Why don't you review?

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  1. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Poo-Bah (3,440) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    I'll answer the open question first: Actually, yes. Even though I know that "citrus" is a word that will come up very commonly, I would try to identify what exact citrus fruit(s) I detected: orange, grapefruit, lemon, etc. I would yes, also embellish and be as eloquent as possible. I have a very "all or nothing" personality, meaning if I do something, I go all the way. That's actually what kept me from starting to review beers for the longest time: I felt I wasn't worthy to essentially be a beer judge. But I relocated to a place where I knew very few people and had a lot of free time as a result, so I actually started for 2 reasons: so I could remember what beers I'd already had and boredom. Lol. Anyways, yeah, if I write a review it's gonna take me 5 minutes, bare minimum. Which might not seem like a lot of time, but when you're out with friends and you have a new beer, it's kinda rude to be on your phone reviewing a beer when you're supposed to be socializing*

    I guess, to summarize, if I was going to start reviewing beers again, it would be so I get paid for it. Again, if I find a reason to go for Level 2 Cicerone you bet your ass I'd be back on here reviewing like crazy. But right now, beer is still just a secondary hobby for me. My primary hobby is music (that I hope to make into a career) and my occupation is ride share driver, and both of those take up enough of my time. There just aren't enough hours in the day

    *Yes I know I could simply rate it real quick and review it later but, not to be snobby (in an anti-beer way. Lol. Never thought I'd be going the other direction), but there are so many things on my to-do list that are higher than "review that beer I rated the other night"

    PS Very ironic this thread should pop up when it did. I'm at Zebulon right now and their Malverde West Coast IPA is one of the best beers I've tasted in months. I might do a quick review of it. We'll see if I have the time :wink:
  2. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Poo-Bah (3,440) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    ^^This too

    Although, correct me if I'm wrong, it's RateBeer that owns BA right?
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  3. hopley

    hopley Poo-Bah (1,892) Feb 24, 2010 Massachusetts
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    No, unless there has been some recent change, Untapped bought BA a couple years ago. RateBeer in fact might be owned by one of the macro breweries but I never pay much attention to it so I’m not sure.
  4. riptorn

    riptorn Zealot (538) Apr 26, 2018 North Carolina
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    I’ve reviewed 20 beers on BA in just over 3.5 years. Why don’t I review more? I’m an impulse buyer and don’t read reviews with the intent of looking for a beer to buy, and I’m not convinced most other folks are much different. Plus, I drink too fast and remember too slow to write stuff down.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure BA was not bought by Untappd but by Next Glass, which also owns Untappd.
  5. rgordon

    rgordon Meyvn (1,306) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    I'll rate beers when I feel like it, but I am not compelled to do so. I'm competitive in many ways but not about beer. I have my own system and it is private mostly.
  6. beerluvr

    beerluvr Meyvn (1,232) Jan 2, 2001 Canada (ON)

    I used to review every single beer but have long ago stopped reviewing anything pretty much when I realized I'm the only one reading them!

    All I do these days is add the occasional beer to the database here and do a basic rating.
  7. BigIronH

    BigIronH Poo-Bah (1,830) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    That is correct.
  8. WillieThreebiers

    WillieThreebiers Poo-Bah (8,594) Apr 26, 2012 Connecticut

    As others have said, it's rude and awkward in social situations, and my memory of a beer the day after having a few is less than reliable. As someone who rarely drinks the same beer twice I'm not sure how much the two beers I've already had are effecting my opinon of the third. And things are even more convoluted on those day where it 6 or 7.
  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Poo-Bah (1,907) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    I've judged enough beers in competitions, I don't need to judge rate beers online.
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  10. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Poo-Bah (2,655) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    I decided early on the number system was something I didnt want to get involved with. Is there such a thing as a perfect beer? 5? In the eyes of the be holder yes, but inreality no - because nature is not perfect. That being said Ive been hooked on NBS/NBW since shortly after I joined BA. I like the poetic nature and the fact that we can express more than our opinions on beers: Family, work, pics and everyday and week occurrences. Makes me feel like we are all one big family. I still like the format presently but the original NBS was my favorite. I used to really make an event out of Sunday afternoons. Pictures, stories etc. Ive backed off a bit because cooking in a restaurant takes alot of time. And besides cooking I do a crapload of writing. Sometimes I just want to enjoy a beer and feel obligated to write several paragraphs. I dont think just writing a number next to L, S, T, F, O is very interesting or helpful to anyone. I have no problem with folks writing thousands of reviews. I know it aint easy. To each his/her own.
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  11. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Poo-Bah (2,655) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    ☆and not feel obligated☆
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  12. champ103

