What's wetting the whistle P.4

Discussion in 'Australia / Oceania' started by Gasc0igne, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (358) Oct 6, 2013 Australia
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    Just had one, seems the ones in distro were canned at start of June. Was definitely enjoyable, though it doesn't hold up as well as SoS or Zombie Dust.

    Super crushable, low bitterness, nice tangerine and kiwi with a really tasty sweet malt backbone. Excellent mouth feel too. But all pretty muted.

    If we could get this at like ~6 weeks I'd be very happy.

    Anyone have a local suggestion for a really solid local Pale Ale or <8% IPA? Not really interested in pine/resin forward, much prefer citrus/tropical dominant (any bitterness). Hop Nation was a decent reccy before.
     
  2. Narkee

    Narkee Initiate (139) Jun 20, 2013 Australia
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    Fresh Fixation always works for me. The Squish is great for something more fruit forward.
     
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  3. Ostpies

    Ostpies Initiate (82) Nov 3, 2015 New Zealand (Aotearoa)

    Garage Project are doing a monthly Fresh IPA at the moment. The first three months have all been really good.
     
  4. RichardLeahy

    RichardLeahy Aspirant (214) Sep 15, 2018 Australia

    I am perhaps more a traditionalist than many on this forum, but drink a mix of craft/traditional. The only real division with beer is - good beer/bad beer, and I've not had too many of the latter. Some recent beers - Pauvel Kwak, Lord Nelson Dark Ale, O'Hara's Irish Stout, Old Milwaukee, Belhaven Scottish Ale, Pikes Pilsener, Carlsberg Elephant Beer.
     
  5. hawthorne00

    hawthorne00 Initiate (87) Nov 23, 2010 Australia

    A roughly equal mix of Feral WarHog, Thornbridge Jaipur (now also in cans) and Sierra Nevada Resilience Butte County Proud IPA. Complexity in a bucket.

    Various other things too, obviously. Still drinking the Oud Beersel Faro bag-in-box lambic opened 3 weeks ago. It really keeps fine and has now cleared - next time I will keep it still a week after opening it before pouring. Really liked Mountain Goat's Hello Humanoid - tasty, hoppy and witty.
     
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  6. Ostpies

    Ostpies Initiate (82) Nov 3, 2015 New Zealand (Aotearoa)

    It's hazy fever here in NZ, almost every brewery putting out an acceptable to pretty good hazy IPA. Problem is as they are near-identical, there is really no reason for so many.
     
  7. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (358) Oct 6, 2013 Australia
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    It appears some of my stock of 2011 Golden Blend are basically turning to Golden Doesjel, pretty disappointing :9

    ..and on a lighter note - how is everybody doing?
     
  8. Narkee

    Narkee Initiate (139) Jun 20, 2013 Australia
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    Good mate, how are you?

    I'm booked in to GBW again this year so looking forward to that. Also did well with the latest Cantillon drop so it's been a good few months on the beer front.

    New brewpub in Margaret River called Wild Hop. Incredible set up. Beers are really clean but not overly complex or have huge depth of flavour. Nothing wrong with that though. Really approachable beers.

    I noticed that one of their upcoming tap beers is a BA Imperial Stout. Was hoping it would come online when I was there.
     
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  9. Narkee

    Narkee Initiate (139) Jun 20, 2013 Australia
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    Had a 2015 Girardin OG and 2015 Cantillon Gueuze side-by-side last night.

    Never hard Girardin before but I now understand why people rate this beer so highly. As soon as it started to be poured a wall of aroma hit me with a heap of funkiness, damp hay, subtle lemon and a good hit of oak. Palate was complex with deep funk, light acidity and lemon, plenty of oak. Flavours were intense but delicate if that makes sense. Stunning beer!

    The Cantillon was similar to the Girardin but pared back a bit. More lemon in the aroma. Palate was more acidic, light oak and more lemon. It was less complex but still delicious.
     
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  10. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (358) Oct 6, 2013 Australia
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    Good to hear you're doing well mate. It's always so strange coming back to these forums and the "craft beer" (is it even called that anymore? haha) arena. What did we see for the Loon arrivals this go 'round? If I recall correctly it was pretty depressing for quite a while, self-importing was just so much better heh.

    Always love seeing someone experience the magic of a classic Girardin 1882 Black Label (I'm assuming it was black label); I always, even now, make sure I have a few standard 3F OGs, Girardin Blacks, and Oud Beersel Oude Kriek Vieille stocked somewhere deep in the house haha. Good too hear there's still activity (I mean, of course there is, but you know what I mean).
     
