Why are Wheat Beers widely considered to be "Girly?"

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  1. gardenstatepkwy

    gardenstatepkwy Initiate (137) Jun 1, 2014 New Jersey
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    I think Blue Moon is responsible for this perception. It's the fruit garnish I'm guessing.
     
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  2. Andrew041180

    Andrew041180 Defender (651) Mar 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    Wheat is from Venus, Barley is from Mars.

    I think I've subconsciously felt this stigma(?) for a while. I never really used to order wheat beers, maybe partly due to this? Since I've actually tried some, particularly the German versions, I'm too caught up in how good the beer tastes to be worried about such things. I'm also starting to advance into middle age, and I care less about other people's opinions in general.
     
  3. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Meyvn (1,011) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Girly compared to what?
     
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  4. johnInLA

    johnInLA Savant (922) Jun 12, 2005 California
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    As someone who drinks Imperial IPAs and Stouts frequently,
    I have to say I also enjoy a well made Witbier, Tripel, Hefeweizen, Pale Wheat Ale, and Gose.

    I think a better question is, when someone assigns gender to a beer style:

    Do you:
    1. Laugh, thinking its some sort of a joke
    2. Look at them oddly like they just arrived from another planet
    3. Or try to be sympathetic, for them being so embarrassingly misinformed

    :slight_smile:
     
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  5. spacecake9

    spacecake9 Meyvn (1,068) Apr 26, 2014 Illinois
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    Corona is a girly beer. Witbier, Tripel, Hefeweizen, Pale Wheat Ale and Gose are manly beers. All beers are manly beers - except Corona. Very girly beer.
     
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  6. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Poo-Bah (1,888) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland
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    I agree with this. There's been enough "Profiling" in this day and age. While I've never witnessed this stigma of "Girly" beers, I have seen a lot of Bahama Mamas being consumed by my sister.

    *Shakes his Head and goes back into his Cave*
     
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  7. Patches826

    Patches826 Savant (961) Aug 28, 2013 Massachusetts

    I feel like this stigma exists mainly amongst BMC drinkers. They see Blue Moon and Shock Top as unnecessarily sweetened versions of what they drink.

    Then again, there are plenty of new-age hopheads who view any style that isn't hop-forward as beneath them. My personal favorite are the ones who shit on anything with fruit in it, when they themselves clamor over juice bomb IPAs.
     
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  8. JayWhitson

    JayWhitson Crusader (794) Feb 25, 2015 Montana
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    anytime I'm trying to introduce women to craft beer I ask if they like chocolate, coffee, vanilla and bourbon...
     
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  9. MaltMilkshake

    MaltMilkshake Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2011 California

    Just like sours.
     
  10. guinness77

    guinness77 Meyvn (1,459) Jan 6, 2014 New York

    Not for nothing...take a plane to Germany, go into the first Biergarten you see and make a statement like that.

    I'd love to know how that turns out.
     
  11. Pahn

    Pahn Meyvn (1,473) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    because lots of people are stupid.
     
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  12. BeerWizard

    BeerWizard Disciple (331) Dec 22, 2012 Colorado

    Ridiculous. Everyone knows the only truly effeminate style is pumpkin ale :wink:
     
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  13. TurkeyFeathers

    TurkeyFeathers Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2014 New York
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    I used to like them until I had complete mood swings, messed up my menstrul cycle , grew boobs, had the urge to go shopping and thought Brad Pitt was hot. I've stopped drinking them and all is back to normal. Enjoying my stouts , IPA and BW's from now on :astonished:
     
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  14. spicoli00

    spicoli00 Defender (642) Jul 6, 2005 Indiana

    try a weizenbock, shit will change your life
     
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  15. vader06

    vader06 Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2011 Michigan

    I will admit I love Wheat beers but if it wasn't from drinking that style of beer I would have not tried the more hoppier beers that I have grown to love.
     
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  16. Tsar_Riga

    Tsar_Riga Poo-Bah (2,561) Sep 9, 2013 Indiana
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    Girly beer? Stigma?

    If someone wants to call a beer girly, that's their choice, and if they view that as negative, that's their problem. If you consider a beer being called girly a stigma, that's your problem.

    Drink what you like, and ignore the idiots who think there is something sex-specific about it.
     
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  17. BKBassist

    BKBassist Disciple (390) Jan 24, 2013 New York

    I don't like to stereotype, and I know lots of women who are super beer knowledgeable and enjoy a wide array of styles, but it does seem that the entry point for craft for many females in the northeast is Allagash White.
     
  18. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 California

    Historically Barleywines are "girly".....Because women would drink them and talk at night while men would drink low abv beers and work during the day.
     
  19. John_Beeryman

    John_Beeryman Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2014 Virginia

    This is news to me.
     
  20. FaradayUncaged

    FaradayUncaged Defender (663) Oct 24, 2014 Michigan

    This combined with the marketing hoopla that Bud Light/Budweiser are, by comparison, 'manly' beers.

    I'll have an Ayinger please!
     
  21. dgmirelli

    dgmirelli Aspirant (271) Mar 21, 2015 New York

    drink all those w exception of witbier, just don't like the finish but I never thought those who do like 'em are girly or not manly......on the flip side don't know many women who drink those styles religiously.
     
