What's with the bad reviews for Ichigo Highway?

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by DovaliHops, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. DovaliHops

    DovaliHops Nov 16, 2009 California
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    I understand that people are going to have different views on certain beers, but any sour lover HAS TO love this beer. It is not as sour as your typical Cantillon, or as funky as your typical Fantome. Also may not have that Cascade flavor we all love. It is a DAMN GOOD SOUR though, IMO. But that's just...you know the rest. Cheers!
     
  2. Arbitrator

    Arbitrator Nov 26, 2008 California

    Crazy thought, but what if it's not?
     
  3. vacax

    vacax Jun 3, 2008 California
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    It is
     
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  4. Earlycsquid

    Earlycsquid Jan 7, 2013 California
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    First time having it I wasn't much of a fan.

    Second bottle opened, I appreciated it a lot better. No clue why.
     
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  5. 3rdto1st

    3rdto1st Dec 1, 2011 California

    It doesnt tast plasticy to any of you? Ok, just me then.
     
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  6. afrokaze

    afrokaze Jun 12, 2009 Arizona
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    I really liked it. Probably the best Provisions beer I tried. Could've used more sour though.
     
  7. tyrsis

    tyrsis Mar 13, 2009 California
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    Tastes like sour strawberry jam. I love it.
     
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  8. CenCalMario

    CenCalMario Jan 12, 2009 California
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    I haven't read the reviews, but the bottle I had tasted like liquid plastic and band-aids.

    Pretty much hated it.
     
  9. ggwheeler

    ggwheeler Jan 8, 2011 California

    I'm a lover and defender of the Bruery to the end. They rarely cease to amaze me. I think they are bar-none the best brewery in So Cal in in the discussion for best brewery in the country.

    But even the big guys are allowed a swing and a miss occasionally.

    Ichigo Highway is a pretty big swing and miss.

    It's 'The Pantom Menace' of Bruery beers.

    Go get an Otiose. It's 'The Empire Strikes Back' of Bruery beers.
     
  10. ggwheeler

    ggwheeler Jan 8, 2011 California


    someone tell me how it feels to touch a boob.

    please.
     
  11. SHODriver

    SHODriver Aug 13, 2010 Louisiana
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    it's probably a bit too odd for some people. Strawberry is kind of an odd fruit to try and capture the essence of and add to a beer. I thought it was pretty interesting though and enjoyed the experience.
     
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  12. Miruguy

    Miruguy Nov 22, 2010 California
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    I really liked it as well and was surprised it wasn't better received by folks.
     
  13. Gonzoillini

    Gonzoillini Oct 15, 2008 Illinois

    Yea thought it was one of the best strawberry sours I had ever had (Looking at you Upland / Cascade / Hanssens). Drink em sooner rather than later as strawberry fades quickly.

    Cheers!
     
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  14. PlinyTheYoungest

    PlinyTheYoungest Jun 30, 2009 California

    I only had it on tap but thought that it was fantastic. Maybe there are some off flavors showing up in bottles.
     
  15. peteinSD

    peteinSD Apr 25, 2010 California

    i don't believe i've had that one. the bruery has definitely upped their sour beer program in the last few years. however, they seem to have hit a wall with the overly acidic, near vinegar in your face approach to sours. i'd love to see them add some nuance and take it to the next level.
     
  16. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Mar 18, 2010 California

    I gave it a 3.58. It wasn't bad per se, but it isn't a sour I would go after again.
     
  17. aknight

    aknight Jun 2, 2008 California

    I thought it was really good for what it was. I agree that strawberry is kind of an odd flavor to capture in a beer but I thought IH did it about as well as it could be done. I wasn't expecting to like it much but I came away pretty impressed by it.
     
  18. beerific

    beerific Nov 8, 2010 California
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    This! I had it on tap and it had a horrible plastic/medicinal character to it. I tried it on tap after having purchased bottles so hopefully the bottles end up being better.
     
  19. MrFootstones

    MrFootstones Aug 8, 2008 California

    I thought the intense phenolic character was unpleasant, but was able to look past it and, overall, enjoy the beer. I see where both sides are coming from on this one.
     
  20. besaunders

    besaunders Nov 8, 2007 California

    Ichigo Highway, in the sunshine.
    Where the medicine stays longer, and the phenols are stronger than moonshine...
     
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  21. salzar

    salzar Dec 27, 2008 California

    I really enjoyed it when it first came out, but I noticed a rapid decline in the strawberry flavor in the subsequent bottles I have had.
     
  22. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    Agree. Cascade Strawberry has the band aid problem too.
     
  23. vacax

    vacax Jun 3, 2008 California
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    Maybe the bottles are wonky on the Ichigo Highway? I had it on tap multiple times and thought it was the best strawberry beer I've ever had from the USA.
     
