What's wetting the whistle P.4

Discussion in 'Australia / Oceania' started by Gasc0igne, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. sinkas

    sinkas Initiate (160) Jul 9, 2008 Australia
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    Boston Brewery Devilslide Red IPA is well worth a look, much better than their other pretty crappy offerings, its like 90% as good as Cheeky monkey Imperial monk,
    with a 1%abv less and quite well priced at $30 a sixer ( atleast herein WA)
     
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  2. Ostpies

    Ostpies Initiate (75) Nov 3, 2015 New Zealand (Aotearoa)

    Anything worthwhile that's bottled or canned in NSW at the moment? Wife is heading over for work this weekend.
     
  3. Narkee

    Narkee Initiate (101) Jun 20, 2013 Australia

    St Henry at Wildflower. The latest Amber is also fantastic.
     
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  4. Mountain_high_book

    Mountain_high_book Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2014 Australia

    I'm not a big fan of the current trend of brewers trying to make imperial stouts taste like a dessert or coffee rather than a beer by adding all sorts of adjuncts but the Prairie/Evil Twin Bible Belt Imp Stout that is doing the rounds at the moment is amazing and successfully avoids this trend.

    Tastes like a big, decadent and complex imp stout but with a balanced and subtle use of cocoa nibs, chilli, coffee, vanilla, so it still tastes like a stout and avoids being too sweet. Drinks way easier than 13%

    Bought a can of Liberty 'Yakima Monster' pale ale today and noticed the can said it was brewed in Australia. You guys may already know but I found it interesting that New Zealand brewery Liberty are now brewing beers from Hawkers brewery in Reservoir, Victoria!
     
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  5. Twinathon

    Twinathon Initiate (40) May 1, 2013 Australia

    Sixpoint's Alpenflo and the Weihenstephaner/Sierra Nevada collab. Both outstanding.
     
  6. Ostpies

    Ostpies Initiate (75) Nov 3, 2015 New Zealand (Aotearoa)

    Thanks for the suggestion, really enjoyed this.
     
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  7. hawthorne00

    hawthorne00 Initiate (80) Nov 23, 2010 Australia

    Is the Weihenstephaner / Sierra Nevada Braupakt going to be a permanent addition to the range? It seems widely available. Didn't love it myself, but I can see why people would.

    I've wondered a bit where Where Strides the Behemoth has been, but it is back and in cans. Still fun.

    A few hazy and hoppy things I've liked recently: Collective Arts The Mothership, Revision Gimme da Loot, Dainton Blood Orange New England Rye IPA. Not at all sure that the Dainton one is an IPA of any sort let alone a NEIPA, but it's a lovely drop.

    A couple of recent disappointments: Little Creatures The Fuggle is Real is gutless; BrewDog Indie Pale Ale is a credibility buster.

    A few things I liked - a couple of pricey small glasses of Hill Farmstead/ Grassroots saisonish things were enough to convince me that yes, they are pretty good. And the De Ranke Vielle Provision (their component of Cuvee de Ranke) and their unusual Back to Black (it's strong, dark, sour, woody and bitter) were very lovely.

    Bridge Rd continues to crank out lots of beers, most of which I think are pretty good and quite interesting.
     
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  8. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (370) Oct 6, 2013 Australia

    Brewdog still had credibility?
     
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  9. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (370) Oct 6, 2013 Australia

    Finally gave the Old Pumping Station from Mornington Peninsula a go.

    Had quite a bit of time to sit, bottle 423/750. I'm pretty darn happy with how this thing ended up. Super chocolate-forward, lots of roast (but not super bitter/overpowering like Murrays), nice hint of dark fruit/berry, a little thin but more than made up for it with the creaminess of the mouthfeel. No aroma or taste of the ABV.

    Probably not worth 30-40 bucks, but it's very clearly Mornington Peninsula Imp Stout amped up and barrel aged. Certainly approachable and enjoyable, worth grabbing for a good price.

    In comparison, why was Hawker's BBA Stout so disappointing the three times I tried it over 2 years? Fads seem to be more and more pervasive nationally.
     
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  10. Twinathon

    Twinathon Initiate (40) May 1, 2013 Australia

    Mornington Imperial stout is one of my go to local RIS'. It hits all the marks of a RIS without focusing too much on one aspect.

    Could not agree more on Hawkers' BBA RIS. Huge let down last year.
     
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  11. sinkas

    sinkas Initiate (160) Jul 9, 2008 Australia
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    I thought the Fuggle is real was ok, I was expecting worse,
     
  12. Narkee

    Narkee Initiate (101) Jun 20, 2013 Australia

    Cool that Carwyn got in bottles of Hill Farmstead. I was at their event for GBW and it was ridiculously good. Will be hard to have a better line up of beer in Australia ever again imo.
     
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  13. Benjo87

    Benjo87 Initiate (117) Dec 27, 2014 Australia

    Guys get your hands on Buxton/ommipollo yellow belly sundae if possible. Absolutely incredible desert beer. Expensive, but well worth it.
     