  11. Narkee

    Narkee Initiate (139) Jun 20, 2013 Australia
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    Latest Loon drop was OG, RdG, Kriek, Lam, Vig and Nath.

    The Girardin was Black label. So damn good.
     
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  12. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (358) Oct 6, 2013 Australia
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    What in the world is Cantillon Nath? I've been gone too damn long. Also, I love seeing official Vig imports again, looks like a pretty good lineup overall.

    So...is Nath good? I may need to reach out and see if I can find some if yes haha.
     
  13. danieelol

    danieelol Savant (946) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    Just drinking the Otherside Imperial Harvest...really tasty beer but I don't think it's actually a wet hop beer. Pretty keen to try more stuff from this brewery.

    Also had the 3 Ravens Blueberry Coffee Milkshake IPA which was surprisingly really good.

    Had a 6 year old Cantillon Iris lately that was tasting great, very bright, complex and Orval-esque without being overbearing.

    Had a terrible bottle of Tilquin Oude Mure which had almost no character.

    In January I was in Palo Alto/San Fran (San Fran for about 3 hours) and managed to hit up Toronado and Mikkeller Bar. Toronado was a little bit disappointing, tried Blind Pig and you can get better IPAs here, probably the best beer I had there was Barebottle Mosaic Kush. I found Mikkeller Bar's beer menu kinda disappointing, had a vintage of Big Bad Baptist and a mediocre Russian River Pale Ale (Dribble Belt) there. Kind of wish I'd gone to City Beer Store instead, didn't even realise they had their own taps.

    Apart from that the best beer I had over there was Ballast Point High West Victory At Sea, that bourbon spice tastes amazing with that coffee and vanilla.

    I'm generally getting pretty over sours these days, there's only so much you can do with them.
     
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  14. Narkee

    Narkee Initiate (139) Jun 20, 2013 Australia
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    Nath is rhubarb. It was their Zwanze beer a few year back. The 2017 needs some time I think. Was very "zoo-like". 2018 is stunning imo. Poured with a light pink hue. Good balance of rhubarb (which is almost non-existent in the 2017), acidity and funk. Stunning beer imo. Worth a look if you get a chance.
     
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  15. hawthorne00

    hawthorne00 Initiate (87) Nov 23, 2010 Australia

    Oddly, this is in (some) Dan Murphy's. I like the normal version better - I just found this one a bit much.

    Heard this a few times, always with "surprisingly" - which is encouraging. Is it still around?

    A few recent local drops for me: both Bad Shepherd Alkonost and Batch Tank6 are more than solid imperial stouts. Foreigner's Silent Hunter is the most convincingly Czech pils I've had from a local brewer. White Rabbit's Le Rameau D'Or has a little more presence than their beers often do whilst maintaining refinement and balance - a good new beer at GABS.
     
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  16. eric5bellies

    eric5bellies Meyvn (1,406) Jun 9, 2006 Australia
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    Lion Stout. Yeah sure its not been aged in barrels enfused with urine collected from Elvis Presley's last visit to the toilet. But fkn hell its a bloody good stout
     
  17. eric5bellies

    eric5bellies Meyvn (1,406) Jun 9, 2006 Australia
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    [​IMG] 10 years old. It does have a small amount of oxidisation and the dreaded soy sauce, but overall still drinking extremely well. I do have a 1983 version of this beer but it will remain unopened forever
     
  18. RichardLeahy

    RichardLeahy Aspirant (214) Sep 15, 2018 Australia

    Agree, love Lion Stout. Nothing complicated or crafty just 8.8% abv and great flavor. If you like Lion you will probably also like Angkor Stout only 8% but otherwise similar, not sure if it's coincidence or that they are both from south east Asia.
     
  19. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (358) Oct 6, 2013 Australia
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    Hey I like seeing more posts here =D

    I'll just give my thoughts on two recent brews I had in these winter months.

    First, 2018 Parabola 350mL (or was it 375mL? whatever); this was so incredibly disappointing - which seems unusual since I usually enjoy Firestone Walker and Parabola is generally highly regarded. I just found it had an awful appearance (no matter what I tried), an awfully subdued nose for what it is, and mostly oakey-barrel and some smokey ash as the overbearing flavour. I had two different bottles but got the same result. Perhaps I'm crazy? Has anyone had a great time with these recent Parabs?

    The other brew was the mini-bottles of CBS from Founders. First off, insanely well priced for how much I loved these monsters. Absolutely the best looking stout I've poured, and it stayed around forever. Intense maple pleasant charred barrel on the nose, with an excellent roasted coffee backbone doing the heavy lifting. Punches yiou right away with this super unique charr/sweet bourbon mix that just works - it's brilliant and punchy. There's quite a bit of bitterness that fades after a dozen seconds or so which mellows to a soft roasted coffee. The finish is very long but it's awfully subtle and welcome.

