Zealot (560) Feb 24, 2012 Rhode Island

    Oxidation or an unsanitary bottle maybe.
  3. LeRose

    LeRose Meyvn (1,269) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Is Night Stalker bottle conditioned?
  4. kell50

    kell50 Meyvn (1,138) Jul 25, 2007 North Carolina

    "Soy sauce" off flavors can sometimes occur when yeast has died (or is decomposing) in the bottle and the beer is basically dying.
  5. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Poo-Bah (5,497) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
    Premium Member Beer Trader

    Tried Nightstalker a few years ago and it tasted like PVC on the back end, won't be any time soon that I'll buy it again.
  6. jklinck

    jklinck Initiate (192) Jul 23, 2007 Washington

    I know from homebrewing that leaving beer on the main yeast cake can cause autolysis. But can it becaused by the thin layer that will be present from bottle conditioning?
  7. vacax

    vacax Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2008 California
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    Could be the fading flavor of the dry hopping is seen as an off-flavor when combined with the roastiness. Typically people don't age beers with lots of dry hopping.
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  8. MikeB20

    MikeB20 Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2009 Delaware

    That's enough to keep me from being excited. :grinning:
  9. leedorham

    leedorham Crusader (701) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Autolysed yeast produces glutamates and amino acids, which are the type of compounds that give soy sauce its savory character. So soy sauce character in beer is largely attributed to yeast autolysis.
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  10. danoeltico

    danoeltico Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2011 North Carolina
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    My wife thinks anything BBA tases like soy sauce
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  11. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Poo-Bah (5,497) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    I'm probably due to try it again, maybe it was the batch?
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