    champ103 Poo-Bah (5,589) Sep 3, 2007 Texas

    People contribute to this site in many different ways, so you shouldn't be expected to review. Many contribute equally, if not more, through posts and articles and facts shared being just as important. I only review because I like to, and feel it a bit cathartic to try and articulate why I like or don't like something (I have no idea if they are helpful or in anyway well written, just something I ended up liking to do) That is it, and I appreciate I have this outlet for it, finding the other unnamed sites entirely lacking in how I go about this. So enjoy this site for what it is, contribute what you can, and in the way you feel easiest and best from your point of view.
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  13. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Aspirant (297) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    I figured that was what you meant
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  14. rousee

    rousee Meyvn (1,071) Aug 13, 2004 Massachusetts

    I used to but I always preferred reviewing places rather than beers anyways.
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  15. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Aspirant (297) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    I haven't lived in an area with multiple places to drink for so long I quit going out to drink, and living outside of a small town for the past 40 something years would require driving to and from. When I do see review of places I feel less confident than with beers because there may be 1000 reviews of a beer but 5 reviews of a bar.
  16. SeaCros

    SeaCros Initiate (53) Nov 28, 2021 Florida

    For me it just depends on how I feel at the time. I drink a lot of beer and try to expand my range. I agree at times it can be overwhelming to try to analyze a beer when all I want to do it enjoy it. Most of the time if I review the beer will be well after I have had it.
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  17. riptorn

    riptorn Zealot (538) Apr 26, 2018 North Carolina
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    ^ ^ ^ this, although overwhelming might be not be dead on for me, maybe more along the lines of forgetting or being disinterested in the interruption of stopping and writing it down.
    It's akin to folks being so intent on capturing an experience (concert, protest, Grand Canyon, etc.) on their phone that they fail to fully enjoy the experience in the moment.
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  18. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Aspirant (245) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    There's always a game on to watch while I'm drinking :clap:
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,753) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania

    And lately while watching Philly teams lots of drinking is needed. :grimacing:

  20. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Aspirant (245) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

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  21. Monkeyknife

    Monkeyknife Poo-Bah (3,578) Jan 8, 2007 Missouri
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    I stopped when I felt like my reviews were starting to all sound the same. There is only so many ways to describe IPAs, IIPAs and BA Stouts. Instead, I've been trying to focus my ratings to land on an overall number I have in my head for every new beer I drink.
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  22. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (8,310) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming

    Beverly Owen > Pat Priest
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  23. rgordon

    rgordon Meyvn (1,306) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    That is so well considered.. Reviews is one thing, but the info and banter are best. I like the humor the most.
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  24. woodchipper

    woodchipper Poo-Bah (1,585) Oct 25, 2005 Connecticut
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    Well I do review approximately 1-beer per week. However, there is a very simple reason for the beers I don't review- Socialisation. Alot of the beers new-to-me that I drink I do in a social setting with friends and/or family. I don't want to be "that guy" that ignores everyone while working on his phone.
    The one exception is when I'm drinking with just my wife. She's more that happy to have some time with her phone also.
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  25. spersichilli

    spersichilli Aspirant (293) Apr 26, 2018 California

    On here? Because there's no app for it and a lot of the newer beers don't have entries. I check everything in on Untappd though and write as thorough reviews as I can most of the time.

    Only time I check beers in here is top250 beers or if I have a really special bottle that I feel warrants a fuller writeup than untapped allows

    Honestly I'd rather drink a beer by myself so I'm able to think about it without distraction. I love the social aspect of drinking too but it's harder to put together cogent thoughts on the liquid in that setting
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  26. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Poo-Bah (1,806) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    This is mainly me. I drink a lot of beers. Many are new to me. I'm highly competitive and see reviewing beers as such. However this has never been an aspect of my life I've felt the need to excel at. To each their own.
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  27. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (2,803) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I wish I could do that. The further away I get from my first impressions the more the details are muddied.
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  28. JrGtr

    JrGtr Devotee (472) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts

    I don't review on here. I knew a guy who ran a local beer blog a ways back, so I did a couple guest reviews for him, then another local website a couple years ago asked for ones, so |I did a video review for them.
    But generally I don't bother because I'm just that lazy. I want to crack one open in front of the |TV or whatever and zone out. If presented with a beer, I can usually remember if I've had it or not, but I've never really been one to keep lists or counts. If I'm at a fest or something, I'll usually just mark down the ones I try, and occasionally a note or two about it, but that's mostly if it's either exceptional, or exceptionally bad.
    I've run across people now and then who seem to write novels about each beer, be it at a fest or a bar. I just want to enjoy it.
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  29. thebeeremptor

    thebeeremptor Disciple (345) Aug 12, 2018 California
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    I replied to the opposite thread already but thought I'd chime in here too because I like this question just as much as the other.

    I don't review a beer if it's in a public setting, like a taproom or bar.
    Dumb reason:
    • I have a particular style for the photos I take with identical background/lighting; the conditions away from home are different so they would not match up with all the other pictures of my reviewed beer. Chalk it up to some OCD or something.
    Practical reason:
    • If I'm out at a brewery/taproom/bar, I'm with friends and my time there is being spent with them, not the beer. The beer is just the facilitator of that meeting.
    The other thing I'd say here that I didn't bring up in my reply to the "Why do you review?" thread is that I don't consider my notes on beers "reviews" personally.

