Where is Avery Uncle Jacob Batch #2?

Discussion in 'Mountain' started by hitter114, May 14, 2013.

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  1. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I'm not sure anyone is miles ahead of Founders. They brew a lot more than the Breakfast Stout variants just like Avery makes more than Uncle Jacob's.
    Avery is awesome, but let's not overreact.
     
  2. guyforget

    guyforget Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2009 Colorado

    founders makes awesome beers.

    my litmus test for breweries these days is about how they push the envelope and a big part of that in my opinion is sour/wild beers along w/ other unique releases.

    to my knowledge founders has done some "fruit" beers but never any sour, wild, brett, lacto, pedio, etc, etc.

    in this respect, i view them in the same vein as my current opinion of great divide - great beers from brewers who formerly pushed the envelope to bring us all of the "big" and "barreled" beers we have now - the yeti's, breakfast stouts, etc. but who have not taken the next leap into further experimentation.

    avery continues to push the creative envelope over and over and over again, in addition to having a solid stable of regular rotation beers that compete w/ the likes of founders or great divide.
     
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  3. Prospero

    Prospero Pooh-Bah (2,680) Jul 27, 2010 Colorado
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    Founders has dropped a couple spots with recent Doom, Bolt Cutter and Frangelic Mountain Brown... and the upcoming Mango Magnifico doesn't even sound good. The last good backstage beer I had from Founders was Better Half back in 2/2012. +1 as well for Avery brewing annual batches of Uncle Jacob's & Rumpkin.... Founders should have taken their successful beers like Blushing Monk & CBS and made them annuals.
     
  4. rekrappy

    rekrappy Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2006 Colorado

    I appreciate the kind words for sure. But I honestly wouldn't put either of us miles ahead of each other... I think we both make a lot of awesome beers. I buy a lot of Founders when I head back to the Midwest to visit family and wish I could get Centennial IPA all the time. And All Day IPA, for that matter. I'm actually hoping to make it to Founders in August, as I'll be about an hour from there.

    I *do* think it's worth noting that our barrel programs operate pretty differently. They have far more barrels, which can have positive and negatives. It can make it easier to blend and make a consistent product, but it's also much more work to make that happen and do it well. The fact that they can make something as consistent as Kentucky Breakfast Stout and make it that often is very impressive. Whereas we make a single batch of Uncle Jacob's Stout a year... there are bound to be some differences between vintages of that beer due to fermentation differences, barrel variation, etc. Neither way is necessarily better than the other... both have pitfalls and advantages.

    And for every experimental beer that either of us does, we're bound to run into people who don't necessarily love them. And that's totally fine. We're also bound to run into people who think that beer was top tier. That's the nature of experimentation and what makes it fun. The folks at Founders know that they could make more money by simply pouring even more resources into KBS and CBS, but they choose to do beers like Frangelic, Doom, etc. And while they haven't delved into bottled sour beers yet, they're still trying things that we haven't.

    And in a semi-related note, we're bottling Uncle Jacob's right meow. And I'm very happy with this batch. I've only had the equivalent of half a bottle this morning and I can feel my productivity slipping...

    Andy Parker
    Barrel Herder
    Avery Brewing Company
     
  5. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Let me expand on my notion here. I'm just talking about release parties. That is all. I'm a total fucking homer, and think KBS is a pretty shitty beer compared to , let's just say, Uncale Jacob's or parabola. I agree that avery doesn't get 1/4 the love and recognition they deserve simply because their beers don't get out of the state. I just hoarded up some barrel aged mounds bar to make damn sure of it too. I should have taken the time to explain myself earlier, and that's my fault, but don't think that I meant founders is better than avery, because I don't.
     
  6. SalukiAlum

    SalukiAlum Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2010 Colorado

    'KBS' and 'pretty shitty beer' in the same sentence? That's a first! :slight_smile:
     
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  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Just one man's opinion. Mine tasted like band aids.
     
  8. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Not to send this thread down the wrong road, but I've always thought KBS was one of the "hotter" tasting BA beers out there, and I'm pretty sensitive to that. Uncle Jacob's is definitely smoother tasting right out of the gate.

    With Founders, I think most of their best beers aren't even their famous ones. I guess FBS is still pretty famous...but with the BA variations, it has been somewhat forgotten. They're like the Anti-Goose Island. Their normal stuff rocks.
     
  9. dauss

    dauss Pooh-Bah (1,954) Aug 9, 2003 Colorado
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    How about a case discount? $288 is a lot of money for beer.
     
  10. tacosandbeer

    tacosandbeer Pooh-Bah (1,760) Sep 24, 2010 British Indian Ocean Territory
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    So buy less.
     
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  11. MighHighBrewer

    MighHighBrewer Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2013 Colorado

    Looks like the release party is July 7th. 1 case (24 beers) per person limit. Anybody know how many cases of this were produced?

    Thanks!
     
  12. drumrboy22

    drumrboy22 Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2005 Colorado

    Label says 848 cases.
     
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  13. MighHighBrewer

    MighHighBrewer Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2013 Colorado

    Thanks! Isn't that the largest BA release to date? I can't imagine this not hitting Colorado distribution.

     
  14. ssteigerwald

    ssteigerwald Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2010 Colorado
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    :grimacing:
     
  15. greg4579

    greg4579 Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Would love to get my hands on a couple. If someone is willing to pick up 2 and trade or work something out then BM me.
     
  16. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    So...if anyone is going and has no plan to meet their allotment, shoot me a message. I'll happily compensate you for your troubles.
     
  17. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Edit - disregard that. I was thinking this was a Friday like in the old days. Since it's Sunday, it won't conflict with my Bull & Bush gravity keg fix. I'll see y'all in line!
     
  18. staplemaniac

    staplemaniac Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2013 Florida

    I drove up from Florida and will be going, but I've never been to Avery. What is their policy on bottle shares?
     
  19. coreymcafee

    coreymcafee Zealot (683) May 30, 2006 Colorado

    Shhhh...

    That's the policy for most bottle shares around these parts.
     
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  20. imperialbeerdude

    imperialbeerdude Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2012 Colorado

    Anyone from Parker going? I only want about 2 bottles.
     
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