    Oh also, this is stupidly drinkable, the mouthfeel on this thing is near-perfect so be careful. Buy a case...or ten.
     
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  20. hawthorne00

    hawthorne00 Initiate (87) Nov 23, 2010 Australia

    I didn't have a whole Parabola, but although I liked it I can see what you mean. It's certainly one where the spirit and charred wood drive the show and the stout is a supporting player. And it is rather thin.

    CBS I liked a whole lot more than I expected. I didn't love KBS but found the way the sappiness of the maple in CBS rather than its sweetness brought things together really compelling. Just a surprising way to bring drinkability and balance to something so rich. And it's one of those that's gone from I'll-probably-never-try to still hanging around.
     
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  21. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (358) Oct 6, 2013 Australia
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    I had the same thought as you regarding the worry of CBS (as you can go back and see how often I've ranted about how much I dislike the KBS we've received here, and those I've traded for in past years). It was such a surprise and restored my faith in Founders haha.
     
  22. hawthorne00

    hawthorne00 Initiate (87) Nov 23, 2010 Australia

    Some Tasmanian beers recently from Bruny Island and Van Dieman. Van Dieman have been around for a while but a bunch of saison recently have been impressive - fairly austere, somewhat sour, quite bitter, mostly with estate only ingredients (although the barley is for now not malted on the farm). Max, Edward, Buffalo, Early and Late. I also have their Loquat sour beer but haven't tried it yet.

    Bruny make good saisons too but I've enjoyed their darker beers recently - the Black is probably a porter, the Oxymoron a BIPA, the sweet stout is made with whey from their cheese operation. The bigger Metric stout is good too.

    From the big island, Sailors' Grave (Orbost) are consistently interesting. I don't really like beers with novelty ingredients but they always seem to have thought about them. The recent Harvest Ale (fermented on Pinot lees with rose bramble) is very refreshing with oak and tannin matching light sourness.

    The newish Modus small cans have been a bit of a mixed bag. Sonic Prayer was fine but Former Tenant was disappointing - but then I was never as taken by it as some.

    Only had one of Green Beacon offshoot Fathom's beers (the Belgian Style Brown) but it all seems rather promising.

    The Moon Dog Jacket's IPA is the best hoppy beer I've had from them.

    Dainton crank out the beers and I haven't really managed to keep up. Some really good, some just novelties. I liked the stupid pickle one, though, so it serves me right.
     
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  23. danieelol

    danieelol Savant (946) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    Had the Pirate Life North West Pale last night, very good stuff actually. Reminded me of a better version of Sierra Nevada Pale or Celebration. Very nice hops, lots of pine, fruity, other good stuff. I'd recommend picking some up from DM's while it's there and fresh. I'm curious about the BB date which stated April 2020 but it seemed so fresh (and only just arrived in stores) that I suspect they put 9-month dating on there.

    Also had a ten year old bottle of Big Worst recently which was absolutely mind-blowing. One of the best noses on a beer ever. Aroma notes were "port, madeira, sauternes. grape vines, chocolate, tobacco, raisins." Pretty sweet.

    Also had a 2011 Vigneronne which was also absolutely stunning. Tasting notes "bellini, prosecco, peaches, peach skin, white grapes, bit of mouldy funk."
     
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  24. Gasc0igne

    Gasc0igne Disciple (358) Oct 6, 2013 Australia
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    Gave Anderson Valley's Blood Orange Gose another shot the other night, not suited for winter but really enjoyable and would love again on a hot day or with some cheese platter maybe.

    I was never super impressed with Evil Twin in general, but I saw a lonely can of that "120 Days Dry Aged Stout" on the shelf for way too much money so I bought it - nothing special, a solid big stout but it's just inoffensive and could be from any brewer really. The one thing that did stand out though was how the fuck they managed to hide the 17.5% ABV in this can - legitmately be careful with these things if drinking from the can as it drank like a 7%-er........
     
  25. Darwin553

    Darwin553 Initiate (85) Jan 5, 2009 Australia

    Brooklyn lager for me right now at the Buffalo Bar. Quite good for a lager.
     
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  26. sinkas

    sinkas Initiate (167) Jul 9, 2008 Australia
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    Otherside are doing good limited beers currently,
    seem like every other week they have some 10%+ bomb to zonk the punters out

    didnt really dig the " Colonial inquest" much pretty thin for big stout

    and +1 from eric 5 on the Lion stout,
    great to see that on the shelves again.