  24. jtmartino

    jtmartino Dec 11, 2010 California
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    I've been told that Ichigo is getting funkier over time too. Opened a bottle recently and it was weird as hell - tons of astrigent band-aid and some stinky cheese with a bit of strawberry.

    Too bad since I didn't get to try it fresh...it's a weird beast now.
     
  25. tyrsis

    tyrsis Mar 13, 2009 California
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    Quoting myself because I had some at a share last night and it totally tasted like band aids. The hell happened?
     
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  26. nogidrew86

    nogidrew86 Aug 16, 2010 Nevada

    I think strawberry is a fruit that does not do very well over time in beers in general. To the Bruery and Cascade credit they have advocated drinking their strawberry beers sooner than later. I believe the ichigo bottles state to drink it fresh.
     
  27. nanobrew

    nanobrew Dec 31, 2008 California

    exact same situation for me. I didn't even finish my pour of it the first time I had it. Had another bottle last week and thought it was better. Still has an almost moldy strawberry nose and taste.
     
  28. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Had it on tap in November, was kind of average to me.

    Had a bottle of it at a NYE party, damn, it was awesome.

    I think I'll bring a bottle to the Reno March Madness event and see "how's it drinking" then.

    I think since I still have two bottles left, I'm obligated to say its drinking well.
     
  29. stupac2

    stupac2 Feb 22, 2011 California
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    I had my bottle about a month ago and thought it unremarkable. It's pretty bizarre that the scattershot here isn't just disagreement about whether a character of the beer is good, like normal for Bruery beers, but about whether or not it's even present. Bruery usually manages better QC than that.
     
  30. jtmartino

    jtmartino Dec 11, 2010 California
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    Yeah the weird band aid phenolic issue seems to be widespread. Not sure if it's due to weird by-products from the sake yeast, or some other kind of yeast-fruit interaction. But when I had it, there was much, much more to the beer that I didn't like. It was a weird funk - like rotten fruit, moldy cheese and then a touch of the band aid stuff. It's not aging well, and I'm afraid to open my other bottles.

    I'm not sure if it's a QC issue, but I don't think the Bruery controls their sours as much as they should. They are the only major sour producer I know of that allows huge amounts of acetic acid in all of their sour beers, and I think it's a flaw. I know oud buins and flanders red ales typically have some acetic character, but the Bruery seems to encourage it in all their beers. Reueze, Mother Funker, Otiose, Filmishmish and others all have vinegar notes that have been putting me off lately.
     
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  31. stupac2

    stupac2 Feb 22, 2011 California
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    There's a reason I've taken to only buying one of the Provisions releases. I don't think there's been a single one that was worth buying more.
    I think that's what they're going for. The fact that everything they make is so unbalanced and acetic can't just be an accident. I wish they'd tone it down, because they'd have a great thing going if they could just reduce the acetic a bit.
     
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  32. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Have you ever had Premiere?
     
  33. stupac2

    stupac2 Feb 22, 2011 California
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    Yes, several times, in fact. I'm not a fan.
     
  34. AndrewK

    AndrewK Oct 20, 2006 California

    Didnt get any strong phenolics in the bottles that I have opened, but some variance in the amount of blue cheesy funk, which is something I have found to be prominent in lots of strawberry sours (esp Hanssens). Ive got one bottle left so Ill have to open it this week and see if I get any of the bandaid that people are talking about.
     
  35. domtronzero

    domtronzero Aug 18, 2007 California

    Definitely noticed the bandaid/vinyl phenols. Also the acetic character is a bit much for me (surprise, surprise coming from a Bruery sour :rolleyes:).

    I think that the fruit flavor is also a bit weird. All in all, it tasted kinda like an unripened strawberry flavor, with a touch of vinaigrette.
     
  36. CAbeerCAbeerCA

    CAbeerCAbeerCA Mar 3, 2011 Maryland
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    Tart of Darkness? First year's was awesome.
     
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  37. kojevergas

    kojevergas Aug 15, 2010 New York
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    I'd stop far short of calling myself a Bruery "fan", but I enjoyed Ichigo Highway.
     
  38. stupac2

    stupac2 Feb 22, 2011 California
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    I don't really like sour stouts (or dark sours in general), but that one is one of the better ones. I more meant that nothing in the Provisions series approaches the Anniversary beers, BT, CR, Melange #3, etc.
     
  39. mrkrispy

    mrkrispy Apr 5, 2006 California

    I've now opened two bottles, one quite yummy, one plastic-y. Got one left to try. I am wondering if something was messed up during bottling.
     
  40. kscaldef

    kscaldef Jun 11, 2010 Oregon
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    There's definitely some variation in how much people perceive the phenols. We opened a bottle on Saturday and some people found it undrinkably plasticy, while others didn't get nearly as much of that and rather enjoyed it. Everyone agreed it was a little funky, though.
     
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