Why do you call them "bottle shops?"

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  1. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Aspirant (272) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    I'm kinda new here so Im wondering why people here call them "bottle shops" and "beer stores" instead of liquor stores. Is liquor store a demeaning term or what ?
  2. sherm1016

    sherm1016 Initiate (199) Aug 10, 2009 Wisconsin
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    Where I grew up (SE PA), bottle shops, liquor stores, and beer distributors are all very different retail outlets.

    Why do some people call it soda versus pop versus Coke versus....?
  3. jbdpsu82

    jbdpsu82 Devotee (406) Aug 28, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Like above, a bottle shop in PA refers to a place that sells individual bottles, or at most, six packs; that's it (unless you count 12 packs of gross cheap beer). Cases of beer can only be purchased at actual beer distributors. So... a bottle shop is just that, a shop that sells bottles. Also, wine and spirits are sold at state-owned liquor stores, which sell no beer. So, there are liquor stores, beer distributors, and bottle shops.
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  4. TheBrewo

    TheBrewo Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2010 New York

    Certain stores only sell beer, and are therefor colloquially referred to as "(beer) bottle shops".
  5. eric5bellies

    eric5bellies Meyvn (1,394) Jun 9, 2006 Australia

    Not sure why we call them Bottle Shops here in Oz. I'm guessing its because they stock a load of Alcohol that mostly comes in bottles. In England they call them Off Licenses which I think relates to the customer having to drink the alcohol elsewhere, as the premises isn't licensed for the consumption of alcohol.
  6. nandemo1

    nandemo1 Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2011 Virginia
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    Similar thing in Virginia. Liquor/ABC stores are state owned and only sell spirits and some Virginia wines. "Bottle shops" are typically wine and beer stores that sell singles, six packs, cases, and kegs. Of course beer and wine is also sold in virtually every grocery too.
  7. rlcoffey

    rlcoffey Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2004 Kentucky

    Liquor Store is the term here too, because we dont have the legal separation. Same store sells liquor/wine/beer.

    Bottle shop is a weird term to me.
  8. Nectar

    Nectar Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2013 New Jersey

    I call liquor stores bottle shops.

    Less likely to be called an alcoholic when I go to the "bottle shop" 3 times a week
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  9. mkabull

    mkabull Disciple (385) Nov 2, 2007 Massachusetts
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    In New England you get your beer from the Packy.
  10. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2008 California

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  11. DerekMorgan

    DerekMorgan Disciple (372) Jan 15, 2013 Massachusetts
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    We call 'em 'packies'
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  12. youbrewidrink

    youbrewidrink Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2009 Vermont
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    No, that's where flatlanders get beer. In Vermont you get it anywhere, grocery stores, liquor stores, gas stations, mom & pop markets.
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  13. LeRose

    LeRose Meyvn (1,183) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Yeah - grew up calling it the packy...and around heah we have a cawffee cabinet with Autocrat syrup (barrel aged in plastic drums, of course). It's wicked pissah!

    A coffee cabinet is an ice cream-based beverage found almost exclusively in Rhode Island and southeastern Massachusetts, consisting of coffee ice cream, coffee syrup, and milk. The ingredients are mixed in a drink blender ormilkshake blender
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  14. TheBeerDad

    TheBeerDad Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2012 Michigan
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    A bottle shop to me is a place that is "craft beer friendly". For example there are two liquor stores near my house, one gets every shorts release, every founders backstage, kbs, bcbs, etc. even though it looks like a hole in the wall scummy liquor store, this is a bottle shop. The other liquor store which is a stone throw away has a selection that offers corona and Mississippi mud, this is just a liquor store. The term bottle shop lets other BA's know where they can get great beer, if you want a fifth of popov any store will do.
  15. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    Where you and are in RI they are called liquor stores because they actually serve liquor. Other states can't sell beer and liquor together. Those places that sell beer only, or beer in wine in some places are called "bottle shops." Despite living amongst many "liquor stores" I find myself now referring to some of them as bottle shops myself. It makes sense given the language here on BA, as it is more universally understood.

    I haven't said "the packie" in a while, I should start folding that one back in. Instead of saying "I am going to the bottle shop to grab some barleywine." I am going to start saying, "Gotta make a packie run!" again.
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  16. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    Isn't packie/packy just a RI term like bubbler?
  17. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    No, New England.
  18. dmeadows

    dmeadows Initiate (0) Aug 6, 2002 New York

    Autocrat syrup. A fond part of my chilldhood, as my mother's family is from southeastern MA.
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  19. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    Excuse me, it's "bubblah" not bubbler. You take that fancy college boy talk back to Barrington.
  20. Providence

