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What's the longest expired beer you've seen on a shelf?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BlueRogue, Apr 28, 2012.

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  1. OregonHopmonster

    OregonHopmonster Jan 15, 2011 Oregon
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    I saw one bottle of the Boulder GABF 25th Anniversary beer- http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/130/32473- on the shelf at John's Marketplace in Portland in early fall 2012. This is an ESB from 2007! The label was pretty trashed.
     
  2. stealth

    stealth Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota
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    There's a GI Demolition sitting on a shelf here in town that has a bottling date of early 2010, lol.
     
  3. TNGabe

    TNGabe Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    I scored some 2005 Stille Nacht and Westmalle Dubbel earlier this year and both are great. Dulle Teve, Bos Keun, Petrus Oud Bruin from 05 were all still drinkable. 09 3 Philosophers at same shop, also pretty good. Still have some Chimay Blue and Rocherfort 8 from the same shop and around the same time to enjoy.
     
  4. kempshark

    kempshark Jul 22, 2009 Florida

    On Thursday I picked up a bottle of Mephistopheles bottled in November 2007. Took it and some other older bottles I had (Chimay Red I've had aging for the last three years) to a beer release I went to on Saturday. Actually, the Chimay was awesome. The Mephistopheles had aged well but was still a monster of a beer. Incredible depths of flavor, but a definite sipper.....glad I was sharing 12oz with two other people.
     
  5. mellowmark

    mellowmark Mar 31, 2010 Minnesota
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    Mephistopheles would not be expired after 2 years. That beer could sit in proper conditions for a couple decades before it starts to turn south.
     
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  6. BarryMFBurton

    BarryMFBurton Mar 28, 2011 Indiana

    Saw a bomber of Stone Ruination that was so old it looked like a snowglobe; floaties everywhere. I told the cashier about it and he said, "Actually, that's bottle conditioned. That's just the yeast."

    Sure, buddy. Sure.
     
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  7. Siggy125

    Siggy125 Nov 10, 2006 California
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    Is there really such a thing as expired beer? We all see older dates which means it's not "fresh".
     
  8. mellowmark

    mellowmark Mar 31, 2010 Minnesota
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    Expired beer would be beer that is past the date give by the brewery to consume. If there isn't a date there's no way to know.
     
  9. Siggy125

    Siggy125 Nov 10, 2006 California
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    I get that. I just don't remember ever seeing "exp" next to a date on any bottles that I've had. Maybe a BMC in the old days.
     
  10. paulytasker

    paulytasker May 16, 2012 New York
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    Was in a Wegmans in Rochester, N.Y. yesterday and saw numerous I.P.A.'S & Pale Ales all with brewed on's from 2011 or early 2012.... discouraging for me because i'm from the area and they by far carry the biggest selection of craft brews in this part of state. I e-mailed both the store and the breweries involved to kindly make them aware.
     
  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Yeah, it's pretty rare to see the term "Expire" on a beer date, but within the industry the "best before" method of dating (i.e., vs. "bottled on") is typically called the "pull date" - the date the beer should be pulled off the shelf and returned/destroyed. So that pretty close to "expiring" - certainly suggests that it shouldn't be on the shelf and being offered for sale to the public. It used to be grounds for losing an AB distributorship when a wholesaler was found to have old beer on their retailers' shelves.
     
  12. BedetheVenerable

    BedetheVenerable Sep 5, 2008 Missouri

    Some Gale's Conquest from 2001, and Prize Old Ale going back to the mid-1990s. Would have the potential, if stored well, to still be drinkable, but with those damned corks (as nice as they are, cap the bottles too, a la Lindemans/some other Belgian producers) mean the beers are ultra-oxidized, papery, and flat as a pancake. Take them off the shelf already, or sell 'em for 2-3 bucks for the awesome bottles at least.
     
  13. BedetheVenerable

    BedetheVenerable Sep 5, 2008 Missouri

    Also, if I'm reading the cryptic date codes accurately, ALL the Samuel Smith (minus Stingo and Winter Welcome, which have vintage dates) available in central Missouri are from 2011. This is why I only buy Stingo and Winter Welcome, despite loving some of the others...
     
  14. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania

    This is common practice for almost any place I shop at. I am always digging through the top 2 cases to get to the fresh on on the bottom. As long as you know what to dig for its not that big of a deal.
     
  15. GardenWaters

    GardenWaters Jan 8, 2012 Illinois

    Boulevard beers (often at least 2 years) and HopDevil. Always wanted to try fresh HopDevil, but everytime I see it, it's covered in dust.
     
  16. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    The Mephistopheles will be fine for the next 10 years though...
     
  17. jesskidden

    jesskidden Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Pretty sure the importer, B. United, was still selling and distributing those beers long after they were bottled (and, IIRC, even after Gale's shut down a few years back) as part of their "Vintage" collection, so one can't simply blame the retailer or local distributor in that case. It wasn't unusual to find some stores with a number of different vintages of POA that had obviously been received at the same time - so apparently B. United never thought they had "expired" and they still have a picture of a couple of bottles in their Vintage section and pages for the individual beers - Prize Old Ale and Conquest.
     
  18. lonewolfcry

    lonewolfcry Dec 7, 2007 Minnesota
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    I just bought a 4 pack of 2008 Three Philosophers - not good, extremely flat & musty...luckily my store gave me a refund.

    I also got 2008 Pannepot & 2009 BCBS

    I'm hoping the Pannepot is still good.
    Doing a vertical 2012 & 2009 of BCBS with family over the holidays...
     
