Why doesn't Sierra Nevada have a "standard" production IPA?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by 395er, Oct 16, 2013.

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  1. 395er

    395er Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2011 California

    This may have been covered a lot previously, but with Torpedo being an "Extra" IPA, Ruthless being a rye, Celebration a seasonal, there seems to be a conspicuous gap in SN's year round lineup for a straight up American/West Coast IPA. Or am I missing something? I saw a retired one that got pretty poor ratings here in the reviews.
     
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  2. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    What's the difference between Extra IPA and regular IPA?
    7.2% falls within the standard IPA abv guideline.
     
  3. CMUbrew

    CMUbrew Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 Michigan

    Torpedo is classified as an American IPA.
     
  4. Lordquackingstic

    Lordquackingstic Pundit (998) Jun 14, 2011 New York
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    I look at Torpedo as their year round IPA...because it is. They just put extra on there because they want to, it doesn't really mean anything. Yes, it's higher ABV than most single IPAs, but it's just a term. I personally am in love with Torpedo and couldn't ask for a better year round IPA from them.
     
  5. Tayloraphilips

    Tayloraphilips Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2013 Texas

    It's the Pale Ale.
     
  6. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    They once had one - Sierra Nevada India Pale Ale (don't remember the exact years, but I sure wouldn't go by the dates on some of those reviews.)

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  7. BrettHead

    BrettHead Initiate (0) Sep 18, 2010 Nebraska

    They do...it's called Torpedo.
     
  8. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I've always considered SNPA to be an IPA. It's certainly hoppy enough.
     
  9. carolinabeerguy

    carolinabeerguy Pooh-Bah (2,035) Oct 10, 2005 North Carolina
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    Anyone know why they stopped brewing this? I remember really enjoying this one when I first got into craft beer. Looking at my reviews, I notice that I reviewed it back in March 2006. The review says I wasn't really into IPAs at that time. How things change...
     
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  10. opwog

    opwog Initiate (0) Jun 16, 2008 Minnesota

    Wow, I have never seen that before and I lived in CA for the last 23 years. While scrolling through the reviews, I noticed that the reviewers were disproportionately outside CA, for a CA based brewery (yes, acknowledging the omnipresence of SN). I am wondering if this was made specifically for markets outside of CA, because I would think that label would at least look familiar to me and that there would be a lot more CA based reviewers.
     
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  11. Kadonny

    Kadonny Pooh-Bah (2,616) Sep 5, 2007 Florida
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    Stop with the madness, please I can't take it anymore.

    An IPA is more than just hops. A good IPA has a huge malt flavor and way more body than a pale ale. SNPA is a pale ale, not an IPA no matter how hoppy it is.
     
  12. Kadonny

    Kadonny Pooh-Bah (2,616) Sep 5, 2007 Florida
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    Torpedo is their everyday IPA, and a damn good one at that. I see they are now putting it in sixtels....happy days!
     
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  13. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    It was a British style IPA and most did not "get it" on the review sites. It had its following. I had it at the taproom circa 2007 and thought it was a good IPA.
     
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  14. 395er

    395er Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2011 California

    I really enjoy Torpedo. Just didn't seem like a "typical" IPA. Not that they have to produce one. Just seemed a bit odd. That IPA that's referenced above, I had only seen here in the archives.
     
  15. garuda

    garuda Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Pennsylvania

    It's Torpedo. You're thinking too much.
     
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  16. sefus12

    sefus12 Pundit (938) Sep 7, 2006 Wisconsin
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    Yep, Torpedo is their standard IPA. And it's one of the more under-appreciated IPAs out there. Fantastic brew.
     
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  17. dougfur

    dougfur Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2011 New York

    Wait, are you serious?
     
  18. bayareahustla

    bayareahustla Zealot (656) Jul 13, 2012 California
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    I still own and wear that ipa logo shirt, bought it in Chico in and had the beer but didn't really enjoy it.
     
  19. GottaHaveMyHops

    GottaHaveMyHops Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2013 Minnesota

    Like garuda says, this seems like overthinking. Torpedo is an American IPA, my guess is that it is essentially the same recipe as when they called it just IPA, but then changed the name with the introduction of the Hop Torpedo dry-hopper used to produce it. This could also be why they call it an extra IPA, because this dry hopping technique is something special above, constituting the "extra." That would be my guess, if anyone thinks I'm wrong let me know..
     
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  20. palmdalethriller

    palmdalethriller Zealot (624) Dec 26, 2007 California

    Yeah - Torpedo is their American IPA. Also, does it matter? There are so so so so many IPAs on the market, what does SN have to gain from adding another? Especially considering they already make Ruthless, Celebration and Torpedo. Even if they create a successful IPA brand, there's a chance that it would cannibalize sales from Torpedo.

    Not every brewery needs to brew an IPA. Yeah, it's the most popular style in the segment, but in a lot of ways it's hurting craft beer. you see it on this site - if a beer isn't hoppy enough, or strong enough, or bursting with some sort of flavor enough, it gets bashed as being dull and boring. It's kind of like the antithesis of the 1980s and before when most beer tasted the same. Then, it was all pale lagers. Now, (at least in the craft segment) it's all hoppy IPA.

    If you like IPAs a lot, by all means keep drinking them. It's a free country. If you like beer, branch out. Find a good lager brewer, or a good session beer brewer, and get to know beer at a real level. There's so much more than hops, you guys.

    Not saying I don't love IPAs and hoppy beers, just that we shouldn't get so caught up with labels and hops that threads like "Why doesn't SN brew a standard IPA" pop up. It really shouldn't be a concern.
     
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