When, in your opinion, is Heady at its peak?

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  1. chippo33

    chippo33 Meyvn (1,069) Feb 29, 2012 Vermont
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    yes, thank you - sorry about that
     
  2. nrs207

    nrs207 Defender (687) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Somewhere around

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  3. mark14580

    mark14580 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2011 New York

    Start trading
     
  4. mark14580

    mark14580 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2011 New York

    You've got to stop caring what other people discuss.
     
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  5. bud914

    bud914 Aspirant (235) Dec 6, 2008 New York

    my brother in law goes up to the brewery for me once a month or so. he has business up there. just came back with 3 cases fresh as can be. i am a very popular guy at work. once a month that is.:slight_smile:
     
  6. GreenMtnMike

    GreenMtnMike Initiate (160) May 30, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I agree that keeping it cool is the key. If handled properly I don't see any difference between 1 day and 1 month. After that it does start to settle out a bit, but still tastes great for as long as you are likely to hold on to it.
     
  7. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Meyvn (1,248) Feb 27, 2009 Illinois
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    When its n my mouth!
     
  8. nuckbuc

    nuckbuc Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2010 New York

    Had same same batch as OP. Had it 2nd day after canned, thought it was awesome as always with a very slight dullness. Had a can today and it was absolutely amazing. Prior can was drank with several other great IPA's so maybe that's why. I don't know. It's heady. It's amazing. Just drink it.
     
  9. nuckbuc

    nuckbuc Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2010 New York

    Please send me all your 5 day old Heady. Wouldn't want you to suck down a non quality beer.
     
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  10. bennetj17

    bennetj17 Meyvn (1,374) Oct 30, 2005 Arizona
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    I would not, could not, drink it over a month old. Well maybe.
     
  11. RayUF07

    RayUF07 Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2012 Florida

    2 days before it is canned.
     
  12. Ahappyhiker2

    Ahappyhiker2 Initiate (194) Mar 27, 2013 New Jersey
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    I had Heady on tap at the brewery as fresh as possible and it didn't taste too much different to me than it does out of the can after a few weeks. Maybe cause to me the beer is just so much of an in-your-face hop taste that it didn't fade in my opinion, but it's a great DIPA either way.
     
  13. CelticAleMan

    CelticAleMan Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    I haven't had it in a enough different stages to comment, but I know from experience that Pliny is best in the 3-4 week range. And those of you who are counting time in the bright tanks; that is just stupid. Most people are referring to time after bottling or canning, which is when it is available for purchase and consumption.:slight_smile:
     
  14. KevSal

    KevSal Savant (937) Oct 17, 2010 California
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    all i know is dont have heady after ephraim, it will ruin heady for u
     
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  15. MexicanSkittel

    MexicanSkittel Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2010 California

    Got the privilege to have one right from the canning line. Opened it 45 min later after it rested in an ice bucket.
    Pretty much the best way to have it.

    But also living in Cali and not having that privilege all the time, I don't get picky. So send me some and I'll reply
     
  16. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,114) Mar 18, 2010 California

    The sooner the better.
     
  17. mmmbirra

    mmmbirra Aspirant (204) Apr 19, 2009 Italy

    would you, could, at three weeks? Would you, could you, at ten days?
    you may like it, you will see
    you may like it, at four weeks
     
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  18. jaIsPoAn

    jaIsPoAn Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2012 New York

    Are you serious?
     
  19. stella77artois

    stella77artois Devotee (495) Nov 4, 2010 New York

    It's at it's peak when I'm drinking it. Prefferably more than 1.

    I'm not nearly "developed" enough to truly judge a subtle difference in taste based on age. I'll take it whenever I can get it.
     
  20. chefduff2

    chefduff2 Zealot (522) Feb 17, 2008 New York
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    I'll let you guys know as I get through my stash, but the strange part was I actually liked the can of it better then the sample I got right off the tap at the brewery. The guys working the line there are super friendly.
     
  21. danacollins

    danacollins Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2008 Massachusetts

    I've had it anywhere from 1 week to 6 weeks. It tastes okay at each time. Definitely big and hoppy, but I think this beer is so highly rated more for the hype and the limited distribution, rather than the taste.
     
  22. jdamaso84

    jdamaso84 Initiate (165) Aug 4, 2010 Colorado
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    Hops are the most overrated thing regularly discussed in the craft beer community. To me, the best breweries (Cantillon, Fantome, New Glarus, Element, Night Shift) are the ones that manage to brew unique and interesting beers without relying so heavily on hops.

    Sorry if that offends anyone.
     
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  23. Chugs13

    Chugs13 Zealot (599) Dec 11, 2011 New Jersey
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    Hour 23 for sure.
     
  24. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Zealot (554) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I just had my first 3 cans of heady and poured a full can of heady in the glass, below pic, and got zero floaties. I was under the impression all heady had floaties?

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  25. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (719) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    There was a discussion in the past, and I believe his 10 weeks comment includes the brewing time, so it's really something like 3 weeks after canning.

