Yeast from Crooked Stave's St. Bretta, anyone?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by atomeyes, Nov 30, 2012.

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  1. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    this sad Canadian would love to somehow build a starter from St. Bretta. Really want to try that strain.
    has anyone built a starter from it? better yet, anyone interested in trading for a small starter?
  2. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    See if Chad will send you some.
  3. LeeryLeprechaun

    LeeryLeprechaun Savant (1,094) Jan 30, 2011 Colorado

    I believe that most, if not all, the crooked stave beers are bottled with Champagne yeast. So don't waste your time trying to nab it from the bottle. Contact Chad, he may share or tell you where he gets the yeast from and you could order it direct from the source.
  4. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,456) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon

    He just did an interview on Embrace the Funk and said that St Bretta is 100% house Brett strain - CYM001 - and great for culturing which leads me to believe that the beers are not bottled with Champagne yeast.
  5. LostCook

    LostCook Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2009 California

    St. Bretta is a yet-to-be released beer. It will be a remake of WWB-O. You could try and find a bottle of that which was 100% brett.
  6. LeeryLeprechaun

    LeeryLeprechaun Savant (1,094) Jan 30, 2011 Colorado

    My mistake, I just read the interview and do see that he bottles at least two of the beers with CMY001.

    MMAJYK Initiate (0) Jun 26, 2007 Georgia

    I met Chad at the Music City Brew Off earlier this month and had the pleasure of chatting with him for many hours. He also put together a nice presentation about Brett and about his beers. He shared some of his beer with the group (Surette, Oculus, and Sentenience (sp?)) which was nice. I was really intrigued by Oculus; it was my favorite of the 3. I asked him if I could culture the dregs from that bottle and he said absolutely. He told me it was Bug Farm 4 and a couple sacchro strains. So, I know that one isnt bottle with champagne yeast either. I never heard him mention using champagne yeast to bottle any of his beers, so I'm not so sure that's true.

    My culture of Oculus dregs is in a Belgian Blonde absolutely going off! It took 3 steps to get it to about 600ml.

    Good luck to the OP!
  8. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    thanks, everyone.
    i sent Crooked Stave an email. not sure if Chad will get it.
    already had 1 awesome person on here contact me about a trade, which was supernice.

    MMAJYK Initiate (0) Jun 26, 2007 Georgia

    Every email that goes to "xxxxx@crookedstave" goes to Chad. His direct email is just
  10. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

  11. MMAJYK

    MMAJYK Initiate (0) Jun 26, 2007 Georgia

    If anyone is interested in listening to Chad's presentation from MCBO 2012, it's on youtube now, thanks to Brandon (embrace the funk).

  12. Brandonbrew

    Brandonbrew Initiate (0) Apr 6, 2011 Tennessee

    I've talked to him a number of times and I'm pretty sure that he bottle conditions with CMY001

    also just to make it easier for anyone reading this in the future here is the direct link to that recent interview
  13. Brandonbrew

    Brandonbrew Initiate (0) Apr 6, 2011 Tennessee

    No problem man!
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  14. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    no replies from Crooked Stave, but hopefully my beer trade with one of you dudes will go through.
    this board's amazing at times. (at times).

    by the way, Brandon and ETF is one of my brewing inspirations. dig that he answers my tweets and emails and i love his recipes and posts. thanks again, Brandon!
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  15. ShawDeuce22

    ShawDeuce22 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts

    Be patient, Chad is a ridiculously busy guy and he is spread very thin.

    Also, I heard/read/saw somewhere that most of the Brett strains that he is using he has cultured himself or have been cultured by other brewers. I don't think you will be able to just go to a homebrew shop and pick one of the strains up or order it online. On one interview he mentioned that he is using 4 or 5 in primary and 5 or 6 (these numbers could be off) in secondary and/or barrels. On another interview he mentioned that there was 10 different strains of brett put in one single collaboration beer....yeah, 10!

    ...and that's what makes Chad so unique and the beers he is brewing so damn delicious
  16. ChadCSU

    ChadCSU Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2007 Colorado

    Yep this took some time to get to! I'm working on being spread a little less thin... But then it wouldn't be as fun :slight_smile: St. bretta is just about to be brewed. I got set back a bit and expected to have already released this beer.. but the barrels become the priority. A lot of the WWB series beers had multiple strains of Brettanomyces (some also bacteria, depending if it was in a barrel for even a short time) all of which I cultured during my studies on Brett. I do have 10 strains banked right now but as soon as I get the little micro lab set up here at the CS barrel cellar the sky is the limit. I have at least 20 slurries ranging from Brett wine to Spontaneous Italian beers to culture from.

    St. Bretta however will just use the CMY001 strain for primary and partial bottle conditioning. I may also add a second strain CMY007 for secondary, yes you can use one Brett for primary and another for secondary and get a change in flavor! Either way these will both be in great shape to culture out of the bottle. Brett yeast are very hardy so they culture well out of beer that has been sitting for months even years.

    Atomeyes, I still have your email I will try to get back to you as we'll as see if someone here at the Stave can ship you up a bottle.. Or some yeast slurry off one of our tanks!

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  17. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    thanks for the detailed reply!

    I'm in Belgium this May, but methinks that my next beercation will be to your neck of the woods so i can watch your brewing process. #yeastheaven
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