    Review feels very definitive. Beer is so subjective and subject to change. It doesn't feel the same as something like media that gets traditionally reviewed: once the movie/album/etc. gets released, it's rare that it gets altered after the fact. You can experience a beer and the brewery may alter it because of feedback, process revision/improvement, material availability, etc.

    Additionally, I'm always learning about it that I feel like my "review" of something right now could be different later with further knowledge and experience: I could detect a flaw or notice something really exciting/wonderful I didn't notice before that could drastically alter my take on it.
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  30. beer_beer

    beer_beer Defender (677) Feb 13, 2018 Finland

    I need to start believe I don't review. One year since last, and they came very scarcely before. Do like to list, image and also rate though, for getting the beer 'visible'. The rating already shows what I think about the beer as a whole (at that moment :slight_smile:). Can't put good words to the experience, nuances. It is what it is, usually good!
    #70 beer_beer, Dec 7, 2021
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  31. bwarner2015

    bwarner2015 Initiate (99) Mar 25, 2016 Connecticut

    Short answer… I don’t review because of my wife. Lol!
    I am a husband and father of two teenage boys. So when drinking a beer at night it is usually with my wife in our down time. A couple of times I picked up my phone to do a review and she was like “put down your phone and relax. You are on screens (at work) all day.”
    Another reason is that I don’t really enjoy writing reviews. I have written only a handful and i only did them out of obligation to try and contribute to the site. In some of my past posts where I may have questioned BAs scoring metrics, some folks commented on my lack of reviews indicating that I shouldn’t be able to complain about scoring if I don’t review. I will review again, but it will be few and far between.
    That being said, I truly appreciate all those who do review!
  32. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Devotee (474) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts

    For me it comes down to retaining my ability to choose. If I like a beer and feel motivated to share my thoughts - I will review. If I don’t - I won’t. But the pressure I see being exerted by Advocates can be suffocating. An expectation of 500 reviews or more or my opinion holds no weight - and the details they require - I mean how many adjectives exist to describe mouthfeel? For me - I don’t like my beer review liberty being encroached.
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  33. izzyismyrott

    izzyismyrott Disciple (365) Jan 5, 2015 Indiana

    Same as @bwarner2015 , wife and for me 2 young kids.
    My 1st several years being on Beer Advocate I would use other people's reviews while I was trying a new beer. 1st I would take a couple drinks to see what I tasted, what I smelled and all that. Then I would look up the reviews on that beer, try the beer again to see if I could pick up what the reviewer thought. The vanilla, barrel, coffee and so on. I appreciated those reviews!! maybe in a way it helped me develop my palate. At the time there were a couple fellow advocates, @Sabtos is one for sure, that could describe exactly what I was tasting in a new beer.
    The reviews never influenced what I bought but they did play a role in maybe a higher $$ valued bottle I would trade for.
    So please keep reviewing beers!!
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  34. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (10,502) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    I appreciate the call out and am gladdened to know that some people get some value out of my thoughts, cheers Jake!
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  35. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (5,491) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    This is something I struggle with while reviewing similar beers, but I always justify it as I'm recording what I experience. Somedays I manage a better syntax, or tasteful writing, and other days it's barebones, but regardless, the experience I have with the beer is what is recorded.
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  36. UrbanCaveman

    UrbanCaveman Meyvn (1,126) Sep 30, 2014 Ohio
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    That, more or less exactly.

    As someone literally unable to ever develop a palate for IPAs, I'm probably among roughly 0.00001% of the userbase here. So my reviews are for me, and often contain some form of disclaimer about my palate particularities in the event that anyone else ever bothers reading them. :laughing:
  37. beer_beer

    beer_beer Defender (677) Feb 13, 2018 Finland

    My new idea is I may stop at rating 200 beers at BA, and then gradually increasing my reviews of the already rated from the current six. Untappd may be more suitable for fast rating. Best of both worlds!
  38. defunksta

    defunksta Poo-Bah (1,949) Jan 18, 2019 North Dakota
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    I understand and respect the stance not to review. But in the case of "who really cares?" and "making up my own mind without influence" then I don't understand why visit this site in the first place.
    I think BeerAdvocate supports and champions beer reviews. I think collaboration and comparing and contrasting beer reviews and beer opinions are what make this site what it is.
  39. Bshaw22

    Bshaw22 Champion (889) Aug 29, 2013 Wisconsin

    This explains very thoroughly as to why I/we should review beers. Thanks!
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  40. mactrail

    mactrail Poo-Bah (12,309) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    This does seem to be a SoCal issue, but I suppose we shouldn't pick on enthusiasts of a once well-known Dodger...:rolling_eyes:
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