Why are the big beers in big bottles?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by andrejes, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. andrejes

    andrejes Jun 10, 2011 Netherlands
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    All the big beers i drink are in big bottles 650 or 750ml. Why?

    I can't drink a stout bottle 750ml of 12% ABV without a headache!!

    Give me more 330ml!
     
  2. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    More sharing, less hoarding? ;)
     
  3. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey
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  4. KevSal

    KevSal Oct 17, 2010 California
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    it is nice to drink ba plead the 5th and hotd big beers without double thinking if you need extra help or not. but knight has a good point, bombers and 750s are ideal for tastings.
     
  5. kingofhop

    kingofhop May 9, 2010 Oklahoma

    Chimay comes in little bottles, too. Big beer, small bottles, big price.
     
  6. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    Chimay is not that expensive IMO. It does get overly marked up, but that can easily be fixed by finding a bargain store!
     
  7. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    Plenty of good, big beers in 11.2 and 12 oz bottles. Most Belgians cab be found in multiple formats...
     
  8. fox227

    fox227 Nov 19, 2010 California

    Lots of Belgian beers come in the 11.whatever bottle. Maybe try those?
     
  9. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Use a wine stopper for big imperial stouts, barleywines, & old ales, they aren't going to be carbonated heavily to begin with generally, though I guess you could find some exceptions. It will be fine the next day.
     
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  10. Jnorton00

    Jnorton00 Apr 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    To weed out the weak and prove who the real men are! ...
     
  11. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Mar 17, 2010 Michigan

    So I can fill my CBS snifter with them.
     
  12. TheCrowsNest

    TheCrowsNest Mar 26, 2010 California

    Beers age better in larger format bottles, mainly because of the general bad-assery that is associated with big ass bottles. All about the attitude.
     
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  13. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    I'm certain someone will correct me if I'm wrong [and please do if I am], so here goes. It is my understanding that there are no bottling lines for big bottles or it doesn't pay for a small brewery to have 2 bottling lines if a larger line is available, or the conversion to adapt a 12 oz. line to a 22 oz. line is prohibitively expensive. Now since bigger beers are often produced in smaller batches and oftentimes by smaller breweries, it doesn't pay to set up a 12 oz. bottling line for a smaller run nor does it pay to have a second bottling line nor does it pay to set up the bottling line for larger bottles, if that is even possible. Therefore, the bigger beers are hand bottled in bigger bottles and that's another reason for the higher price.
     
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  14. quirkzoo

    quirkzoo Jul 7, 2011 Colorado

    Because it encourages you to make friends.


    or become a loner alcoholic, not sure which one
     
  15. zstef99

    zstef99 Dec 25, 2008 New York

    I'm guessing it's because the price per ounce somehow seems more reasonable in a big bottle. Most people would probably be more likely to shell out $14 for a bomber than $30 for a four-pack or $45 for a six-pack.

    I'd rather see more big beers in small bottles myself. In an average drinking session, I don't usually want 22oz of a 10%+ beer. It's one of the many reasons I appreciate Founders. Lots of their big beers would likely come in bombers if they were produced by another brewery.
     
  16. OneDropSoup

    OneDropSoup Dec 9, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Do you think oenophiles have the same complaint?
     
  17. zstef99

    zstef99 Dec 25, 2008 New York

    I'm guessing oenophiles don't as frequently have the option of buying a similar product at a fraction of the price per ounce in a different size packaging. With beer, the cost per ounce varies so much between 12oz bottles and bombers as to draw attention to the comparison. Also, and I'm no expert on this, I believe a bottle of wine once opened lasts considerably longer than a bottle of beer.
     
  18. ehammond1

    ehammond1 Jul 4, 2008

    MarkIntihar gonna MarkIntihar.
     
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  19. JAXSON

    JAXSON Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    By "hoarding" do you mean drinking by yourself? because that seems to be the issue the OP is having, and I have run into it myself.
     
  20. joeebbs

    joeebbs Apr 29, 2009 Pennsylvania

    and yet BCBS is in 12 oz bottles.
     