  19. JRod1969

    JRod1969 Nov 23, 2010 New York

    I have a shop near me that still has these. Every six months or so I buy one. Not too bad.
     
  20. THEcorky

    THEcorky Jan 9, 2011 Illinois

  21. mcrago

    mcrago Oct 6, 2012 Indiana

     
  22. pitweasel

    pitweasel Jun 11, 2007 New York

    That's not expired...that's still got a year or two before it's at its prime drinking age.
     
  23. TNGabe

    TNGabe Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    Found some 09 Three Phils 750s this year that were much better than fresh IMO

    What's the advantage of cap and cork over either alone? I was lucky enough to have 98, 97, & 89 JW Lees earlier this week. 3oz pours of the newer vintages were fantastic, but the 89 got dumped. I could tell it was still when I popped the cap. So a cap alone won't necessarily keep a beer fresh, but will a cap keep the cork moist enough to be efective where a crown lets the cork dry out?
     
  24. Plasmamonkey

    Plasmamonkey Mar 8, 2012 Japan

    I found a case of Goose Island Pere Jacques from '10 about a week ago. Bought the whole thing, popped one open, and it was amazing. Super smooth and balanced, without the overtly fruity flavors that appear when fresh.
     
  25. Siggy125

    Siggy125 Nov 10, 2006 California
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    I just pulled a DFH Burton Baton out of the cellar with an 11/28/11 bottle date on it. It may not be the same beer it was a year ago. But it's still F-in delicious.

    I sure hope the FBP, (fresh beer police), don't arrest me.
     
  26. BedetheVenerable

    BedetheVenerable Sep 5, 2008 Missouri

    Complete sleeper...GI Pere Jacques, though still an 'American' take on the style, is absolutely BRILLIANT w/2-3 years on it...one of my favorite dubbels for sure...the toasted bread and caramel notes meld with a lighter fruitiness (dissipates w/age) to make a DAMN delicious dubbel, and for a good price!
     
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  27. Sourkehd

    Sourkehd Dec 10, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Belgian lager that expired in 2002 amongst a million other expired products. The utter negligence of that store did lead me to some amazingly old sours though. Give/take until the goodies are gone.
     
  28. Keffa

    Keffa Jan 8, 2009 Ohio
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    If it's been kept well, it shouldn't be bad. I thought the bottle I opened was decent...
     
  29. JRod1969

    JRod1969 Nov 23, 2010 New York

    Here was my Rueben and the Jets review from last April...

    4/14/12 - Pours a murky brown near black with medium high light to medium tan creamy near pancake head. Smells fantastic with tons of caramel and almost like a non-hoppy barleywine. I am very excited due to the caramel nose. The taste is almost exactly like a barleywine and continues to have solid caramel. It is malty and very enjoyable. The feel is medium. If I didn't know I would have thought this was a barrel aged barleywine and that is good. The aftertaste leaves some sweetness and some heat. Not the most complex barleywine flavor, but very enjoyable.
     
  30. Keffa

    Keffa Jan 8, 2009 Ohio
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    Too bad it was a Double/Imperial Stout :p
     
  31. JRod1969

    JRod1969 Nov 23, 2010 New York

    Not anymore.
     
  32. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Jul 4, 2008 Ohio

    I bought Brooklyn's Monster Ale from 2010 this year when I found it on the shelf at a store that's now closed. They had a LOT of older stuff, great for somethings but NOT others, obviously. Shame the store closed but they were in a dying shopping plaza finally getting pushed out by the bigger grocery store chains.
     
  33. BoneyardBrewer

    BoneyardBrewer Apr 24, 2005 Michigan

    Found a few bottles of JW Lee's Harvest 2004 thru 07 back in 2010
     
  34. zac16125

    zac16125 Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    My girlfriend picked me up some beers recently and one was a Rogue XS Imperial IPA. Shes not a beer drinker herself and didnt think to look at the dates (although shes generally really good at picking me out beers), it turned out to be greater than 2 years old. And man was it bad. My first and only drain pour. My issue was, this was from a massive liquor store, that does a huge business. I cant imagine it sitting on the shelf for the whole 2 plus years. Im guessing they found it lying around in the back or something and threw it on the shelves. Some kinda shady move.
     
  35. brianthelion23

    brianthelion23 May 21, 2012 California

    2010 sierra nevada summerfest still at a local shop and accidentally bought a 2010 deschutes hop trip blah
     
  36. HarrySTruman

    HarrySTruman May 16, 2012 Michigan

    since unibroue has expiration dates, I have seen a don de dieu that was 3 years expired. then I bought it... (it wasn't good)
     
  37. BladeRunner

    BladeRunner Apr 4, 2007 Illinois
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    8 yr old Rochefort 10.
     
  38. Rinkor16

    Rinkor16 Dec 12, 2011 California
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    There's a deli up the street from where I work. They have Lagunita's Sucks from last year...
     
  39. PsilohsaiBiN

    PsilohsaiBiN Aug 10, 2010 New York
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    I have some from July '11 that I need to bust out soon. Thanks for the reminder.
     
  40. lonewolfcry

    lonewolfcry Dec 7, 2007 Minnesota
    Beer Trader

    I know - I asked if they had anything in the back room.
    The guy I asked said no, but another employee said he had something & he came back with the 2009 BCBS bomber - $14
    I just paid the man & left quietly... wondering what the hell just happened!
     
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