Women and Brewing. Few and Far Between? Or Prevalent?

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  1. Beegee305

    Beegee305 Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2015 Florida

    Saw an article yesterday about a woman pulling her weight in a brewery down here in Miami. Now me personally I have never seen this but I live down here in Miami where beer is just really starting to take flight.




    http://www.digestmiami.com/features/j-wakefield-brewery-miami-women-brewer

    Above is a video of said youngster putting in some real work.

    My question is how common is this nation and world wide?

    Also, her being a professional baker makes her almost the perfect beer brewing protege? No? especially when it comes to treatments and the likes. She makes some good points.

    Anyhow enjoy the video
    :slight_smile:

    would love some feedback.
     
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  2. Mike_Aguirre

    Mike_Aguirre Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2015 Mexico

    In my local homebrew club there are 3 women, one of them owns a microbrewery and is certified by Siebel.
     
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  3. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,104) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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  4. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    Definitely a minority. But I would not say rare. I would say 25% of our brew club is women, and two work as brewers.
     
  5. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    I know of one owned and ran by Women. I am sure there are more, or soon will be. In the old days women made all the beer. but history is not something American's love much of....lol
     
  6. smogfood

    smogfood Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Wisconsin

    Keep 'em barefoot, not pregnant, and chained to the brew kettle, I say. But seriously folks, the way craft beer continues to grow it's inevitable that more women will be getting in the game. Good, more beer!
     
  7. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,640) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    In my experience, women are underrepresented in craft beer. I think the craft scene would be improved if more women were involved in brewing. As we have seen in a number of examples, women are just as capable, if not more capable of performing any task involved in historically male dominated professions, so the more women in this craft, the better. I would imagine many agree with that statement, or at the very least are apathetic. So the question becomes, what can or should be done about it? While there are a number of sociological factors that drive anyone to brew, which I will stay away from for now, I think the least the beeradvocate community can do is provide a less ignorant environment. Eliminating the blatant sexism and misogyny as well as their more subtle forms (ie the "start your girlfriend of with a fruit beer" comments) that are prevalent on this board will help.
     
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  8. StartedwithSAM

    StartedwithSAM Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2015 Virginia

    I know one young, very talented female brewer at DFH in Delaware and I'm sure there are plenty more. As with any craft industry it's about sparking interest at an early age and removing any "social barriers" that may still exist within such industries. The best society can do is not make a big deal if a woman is or isn't working in the industry, in this day and age it's the woman's choice whether she wants to brew or not. When society gets to the point then it has achieved something.
     
  9. El_Condor

    El_Condor Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2014 Massachusetts

    Agreed. There is no reason that women cannot be as much a part of brewing as men. Indeed, it would only be a benefit to the complexity and diversity of what we all get to enjoy in the end - as smogfood so succinctly put it: "more beer!"
    But it will take genuine acknowledgement and effort on the part of current brewers to reach out and encourage women to follow their passion into the brewhouse; everyone knows that a club that is either strongly "guy-ish" or "girlish" will make the other gender uncomfortable or hesitant to enter, regardless of the intent of its members.

    I also applaud Beer Advocate in allowing a potentially challenging and sticky topic such as this one to be discussed. I'm sure no one wants flamewars of any kind on their forums, but an important issue discussed passionately and reasonably is always a helpful and productive thing!
     
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  10. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,294) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    A brewer who happens to be female, Tonya Cornett, has created several beers that I just love, including one that's really high on my all-time favorites list, Ching Ching from bend Brewing. She's now with 10Barrel, but her recipes live on at Bend.
     
  11. GuidedByBill

    GuidedByBill Zealot (537) May 13, 2012 Massachusetts

    It's becoming very prevalent in the Boston area, matter of fact the cover article for this weeks DigBoston (free weekly) was all about women brewers in the city
     
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  12. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    Does diversity really HAVE to exist, though? Not every culture/demographic is into the same things as everyone else. I mean, does it make any difference in the end who makes what?
     