  14. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (370) Oct 6, 2013 Australia

    Both Yellow Belly and that other crazy Omnipollo Noa dessert stout don't seem to get distro to shitty Canberra; if more people here reach consensus on their quality I'll trade someone for 'em.

    Does Yellow Belly have a proper full body? Is ot full of artificial dessert flavours?
     
  15. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (370) Oct 6, 2013 Australia

    What sort of availability do they have? I'd imagine, without looking it up, they almost immediately sell out. But maybe most Aussies are still clueless :wink:
     
  16. hawthorne00

    hawthorne00 Initiate (80) Nov 23, 2010 Australia

    They sold out very quickly, but they had notified those on their mailing lists early. I passed on the bottles. The tap Hill Farmstead/ Grassroots beers hung around a while (more than a week) ~$15 for 150ml will do that. The rest of the taplist wouldn't have been compelling enough for me to drive across town (but I am a homebody who thinks there is not a lot of signal in high ratings for strong American beers).
     
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  17. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (370) Oct 6, 2013 Australia

    $15 for 150mL!? That's genuinely shocking. No way I'm supporting that.

    To your final point, I've definitely noticed the vastly increased prevalence over the past few years of the so-called "Limited" brews throughout the U.S. The issue is, many breweries saw the success of something like Dark Lord Day or one of the other well regarded events/releases and immediately thought "we can do that"; except in most cases we just see an overly hyped and increasingly strong range of beers winking at consumers promising to be the next Toppling Goliath whale or some hazy juice bomb.

    Okay, I'm sure some of these beers are very high quality and enjoyable, but when your entire business model is "we have shit beers but we do this crazy limited release each winter that is all show and no substance", I don't want to touch your product. Seems the public don't give a shit either way, or are just happy to buy up and trade to morons for good beer.

    I smell market saturation.
     
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  18. danieelol

    danieelol Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    Just drinking the braupakt now. Enjoying it.

    Also liked the Akasha Sequioa and the (Hawkers? brewed) Yakima Monster
     
  19. danieelol

    danieelol Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    Yes and yes.
     
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  20. danieelol

    danieelol Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    Enjoying the 4 pines El Dorado...
     
  21. danieelol

    danieelol Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    the West Coast Red Rye IPA is rather good too...
     
  22. danieelol

    danieelol Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    Akasha The Mountain is also good...
     
  23. danieelol

    danieelol Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    Hop Nation sure know how to make an IPA...

    Probably closest thing you're going to get to a modern IPA in Aus to be honest, hoppy aromas but sweet and full body.

    (The Chop)

    There's a reason Americans like this style
     
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  24. Narkee

    Narkee Initiate (101) Jun 20, 2013 Australia

    Couldn't agree with you more on Hop Nation. The Chop is a fantastic beer!
     
  25. danieelol

    danieelol Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    Old Stock 2014

    Ye Ole Oxidised Figs and Brown Sugar. Works well though.
     
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  26. danieelol

    danieelol Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    tackling the 4 pines imperial ipa

    apple-y, quite boozy. preferred the el dorado and west coast rye.
     
  27. danieelol

    danieelol Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    hope super juicy

    surprisingly good even though it's no longer summer (seems to be a relatively fresh batch though)
     
  28. hawthorne00

    hawthorne00 Initiate (80) Nov 23, 2010 Australia

    I guess that would. I meant to keep some but am weak. Is there no North Coast here now?

    I didn't mind the Hope Super Juicy either. I still find it impossible to tell ahead of time (even by looking at what other people think) whether I'm going to like these NEIPAs.

    Anyone have any reports/ opinions on the next fad down the block: Brut IPA? I had the Wolf of the Willows/ Ale of a Time one and didn't much care for it but thought it kind of matched descriptions of the sub-style.

    Recent much-liked (+ new to me):
    Goose Island Gillian - sweetish strong saison but nice
    Modus Op Silent Knight - nicely-weighted no-tricks porter
    Moon Dog Black Lung and Truffled porter - just when you think they're out...
    2 Birds Bright Copper Kettles - coiled, witty, skilled.
    Boatrocker House Red - very plausibly Flemish
    Oatmeal Yeti - could be something in these variants
    Garage Project Unconditional Love -not new, but v good and fresh clean bitter IPA
    Modern Times Avalon - a NEIPA I _really_ liked.
     
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  29. sinkas

    sinkas Initiate (160) Jul 9, 2008 Australia
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    Had Hop Nation " The kalash" 2018
    thought it was pretty thin and boozy, seem most aussie RIS are too thin to me

    I had the Wolf of willows Brut ipa,
    I guess it was what it said it would be,but cant find much to like about it.
     
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  30. Twinathon

    Twinathon Initiate (40) May 1, 2013 Australia

    Stomping Ground keep kicking goals. Their RIS is prettying tastey. A little flat at the end but has good body and a great entry.
     
