Who's on your Mt. Rushmore of craft beer?

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  1. beaulabauve

    beaulabauve Aug 5, 2011 Louisiana

    Who's on your Mt. Rushmore of craft beer?

    Mine:

    Fritz Maytag
    Ken Grossman
    Jim Koch
    Michael Jackson
     
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  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    We did that already
    Who's on your Mount Rushmore of American craft beer?

    (Sure, it's five years old but it takes a long time to chisel those heads onto the mountain :grin: and not so easy change. Not like moving a brewery from "Craft" to non-craft after a change of ownership.)
     
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  3. beaulabauve

    beaulabauve Aug 5, 2011 Louisiana

    Ah. Thank you.
     
  4. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well then, what if we carve a different mountain? Say the Crazy Horse sculpture of beer?

    Pierre Celis
    Pete Schlossberg
    Sam Caligione
    Bert Grant
     
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  5. Vitacca

    Vitacca Sep 15, 2010 Montana
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    Cory King
    Troy Casey
    Shaun Hill
    Tim Clifford/Adair Paterno
     
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  6. Chipotle

    Chipotle Apr 23, 2017 New York

    I think Jimmy Carter should be represented on the craft beer Mt. Rushmore. He freed us to brew.
     
  7. jacincm

    jacincm Mar 29, 2018 Pennsylvania

    Very disappointed that no one said Vinny from Russian River. Him, Sam from DFH and Koch from Sam Adams are the first three that come to mind

    Shaun Hill for the “new age” brewers
     
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  8. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    Charlie Papazian
    John Mallet
    Louis Pasreur
    Michael Jackson
     
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  9. nc41

    nc41 Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Vinnie Cilurzo
    Shaun Hill
    John Klimmish
    Greg Koch
    John Hall
     
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  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Credit also goes the Representative William Steiger for introducing the bill, Sen. A Cranston amended it with the homebrew part, Carter signed it. It had more to do with trucking taxation.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/95th-congress/house-bill/1337/summary/35
     
  11. TLA

    TLA Jul 14, 2005 Pennsylvania

    Ken Grossman
    Greg Koch
    Sam Calagione
    Bill Covaleski
     
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  12. jesskidden

    jesskidden Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    This guy?
    ---Pete Slosberg, quoted in the Denver Post [02/24/1999] 7 months after the sale of "Pete's" to Gambrinus (then one of two US importers of Corona, as well as the owner of Spoetzl).

    The paper goes on to note that "...Since the sale, he has all the appearance of a marketing tool, not unlike Colonel Sanders and fried chicken." At the time of the sale, Pete's Wicked Ale (fermented with lager yeast) was brewed by 20M bbl. Stroh, 4th largest brewer in the US, which owned about 20% of the company.

    One of the biggest myths going :rolling_eyes:. As noted above by @hopfenunmaltz Carter merely signed a minor bill of changes in the tax code. How it was reported at the time:
    [​IMG]
    As noted in the last sentence - "No arrests have ever been made..." There was no need to "Free" anyone. Homebrew clubs (among the backers of the change) and shops operated and advertised in the open, with articles on homebrewing frequently appearing in the local press and homebrewing books available in most any bookstore.
     
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  13. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I said I going for the Crazy Horse, not the Rushmore...... :wink:
     
  14. Chipotle

    Chipotle Apr 23, 2017 New York


    For Pete's sake I was just making a lighthearted reference to the time when home brewing actually became a more popular thing. I know all the background about it already. I hereby retract my comment to include Carter. Obviously it's far too controversial. WTF !
     
  15. jesskidden

    jesskidden Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Maybe a paper-mache likeness?
    Wait. For Pete's or for Jimmy's? :grin:
    Sorry, but not everyone does (it's repeated ad infinitum* around here) - that's what makes it a myth.

    * As is my annoyingly frequent "opposing opinion" :grimacing: (I resisted all evening but come morning... oh, well).

    ___

    Hey, maybe we should turn the topic around to "Who are the Cardiff Giants of Craft Beer?".:smiley:
     
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  16. Chipotle

    Chipotle Apr 23, 2017 New York

    You're probably right that I shouldn't propagate the myth. To me it just refers to a time when brewing supplies suddenly became available in my neck of the woods. Seems most the great craft brewers started as home brewers.
     
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  17. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Any list like this should have Fritz Maytag 1st. He showed that Americans were looking to enjoy better beer. Even more important that they were willing to PAY more to drink it.
    The other 3 are
    Ken Grossman
    Jack Mc Alliffe
    Jim Koch
     
  18. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Drink most of my beer (at least 90%) brewed within the city or nearby states. Like drinking other beers when traveling and the great worldwide beers available in Chicago, but my go to beers are local and fresh.

    Local Mount Rushmore (Chicago):
    Goose Island:
    (1988) - John Hall & Greg Hall
    Half Acre: (2006) - Gabriel Magliaro
    Revolution: (2010) - John Deth & Jim Cibek
    Spiteful: (2012) - Brad Shaffer & Jason Klein

    Regional Mount Rushmore (Within 200 Miles):
    Bell's:
    (1985 in Kalamazoo, MI) - Larry Bell
    Three Floyds: (1996 in Hammond, IN) - Mike Floyd, Nick Floyd & Simon Floyd
    Founders: (1997 in Grand Rapids, MI) - Mike Stevens & Dave Engbers
    3 Sheeps: (2012 in Sheboygan, WI) - Grant Pauly
     
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  19. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Sep 23, 2018 Maine
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    Nate Lanier
    Ken Grossman
    Shaun Hill
    Cory King
    Todd Alström
     
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  20. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Dec 11, 2006 California
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  21. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Mar 28, 2009 California

    I agree with @chrisjws from his post back in 2015:

    Jim Koch
    Greg Koch
    Vinnie Cilurzo
    Fritz Maytag
     
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  22. sosbombs

    sosbombs Jan 12, 2016 Vermont

    obviously not an easy task, narrowing it down to just 4. I have always advocated for a Beer Hall of Fame.