    Providence Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island

    I have always been curious as to what the result would be if I chucked a dash of Autocrat in an Imperial Stout.
  21. shredder83

    shredder83 Devotee (423) Feb 21, 2013 Illinois
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    In IL there is no liquor separation laws, I say bottle shops to reference places that have a good selection of craft brews
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  22. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Zealot (502) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    When my wife moved to NY with me years ago, she was completely confused by our mile shakes. Apparently in RI it's actually some disgusting concoction of milk, syrup, and ice that is just shaken and has no ice cream. Then she served me some kind of clear soup with clam and potatoes, and called it chowder. I almost dumped her on the spot.
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  23. frazbri

    frazbri Crusader (740) Oct 29, 2003 Ohio

    Ohio's another state that Liquor stores are not totally synonymous with beer stores. It's a bit of a holdover from the not so distant past when hard alcohol was only sold in state-run stores. Now, almost every store in the state that sells liquor (over 40 proof) also sells beer and wine. Not every store that sells beer and wine is licensed to sell liquor. (lots of little quirky rules in the buckeye state)
  24. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Meyvn (1,248) Feb 27, 2009 Illinois
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    I usually just call the beer stores.
  25. watsonmd

    watsonmd Initiate (0) May 16, 2009 Georgia

    Of course it's a bottle shop. Everyone knows you aren't buying the beer, rather the bottle. Especially true if you have ever tried to find a difficult to locate beer on eEbay, as their policy is that you must place the following in your ad for the rare bottle...(ie Westy XII, Utopias, etc)

    1) The value of the item is in the collectible container, not its contents.
    2) The container has not been opened and any incidental contents are not intended for consumption.
    3) The item is not available at any retail outlet, and the container has a value that substantially exceeds the current retail price of the alcohol in the container.
    4) The seller will take all appropriate steps to ensure that the buyer is of lawful age in the buyer and seller's jurisdiction (generally 21 years of age).
    5) Buyers and sellers both ensure that the sale complies with all applicable laws and shipping regulations.
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  26. mychalg9

    mychalg9 Champion (849) Apr 8, 2010 Illinois
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    I always felt it was to distinguish the good beer stores from the shitty ones.
  27. OneDropSoup

    OneDropSoup Meyvn (1,048) Dec 9, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I wish the term "case shop" would come into use, to distinguish between retail beer "distributors" (most of which don't even actually "distribute" beer) & wholesale distributors (which do).
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  28. zstef99

    zstef99 Initiate (41) Dec 25, 2008 New York

    In New York, beer is not sold in liquor/wine stores, which is a bummer because it greatly reduces the number of potential craft beer outlets.
  29. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Poo-Bah (1,807) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey
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    It has to do with where you are from and the laws for that particular state.

    In New Jersey beer, wine and liquor is sold at the same place. They are called liquor stores here.
    The exception is some bars have a license that lets them sell beer and wine for off premise consumption. This is "packaged goods" shop. Which is important to know if you want to get beer after 10.
  30. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Zealot (502) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Dude, you can get growler fills at gas stations. No one feels bad for you. :slight_smile:
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  31. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Because where I live you can't buy beer and liquor in the same place. You have liquor/wine shops which sell liquor and wine. You have beverage distributors which sell beer by the case and soda. Then you have some supermarkets that sell singles and six packs and then you have bottle shops which specialize in singles of beer. Mostly fancy rare beers.
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  32. Giovannilucano

    Giovannilucano Devotee (447) Feb 24, 2011 New Jersey

    I really enjoy my local bottle shops, such as Hawthornes in Philadelphia and The Bottle Shop, which is located close to the house of my grandparents in the heart of South Philly. Everytime I go, even when I have not been there I am greeted kindly and I love chatting with the knowledgable staff who enjoys what I enjoy.
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  33. sherm1016

    sherm1016 Initiate (199) Aug 10, 2009 Wisconsin
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    To add to the confusion, my understanding is that the proprietor of a bottle shop in PA can walk into a retail beer distributor, buy a case of beer, and they go sell it by the bottle at his bottle shop.
  34. braugon

    braugon Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2013 Connecticut

    I don't, I call them Package Stores or "the packie" for short :wink:
  35. LeRose

    LeRose Meyvn (1,183) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    The differences are actually interesting, all kidding aside. Visitors we have from Florida don't understand why they can't buy beer at the grocery store and until recently couldn't buy alcohol on a Sunday. I think some of the WallyWorld superstores carry beahs. The "packies" here carry liquor, wine, and beer so basically adults say liquor store. I was in upstate New York, went into liquor stores and that is what they had - no beer. They sent me to the local gas station with a "good selection"...NOT!

    I know the Wegman's in MA ended up where it is in part because of the liquor license. I forget the entire story, but I recall they were going much closer to Boston, but no licenses were "available" for wherever it was they were looking to build.

    And yes! Water fountain = bubblah. I think some of that stuff is definitely regional to RI and SE Mass. Of course, a proper resident of SE Mass considers the state of RI to be a western suburb (just kiddin', Providence, just kiddin').
  36. imfrommichigan

    imfrommichigan Aspirant (270) Jul 12, 2012 Utah
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    For me bottle shop makes it sound more like a hobby. Liquor store or beer store makes it just sound tacky even though they are technically a store. Shop just sounds and feels niiiiice.:wink:
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  37. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    I use it to differentiate a store with a great beer selection from a liquor store that has nothing but bombers of Natty Ice.
  38. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    Brilliant idea! Autocrat makes everything better!
  39. beerborn

    beerborn Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2012 Georgia

    Its a SHOP that sells BOTTLES.
  40. Mag00n

    Mag00n Aspirant (208) Nov 21, 2008 New York

    I go to the bottle shop to get some head(y)
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