  31. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (370) Oct 6, 2013 Australia

    Popping in again to complain.

    I haven't been so disappointed in a Stout of any sort in a very, very long time.

    I bought (for a pretty penny mind you) 2 bottles of Wig & Pen's first proper bottling of their once-legendary Russian Imperial Stout. Now I never got the chance to have it on-tap back when it was still headed by Richard, so I didn't have anything to directly compare it to, but boy was I in for a shock.

    Big ol' wax-sealed heavy bottle, kept it safely stored in a cool and dark room for ~5 months? Was planning on holding onto it for a year or two but oh well...no more beating around the bush, the thing was garbage, as close to drinking soy sauce as I've experienced with any beer. Nose had the slightest hint of chocolate, but was totally drowned out by meaty and ashy aromas. In the glass it looked fantastic, massive fluffy mocha head, great glass-coating liquid. At just below room temp, I struggled to find anything past the soy; after it warmed up over an hour or so I got the tiniest flash of dull coffee, and the only positive - really nice milk chocolate.

    The bottle promised dark dried fruits and berries, the flat acidity that eventually popped up made the already-pungent soy even worse. I was actually trying to rinse my mouth between sips because of how long the shit stayed in my mouth.

    Done with Wig & Pen, what a travesty.
     
  32. Narkee

    Narkee Initiate (101) Jun 20, 2013 Australia

    Sucks to hear.

    On the flip side, I had a Red Hill Imperial Stout a couple of months back and this is one of the finest Australian examples of the style. Velvety mouthfeel with lots of chocolate and nice balancing roast. I find a lot of imperial stouts have an intense roasty bitterness at the back of the palate but this was perfectly balanced. I would happily take this overseas for people to try.
     
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  33. sinkas

    sinkas Initiate (160) Jul 9, 2008 Australia
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    Had Cheeky Monkey Silverback RIS , and barrel variants
    overall thought the Cabernet barrel was the best,still think the base beer itself a bit too thin,
    but the flavours where pretty good,the Spiced rum version wasn't great.
    Had recent Jedi Juice, tasted far too Grapefruity for me,not like the ones I drank around xmas
    Colonial Inquest Imp porter: really tasty, like a huge black ipa, and well priced
    Rocky ridge: ISCREAM,
    not quite sure what it was but seemed like a nice hoppy summer pale,
    really tasty, I assumed from the name it had lactose in it,but its not mentioned on the lable..
    Nail Red: not had one in years,not bad,but soupy
    Billabong brewing "Blazed" hemp seed black IPA, bloody delicious
    21st amend beers from DTC: stale AF...must not buy imprted IPA's...its not 2002 anymore....
    also from DTC 2 crows brett saision form nova Scotia, bloody excellent
     
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  34. heygeebee

    heygeebee Poo-Bah (1,568) Aug 6, 2010 Australia

    just had a CBS - waaaaay better than this years' KBS - really not sure what happened with KBS this time round - backed up by how long it stayed on the shelves...
     
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  35. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (370) Oct 6, 2013 Australia

    Gonna have to give Hop Nation a go, avoided local IPAs like the plague for years now. Also used to see that bottle of Red Hill Imp Stout on the shelves and always ignored it, you've convinced me. What else is hot right now then? Ignoring all the sour fad garbage.

    Finished the case of Brew One Thousand from Bridge Road yesterday, super upset to see it go - such a solid local stout.
     
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  36. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (370) Oct 6, 2013 Australia

    Apparently Brew Two Thousand is not far away, boy am I hoping it's as good as previous iteration!
     
  37. sinkas

    sinkas Initiate (160) Jul 9, 2008 Australia
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    had Growling Jack a Belgian IPA from White rabbit,
    was really enjoyable
     
  38. hawthorne00

    hawthorne00 Initiate (80) Nov 23, 2010 Australia

    It was everything I didn't expect from White Rabbit - both good and bad. It's punchy but for me a little crude.

    I was going to try something else hoppy tonight but just had Toppling Goliath PseudoSue. So that would be quite unfair (even though it was canned late May). I got from Purvis, it has a new to me WA importer.

    Magic Rock Human Cannonball was another very good (albeit strong) hoppy pale.

    Gradually working my way through the Bridge Rd Bling de Wilde series - the Giaconda one was great.

    I had thought I'd had Rebelse Strop but it turns out I'd had the non-Brett version and this is rather more intriguing.

    It'd been a long time since I had De Molen Tsarina Estra (what _is_ an imperial porter anyway?) and his BA beers tend to be overbearing, but the Woodford Reserve version was right up my street.
     
  39. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (370) Oct 6, 2013 Australia

    Anyone seen how old the recent Psuedosue cans are? Might grab a 4-pack.
     
  40. Narkee

    Narkee Initiate (101) Jun 20, 2013 Australia

    More than a month at a guess. Varies by can. I bought one and while it was good, it seemed far from at it's best (granted I haven't had one fresh).
     
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