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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by sandiego67, Feb 15, 2013.
This one? (I think there are a number of sites with the same graph.
I don't chug beer so the idea that "My beer isn't in the glass long enough to skunk" (less that a minute? really?) doesn't work.
It's an interesting question from an academic standpoint. I'm gonna buy a stein.
Lone Star used a very opaque black glass that was touted as being very light protective. Owens-Illinois also supplies those new black bottles for Beck's which I guess are essentially the same as the ones they made in the '60's for Lone Star. I read an interview with a O-I exec about they new bottles (specifically about Miller's Vortex bottle that they designed) and the black glass is supposedly manufactured using an expensive two-step process. Still surprised that AB used that black bottle for Beck's Sapphire but not for Budweiser Black Crown.
I'd like to see someone shotgun a ten fidy...
And it's been said that bottled beer can become light-struck in less than one minute in bright sun, after a few hours in diffuse daylight, and in a few days under normal fluorescent lighting.
Sounds like a buncha bs to me. I believe Miller beers in the clear bottles always tasted like Hell. But..
dunno if you're joking or whatever, but miller uses tetrahop extract, which is laboratory-engineered to be skunk-resistant
That quote appears to be one from The Practical Brewer (1977), from the Master Brewers Association of the Americas. I'm sure they'd be happy to hear of your research that disproves it. They're having a technical conference later in the year and are currently calling for papers-
Share your technological breakthroughs and latest techniques with the top brewers from around the world. Submit your abstract in March to be considered for an oral or poster presentation.
What amazes me about a thread like this is the many stupid commets made because one didn't the time to read the entire thread. I guess that would be asking too much!
I guess they don't teach those "black magic voodoo" subjects like chemistry and physics at some schools around the country.
Another solution: drink at night...like most people.
But beer does not get skunky after only a couple of minutes from sunlight.
You win. Screw science.
Seriously, a couple of minutes? Just because u read something doesn't mean it's true. Geez sheeple.
Maybe you don't smell the mercaptin. Maybe you drink dark beers that are not prone to skunking so fast.
I have experienced this in a minute or less on a bright sunny day, with an IPA (or pilsner, or koelsch) in direct sunlight. It depends on the beer, the sun intensity, and your ability to pick up the skunk aroma.
It appears that this thread has spawned three different factions:
1. Beer Drinkers that disagree with physics and chemistry - We will call them the Dullards
2. Beer Drinkers that don't care if light affects beer - We will call them the Unaffected
3. Beer Drinkers who recognize that light does affect beer and find it a mildly interesting topic - We will call them the Target Audience.
If anyone has ever been to an outdoor sporting event (Baseball game, football game, tennis, golf, etc) and had a cup of beer in a clear plastic cup, you can't deny that the first cold sip doesn't taste a lot different than the last sip.
If you are shotgunning $9 Coors lights at the ballgame at a rate that they would never get affected by sitting in the sun, God Bless you and your big disposable income budget.
ive done it, and i also dont recomend it. its a straight night ender
It's also because the beer gets warmer and cheap beer only is palatable really cold.
Who the hell told you that?
Why are you outside in the hot sun drinking a skunking beer when you could be inside at the computer watching movies and playing games.
Who the hell told you to make uninformed comments before reading the entire thread?
It's not a theory, it is a provable fact.
Man, I'm glad I don't drink my beer slowly, from a glass, at noon, in the middle of an open field along the equator.
I guess I am one of the Unaffected. If I'm drinking outside it's generally for some sort of social function or to enjoy the whether so I'm willing to sacrifice my beer not being 100%. It may not be optimal conditions, but I've never had to pour a beer.
Kinda sounds like a line from Naked Lunch.
Personally, I drink beer completely naked in my backyard. Kegstands only, so no skunking.
You should be more concerned about sunscreen than skunky beer.
Sounds like a good excuse to drink Sours!
Drink from the can if you're so concerned.
Wait until the mountains are blue, then pour into red dixie cup. Problem solved.
Now I know what to do with my empty BA Darklord bottles!
This is why I backed this project on kickstarter.
No pesky light getting thru my stainless steel! well.. other than that whole open top thing..
I've got the same one sitting down in the basement. This thread has inspired me to wash it out and use it, finally.
Heat polishing is ideal but considering the thickness of the glass and the glued lables probably won't even stand up well to regular use I'm guessing getting a flame near it and getting the glass hot enough to heat polish it won't do any good. Painted bottles could work great as long as the paint can stand the heat.
I can remember a few years back before I really got into beer, drinking Boddingtons from a glass while helping my step-father put a gazebo kit together. Anyways, in the bright July sun that glass of Boddingtons managed to noticeably skunk within ten minutes. And Boddingtons isn't even particularly hoppy.
I shudder to think what it would have done to an AIPA.
One of the most niche questions I have even seen. Interesting from an academic standpoint, but 99.99% of people would not think about this and instead will just drink their beer and enjoy it. If you are worried then just drink inside, drink only at night when using a clear glass, or drink fast when outside.
Budweiser sells billions of brown bottled beer that people drink directly out of... your theory is bunk.
Its a little different out of a bottle. a reasonable person expects the freshly opened bottle to be clean, but the same person would be warry about a brown pint glass that they couldn't visually inspect to make sure it was clean.
Say what? What does the same person do when they get an imperial stout in a clear glass? Does their head explode or do they just drink the beer and presume the glass is clean? I can honestly say I have never once inspected a glass prior to drinking a beer to make sure it was clean. I know my glasses are clean at home and I presume an establishment is washing their glassware before serving beverages.
What if we've experienced it? "A couple of minutes" might not do that much damage... But 10 minutes, definitely.