    IMO it's ready to go right out of the gates, and like most every IPA, falls off a noticeable amount after a month or so. Heady is still very drinkable at 2-3 months, but after that it has lost what makes it so wonderful. Still drinkable, but not world class anymore. Consume fresh!
     
  26. BeerBucks

    BeerBucks Defender (623) Feb 18, 2012 New York
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    A lady at the brewery told me its best consumed between weeks 3-12 from canning. The fresher the better for me. I like to drink the tasters at the brewery and I always drink two out of the can the night I pick any up. There is a slight change after about 3 weeks, then a big drop off after 8 weeks, imo. The change is not a bad thing at all. I suggest everyone picks them up in 12s and drinks two every week for 6 weeks to see how it evolves, then you can determine what you like best.
     
  27. brureview

    brureview Meyvn (1,232) Jan 20, 2012 Massachusetts

    Thanks for the forum on this question. I agree that Heady loses it "best quality" even after a week.

    My experience: great in the brewery. I drove to my hotel, put it in the fridge- great after 2 days.

    Drove home, the beer was not in the fridge for 7 hours. I tasted it the next night- not as good. The piquancy is gone- but it's still the same Heady.

    It's unfiltered and not pasteurized. That is probably key to its not lasting long.

    I have 5 cans in the fridge.

    John Kimmich says that it can be aged for a year. So it does last.
     
  28. m4ttj0nes

    m4ttj0nes Aspirant (204) Feb 21, 2012 Oregon
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    couldn't disagree more.
     
  29. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Champion (846) Jul 15, 2011 Florida
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    The second that primary fermentation ends, obviously.
     
  30. chippo33

    chippo33 Meyvn (1,069) Feb 29, 2012 Vermont
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    Absolutely, Ive been drinking and serving it for years. It's ok to have different opinions, thats the great thing about this site. I'm just repoting on the feedback and experience from all the customers i deal with.
     
  31. mcrago

    mcrago Aspirant (281) Oct 6, 2012 Indiana

    Speaking of Heady, is it only available at The Alchemist? If not, how often is it found fresh in bottle shops in Vermont?
     
  32. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Poo-Bah (4,457) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    Within the first 6-8 weeks...why and how it lasted that long I'll never know but it still tasted great.
     
  33. brureview

    brureview Meyvn (1,232) Jan 20, 2012 Massachusetts

    Good point:slight_smile: In the video, John states that his months old can of Heady is very good. Who knows? Maybe we are expecting the first "rush" we experience from this beer. The balance doesn't go away. Perhaps the intense pine may wane.
    One of the reasons we are so temperamental about this beer is because it's difficult to get- and once we purchase it, we notice delicate change.
     
  34. GuzzLah

    GuzzLah Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 Illinois

    Heady peaks at 18 hours and 47 minutes after it was canned. The window of maximum awesomeness only lasts 8 minutes and you absolutely must drink it straight from the can. If you missed the window of maximum awesomeness it's a drain pour.
     
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  35. KevSal

    KevSal Savant (937) Oct 17, 2010 California
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    I was drink ephraim last night and kept thinking "man this reminds me of heady" so I cracked a heady and did a side by side. Ephraim beat it on every level, guess its more tuned to my taste and palate than heady is. Saw this thread while I was sippin on both.
    Ephraim needs to get bottled!
     
  36. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,165) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I am offended.

    Haha, JK.

    Take a look at the top beer list and you will see yours is a minority opinion. I agree, though, that Berliner Weisse is the summer style of the future, and I plan to master that style this summer.

    But for now IPA rules, and American Hops are the fuels that drive those babies, so they are hardly overrated, they are rated perfectly.
     
  37. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,165) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Haha I know, beer tasting has come to the point that wine connoisseurs joke about. You know, a man asking if the vineyard that grew the grapes was bordered by pine trees, because he could taste the pine in the wine.

    That said, I am a homebrewer who brews 20+ batches of IPA a year, my favorite style, and I can tell you that the aroma of dry hopping starts to decrease the instant it comes out of the fermentor. There is nothing like the aroma when I draw the completed beer to bottle it, it is stronger and more delicious smelling than it is a day later, a week later, and in a month the aroma has subsided so much it almost is a different smell. We are trying to make this less so with newer techniques, such as half hour 147 degree hop stands, but I think it is the nature of aroma that it degrades quickly no matter what we try to do
     
  38. DHS1029

    DHS1029 Aspirant (252) Feb 14, 2013 Illinois
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    Unfortunately I was only able to procure 8 of them. I drank my first 6 within a week or so after getting them, gave the seventh to a friend to try, and decided I would save the eighth for a special day - which wound up being Memorial Day while I was grilling. I really need to get more. Definitely one of my favorites.
     
  39. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Zealot (596) Jul 4, 2008 Ohio

    Once their distro becomes a little more wide spread. I hope once I do have one it lives up to all the hand wringing & pantie wetting excitement going on out there...sheeesh talk about the east coast's version of Pliney:rolling_eyes:
     
  40. dashmartino

    dashmartino Initiate (191) Aug 30, 2006 Pennsylvania

    i like it super super fresh, like within a week. however, id rather have a 2 or 3 month old heady than some other fresh IPAs
     
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