  21. slander

    slander Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    easier on the pocket than if they were 4 or 6 packin' them.

    also, a 12 oz bottle you would could put down by yourself, a 22 or 750 you're more likely to share...
     
  22. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    See, I got in trouble yesterday for a joke being takenseriously because I didn't use a smiiley. I used a smiley in that post to convey the idea thaat I was merely joking and I still get called out. Somebody please post a link to the forum rules of sarcasm and wit please!
     
  23. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Feb 27, 2009 Illinois
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    I would rather pay $30/4 pack than $15-18 a bomber. Plus, most places break up high priced 4 packs where you have the option of buyin 1 or 2 bottles rather than have to buy the whole 4 pack!
    It all comes down to more $ for the brewery in bombers though, so I doubt we will see a turn in bottling practices unfortunately.
     
  24. andrejes

    andrejes Jun 10, 2011 Netherlands
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    I live in Holland so all the Belgium 11 i have already 10 ten each!!!!

    No i'am talking about the big beers from the US!!! bruery Black Tuesday, Parabola, Rare, BORIS and all the other ones!!!!
     
  25. tehzachatak

    tehzachatak Sep 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    they also have more .rar, which is the most important part when it comes to taste.
     
  26. Derranged

    Derranged Mar 7, 2010 New York

    Because those big beer brewers want you to get bombed and splurge on more of their product.
     
  27. andrejes

    andrejes Jun 10, 2011 Netherlands
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    Just want small bottles!!! I have a cellar full of big bottles, that i only can drink on the weekends!!!:):)
     
  28. KansasBeerLover

    KansasBeerLover Feb 16, 2009 Kansas

    Share, my ass! I'm gonna go kill another bomber!
     
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  29. fox227

    fox227 Nov 19, 2010 California

    Why do we need big beers everyday? Besides that, there's so many beers in the six or four pack format that are are strong.
     
  30. BeerSocrates12

    BeerSocrates12 Dec 6, 2012 Texas

    I think its a result of the retail side. it's easier for a store to sell bombers individually than it would be to piece out 4 and 6 packs...its a matter of space and efficiency for those selling the product more than the breweries themselves.....of course that's just my opinion...I typically just suck it up and drink on a bomber all night or share with someone.
     
  31. jesskidden

    jesskidden Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Meheen bottling lines (one of the more popular brands for small breweries) can be purchased to work with 12 or 22 oz bottles, and some mfg'rs bottling lines are, apparently, routinely converted back and forth in some breweries, rather than having separate lines if a brewer's barrelage doesn't warrant it.

    This DFH video explains how they change-over from 12's to 750's using the same line, at about 3:00 mark.

    (A brewery employee once answered a thread on why bombers cost more per ounce than their 12's and explained it was due to the downtime and labor involved with re-adjusting the line to do 22's and back again. Of course, most manufacturers would spread that cost out among all it's products- after all, the change-over back to 12's is just as costly).

    There are also bottling lines for corked and caged 750 ml. - Brooklyn's got a nice video of theirs here (still the only bottling line they run in the borough, I believe - their 12's come out of Utica).
     
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  32. leedorham

    leedorham Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    I really like the 750ml size for the big barrel aged wales. When you factor in spillage, it works out just about perfectly for filling a dozen 5-hour energy bottles. That's 12 primo ticks to use as trade bait.
     
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  33. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    Thank you, sir.
     
  34. freeride

    freeride Dec 18, 2012 Illinois
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    I would have thought that big beers in big bottles are typically primed for aging or have an inordinate amount of hops. Ergo, the ounce to oxygen ratio would be less, letting the hops be cool or letting the aging process be more fruitful.
     
  35. BrewStew58

    BrewStew58 Mar 29, 2011 New York

    I think it might be a movement to the wine-esque experience, pop a wine like bottle with a wine like ABV and drink it by yourself on the couch from the bottle in a wine like manner.
     
  36. Treyliff

    Treyliff Aug 10, 2010 West Virginia
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    Because they cost more.
     
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