  22. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,765) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    And this is predicated by a preposition because...? Allagash White truly is a "girly beer?"

    Sorry -- I'm putting words in your mouth because it sounded weird for you to use the preposition, but Belgian Wit is just another beer style, good in its own right when done well, which Allagash is, and can not be categorized in any sort of gender distinction -- positive or negative.

    I once took my wife a few blocks out of our way in Chicago because I heard a spot nearby (to me, anyway) had Allagash Wit on tap. She rolled her eyes at me. :wink:
     
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  23. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Poo-Bah (2,280) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut
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    News to me. There have been several BAs who have started posts recently concerning people questioning the OPs masculinity over their beer choices...all from the same few states.:astonished:
     
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  24. Gemmell

    Gemmell Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2014 Illinois

    I feel like you made this up because you couldn't come up with a better idea for a thread. I have never heard any style of beer to be "girly". Even fruit beers and vegetable beers are widely consumed by all genders openly. I love myself a good raspberry sour (delicious). A buddy of mine who would consider himself a man's man, drinks only wheat beers and Coors Light. But to bring some type of answer to your un-researched question; a lot of woman find hops and bitters to be aggressive in beers, but so do a lot of men. Once your palate adjusts and grows accustom to those flavors, you become an IPA fiend.
     
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  25. didgeboy

    didgeboy Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2006 Washington

    I know about 5,000 US Army Tankers, Infantry and Cav Scouts that would be willing to show anyone that drinking wheat beer (Weisse) is the epitome of bad ass. Cold War warriors survived on Hefe Weisse up until GW1. It aint girly. The bubble gum faux "wheat beers" that American brewers are slinging, maybe, but not true wheat beers. As an example some of my favorites; Hoegaarden, Maisle's, Schniderweisse. I'll just leave this here. . . .cheers.
     
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  26. Kuaff

    Kuaff Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2013 Alaska

    Really? Curious. How do you come to know this (source, etc.)?
     
  27. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,765) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Wait -- what happened after GW1? Did that bastard forbid Hefeweizen to the troops? :grinning::stuck_out_tongue: (kidding)
    Tell us your source for the stigma you reference in the OP. I don't doubt that the misconception is out there, but it's just ignorance at best.
     
  28. Hrodebert

    Hrodebert Aspirant (281) Sep 2, 2013 Michigan
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    I think you are mistaken.
     
  29. mstrcrwly

    mstrcrwly Aspirant (228) Dec 21, 2013 New York
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    Just drink whatever you want and don't worry about it...Girly Maaan..as Hanz & Franz from SNL would say..
     
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  30. Kuaff

    Kuaff Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2013 Alaska

    I'm always a little confused by the term "man's man."
     
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  31. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 California

    honestly I can't remember off the top of my head though I came across it while studying beer history for the certified cicerone test. I'll check my notes and reply to you some time later but I believe it was from the book IPA:brewing techniques which has very in depth history on brewing in England and the rise of the ipa.
     
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  32. BeerRebelMotorcycleClub

    BeerRebelMotorcycleClub Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2015 Colorado
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    So that's why bartenders have been giving me a raised eyebrow followed by a "You sure?" all these years after ordering a wheat beer. I never knew.
     
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  33. lester619

    lester619 Devotee (470) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    Don't forget to stick a pinky finger out.
     
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  34. BKBassist

    BKBassist Disciple (390) Jan 24, 2013 New York

    Merely an observation as a bartender. A fairly sizable portion of my female customers will ask for Allagash White before even looking at the menu. More on average then men. Not to say the style is a "girly beer", I don't think that exists, but I've seen it in action. I have lots of older blue collar type guys come up an ask for a Bud Light (which I don't have), but I'd not categorize that as a "manly" beer in any way.
     
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  35. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (2,902) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    To be fair, I have heard of this (although it's been awhile). From BMC drinkers when I was more of a regular bar goer years and years ago. Comes from most of them (like Blue Moon or Oberon ) being served with a slice of fruit. Fruity drinks = girly at the bar, or at least at the dives I'd go to.
    Does no one remember the "Girl Drink Drunk" sketch from Kids in the Hall?
     
  36. Kuaff

    Kuaff Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2013 Alaska

    Ah, interesting. Thanks!
     
  37. rgordon

    rgordon Meyvn (1,085) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    Beer, masculinity, and femininity are things I've never correlated. A wheat beer in the morning does wonders for the spirit and rings back to genetic roots.
     
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  38. dank203

    dank203 Zealot (502) May 21, 2012 New Jersey

    I believe this stigma only applies to beers like hell or high watermelon
    in fact, fruit infused beers in general fit this stereotype more than just wheat beers
     
  39. Jirin

    Jirin Aspirant (227) Apr 28, 2013 Massachusetts

    I've noticed that among craft beers wheat beers with fruit flavors tend to be more accessible to non-craft drinking women than other beers. I'm not sure the stigma for men drinking wheat beers is there anymore unless maybe it's very citrus forward. At least not other than the stigma among craft drinkers for drinking lower ABV beers.
     
  40. punksinkhakis

    punksinkhakis Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2015 Colorado

    I mean, masculinity is fragile, socially constructed nonsense anyway, so...
     
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