    Fritz Maytag
    Greg Noonan
    Jim Koch
    Michael Jackson
     
  23. DCH

    DCH Jun 12, 2013 New York

    Otto of Freising
    William V
    Agilus & Eustace of Luxeuil
     
  24. zid

    zid Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    As said, it's very hard narrowing this down, but I think I can live with:

    Kelsey Grammer
    Steve Austin
    Tom Green
    Hanson

    We'll have to squeeze all three Hanson brothers into the space normally occupied by just one head. I think that's fair. I can't imagine them not being on this list but I don't want them to take up 3/4 of it.
     
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  25. chrisjws

    chrisjws Dec 3, 2014 California

    I thought about it and I still stand by my original picks. This is assuming we are talking American craft beer, or this gets way more complicated.

    Fritz (as first as first can really get)
    Greg Koch (hard boundary pusher, edgy advocate)
    Jim Koch (mainstreamer, mainstream advocate)
    Vinnie (game changing innovation)


    Ken Grossman is one of my obvious omissions and that's meant as a disrespect to him as much as it's an acknowledgement of the included. Michael Jackson, the Halls and quite a few others are right on the edge of making my list but not quite. They're my second team all-craft.

    Fritz is always there, since he's pretty much credited as "first" by most.

    Greg Koch to me is the best embodiment of pushing the limits in a time where there wasn't some massive appetite for outlandish beer. These days there's a rabid fanbase waiting for the next extreme beer, back then it was crazy to put an American strong ale front and center. Being unapologetic and pushing tastes right on the edge of the mainstream is a huge reason we have what we have today.

    Jim Koch because I came of age seeing Sam Adams commercials on TV putting out a message that sounded way more interesting than "find your beach", "wazzzzup" or whatever party nonsense was out there. He was on mainstream television advocating for craft. You'd see all kinds of variety from Sam Adams in stores. You could find mix packs with styles you'd never heard of. Bringing craft to the masses.

    Vinnie is the one that was hardest because I think there's a few you can pick for this spot. There's been a handful of brewers who have pushed game changing innovation but he gets my pick because as I understand it, sour beer was barely a thing in the US 20 years ago. He's one of those brewers who made it work and we're all better off for it. He also gets credit for creating one of the single most influential IPAs that helped shift tastes even further down the happy hoppy road.
     
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  26. SierraNevallagash

    SierraNevallagash Sep 23, 2018 Maine
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    Which one was already eminent while the other's eminence was merely imminent?
     
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  27. nc41

    nc41 Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    After all these years Pliny is still #14 on the top 250 beers list, there’s a testament to not only the quality, but the staying power of a classic beer when everyone was and is chasing NEIPAS.
     
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  28. DahBadger

    DahBadger Apr 15, 2020


    I'm going With Jackson, for sure; then,
    Steven Sprecher
    Joe Huber
    Charlie Papazian
     
  29. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Mine is fairly regional, reflecting what I had access to in Chicago back in the day before craft blew up.

    John Hall from GI- how many breweries are there now from people who worked at Goose? It's like the beer version of a Bill Walsh coaching tree, if you worked for him, you can start your own successful brewery.

    Jim Koch- Sam Adams was the 90s gateway to better beer

    Nick Floyd- Three Floyds, Dark Lord Day. Was the hyped place around the time when hype started to mean something. Set the tone for what a beer festival should be and could be and what idiots are willing to pay and do

    Larry Bell- Larry Bell, what more do you need to say? Guy took on stupid distributors in the mid 2000's and is still fighting the good fight against idiots.
     
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  30. MrOH

    MrOH Jul 5, 2010 Malta
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    Michael Jackson (pretty much invented beer styles as we currently know them, great evangalist, original beardy guy at the bar sniffing the beer and writing a review)
    Charlie Papazian (homebrewing evangalist, founder of the Great American Beer Festival, American Homebrewers Association, Association of Brewers)
    Jim Koch (you can't deny the reach Sam Adams has had, and how much it popularized the idea that good beer could be made in America to the masses)
    Bert Grant (first one to up the hops!)
     
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  31. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    That would be my fearsome 4some.
     
  32. DollarBila

    DollarBila Jan 19, 2008 Michigan
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    Arthur Guinness
    Fritz Maytag
    Larry Bell
    Ken Grossman
     
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  33. Sound_Explorer

    Sound_Explorer Dec 29, 2013 Washington
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    Since I am terrible with remembering names I'm just going to do brands:

    Anchor Steam
    Sierra Nevada
    Dogfish Head
    The Alchemist

    Stone and New Belgium are tied for a close 5th but those four, to me, were there in the beginning, set a standard, or changed the beer landscape in some way that has rippled throughout the industry.
     
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  34. Judgie

    Judgie Nov 21, 2012 Indiana

    I almost hate too ask for finding out something that tarnishes the reverence I have for this man, but why the disrespect for Ken Grossman?
     
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  35. jesskidden

    jesskidden Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Joe - not his son, Fred Huber?
     
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