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  13. frazbri

    frazbri Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2003 Ohio

    Obviously fewer women brewers than men, but more women are entering the biz. Black Cloister, Toledo's newest brewery's head brewer is female. I haven't had a chance to get there, but I'm looking forward to a visit soon.
     
  14. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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  15. El_Condor

    El_Condor Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2014 Massachusetts

    That's a good and important question. Diversity in and of itself has no value, it's just diversity. It becomes an urgent topic, however, when people want to freely participate in the world, but not all are officially or unofficially welcomed. Think of when, just LESS than one hundred years ago, men asked all these same questions about voting! How ludicrous that argument seems today, but people are still with us who lived during that primitive era. And that that question must be asked (and I feel it essential that it is) is telling of how much further we still have to go.

    But just on this thread and in the broader world of brewing, we see plenty of examples of women and other underrepresented minorities who've gained a passion for brewing (and I will count myself among them), so the question is no longer "do they have to" but "how can those don't fit the unwritten profile feel encouraged and supported to go all in?" It's true that it won't matter a bit who ends up making that beer you drink, but, boy, you will notice a different when THAT MANY MORE passionate and creative brewers begin to share their contributions! :slight_smile:
     
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  16. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Ironic that until large scale commercial brewing almost all beer was brewed by women.They were called brewsters.
     
  17. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    I agree with all that, but I still don't find any reason to flip for joy about a woman brewer JUST because she's a woman. A greater number of hands is a good thing, but I don't care who those hands belong to as long as they do the same things.
     
  18. grapesandgrain

    grapesandgrain Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2015 Australia

    No it doesn't HAVE to exist and I find that trying to force it to exist isn't good. It shouldn't matter whether you're a minority or not, it should be about your skills. Look at it this way if you're going to have heart surgery do you want the best doctor possible or the person who got hired because they were a minority and the hospital wanted to promote diversity. Same with brewing do you really want a female brewer get a special loan instead of the guy who makes better beer. In the end I don't care who makes it just whether it's good or not.
     
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  19. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,640) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    No, not everyone has to be into everything. However, diversity always improves the end product/idea/result/conclusion. Having a variety of people with a variety of perspectives involved in the creative process is priceless. Beer, is both art and science and, in my opinion at least, both art and science are built upon on the creative process. As such, milking everything that is possible from the creative process is optimal (even if it gets messy when doing so). So while I don't advocate forcing people into things they aren't interested in, I do advocate more representation from groups that are largely underrepresented in brewing (women and people of color for examples). Craft beer as a hobby has the demographics of the National Hockey League (maybe not so extreme, ha ha). That's a bummer because hockey has the excuse of the impact of weather and climate on recreational activities. Beer has no such excuse. Beer has been and still is enjoyed the world over, by countless people and in a variety of cultures. There's no reason why the craft community can't reflect that more. So while diversity doesn't HAVE to exist in beer and brewing, I believe we would all benefit if it did.

    I think we could all agree to the inherent meritocracy in your statement. However, and I'm not saying you're doing this, let's be careful no to dichotomize the discussion into "get more women involved vs. I don't care who brews it." We all want good beer, that's a given. But let's not advocate the production of good beer exclusively if it means ignoring some very real barriers to different groups getting involved in the profession/hobby.
     
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  20. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,640) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I would actually prefer a minority candidate to do open heart surgery on me. I know that they've probably had to work harder than most to get to where they are and would feel more confident. Additionally, I would rather a mediocre female brewer get a loan to start a brewery than an exceptional male brewer. Exceptional beer already exists and I have access to tons of it, so getting the guy in the game isn't that important to me. Getting that female brewer in, however, increases overall diversity (which my previous posts in this thread discuss the benefits of) and also further breaks down the "boys club" mentality that can permeate the beer world (which is a barrier to entry of future generations of women).
     
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