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You Californians sure like hops

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by leedorham, Jan 23, 2013.

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  1. NWer

    NWer Crusader (713) Mar 10, 2009 Washington
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    The take I got from this thread is that we in the NW are gravitating toward sours, old ales, saisons more than they are in California. Not meant as a pissing contest. Just an observation. Rest of the country can relax. No slight was intended.
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  2. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2011 California
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    Pacific? Pacific, you say? More like Hoptopia, bitches!
  3. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2011 California
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    True. Just too bad we harness their potential better.
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  4. hopsputin

    hopsputin Meyvn (1,098) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey

    It's the weather
  5. phildo7pt9

    phildo7pt9 Initiate (0) May 1, 2011 California

  6. phildo7pt9

    phildo7pt9 Initiate (0) May 1, 2011 California

    I'm drinking Enjoy By right now! Muy Excellente! But Ruination is my go to beer. It's consistently excellent
  7. 395er

    395er Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2011 California

    I really don't care for the DFH IPA's. Too malty and sweet. But that's why everyone has their favorite flavor profile.
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  8. hwy395

    hwy395 Aspirant (238) Jan 20, 2012 California
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    I just recently received 6 Heady from John Kimmich at the Alchemist and 12 Surly Abrasive from Merwin Liquors in MN, 8 Gandhi Bot from my man Bobby in CT and I'm in San Jose, CA..100 miles from RR so I'd have to say the world is getting smaller. beer is good, period..we don't need a rap war here to try and figure out which coast is best.
    Heady, HF, Lawson's...come on can you beat it ? maybe with RR, Alpine, Kern..etc. Why try to beat it, just enjoy it all !
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  9. DrLasers

    DrLasers Initiate (160) Apr 18, 2011 California

    San Diego. Where 7-11's have Stone IPA and Ballast Point in the cooler.
  10. MADhombrewer

    MADhombrewer Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2008 Oregon

    I belong in Portland. My palate belongs in SO Cal.
  11. bassofthec

    bassofthec Initiate (121) Aug 7, 2008 California

    Union Jack, Extra Torpedo, Racer 5. Someone's gotta enjoy these CA brews year round. Might as well be me.
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  12. DrtyBvrJuce

    DrtyBvrJuce Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2013 California

    Both of these beers are 2nd class IPAs. Yuck.
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  13. CelticAleMan

    CelticAleMan Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    We Californians are pretty fond of the family, Cannabaceae. No doubt about that. Not to be apart of any kind of separatist or elitist kind of thinking but I do like the "best coast" references above. I could go with "left coast" as well (being left handed, I believe that left and best are interchangeable, lol).
  14. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    What a strange comparison...

    Those "best of" lists show what beers from the region are most popular overall - not what the people in that region prefer in terms of style. I'm no scientist, but those lists suggest to me that the Pacific region just brews a lot of delicious hoppy beers...

    Am I missing something?
  15. hwy395

    hwy395 Aspirant (238) Jan 20, 2012 California
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    There is no dislike button, so count this as mine
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  16. hwy395

    hwy395 Aspirant (238) Jan 20, 2012 California
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    Wasn't Racer X amazing !?!?
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  17. bassofthec

    bassofthec Initiate (121) Aug 7, 2008 California

    And if we are getting into doubles then Pliny and Double Jack have to be mentioned too. I just wonder if I am missing out on BCBS and KBS living over here. Trading seems like such a pain though...
  18. phildo7pt9

    phildo7pt9 Initiate (0) May 1, 2011 California

    Racer X is pretty awesome
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  19. phildo7pt9

    phildo7pt9 Initiate (0) May 1, 2011 California

    I just got both of those for some easily procurable Pliny the Elder.
  20. draheim

    draheim Poo-Bah (2,408) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I think perhaps some people are still surprised that the Northwest is actually part of the United States.
  21. Derranged

    Derranged Devotee (479) Mar 7, 2010 New York

    I know I'm the minority saying this, but I can't stand when a brewery butchers their beer with excessive hops. Hop flavor is good but some beers are just ridiculous.
  22. Brunite

    Brunite Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2009 Illinois

    And what do find is the best glassware to use when using your IPA this way?:grinning:
  23. leedorham

    leedorham Crusader (701) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Maybe my title was a bit strong. The reason I counted was because I noticed how very different the lists were when separated and I wanted to quantify my hunch. That's all.

    Another thing I noticed was how the prior consolidated list was California dominated. If you look at both you'll notice the Pacific list is much stronger in terms of weighted score. The reason for that could be argued to death I'm sure.

    I honestly think it's all the rain in Seattle driving the NW scores down. Stare at mountain > Rain comes, mountain gone > give beer sub-par review > slit wrists.
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  24. patkorn

    patkorn Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2007 California

    This is like Biggie vs. Tupac!!! Except with a bunch of beer nerds.
  25. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (379) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts


    Not so much Tupac vs. Biggie as Tupac vs. King Buzzo.

    [EDIT: Apologies to patkorn, who ref'd. Tupac and Biggie just above me, dammit.]

    Last time I visited CA (where I'm from and where the rest of my family remains), I couldn't believe how many great IPAs were available in the dinky grocery store near my childhood home. If I hadn't been doing so much driving during that visit I probably would've gone on a delicious bender.
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  26. StubFaceJoe

    StubFaceJoe Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2011 Colorado

    Tupac vs King Buzzo would be quite interesting in a battle of wits.
  27. ChanChan

    ChanChan Devotee (469) Dec 12, 2009 California
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    Wow!! Three breweries from three different states!! I absolutely love Heady Topper but as long as Kern River Keeps brewing Citra I will never need another Heady again!!
  28. mudbug

    mudbug Defender (601) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon

    The thing is that those lists are brand new, by combining the PNW with California A lot of breweries never got the mention, give it a year and see what happens. I'll wager it levels out pretty even.
  29. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,199) Mar 18, 2010 California

  30. leedorham

    leedorham Crusader (701) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Not sure I follow. These ratings aren't new. Are you suggesting people will rate with the beer's overall position on the list in mind?
  31. mudbug

    mudbug Defender (601) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon

    Yep, that is obviously what is going on in other regions. Before the split it was almost impossible for the PNW to make any changes in the regional list. Now it's not, which IMO encourages people to make contributions where before it made no difference.
  32. SaigonDaze

    SaigonDaze Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2012 California

    And Cafe Racer was even better (on draft at Churchill's during SDBW). Lucky to have a chance to have it.
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  33. dirtylou

    dirtylou Poo-Bah (3,336) May 12, 2005 Washington
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    This geography baffles me
  34. Opiate42

    Opiate42 Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2013 Ontario (Canada)

    ROFL I currently view Ithaca as Hoptopia, Flower Power is unreal.

    It's not just our Cali neighbours. Canucks are diggin' the hops too. Tree out of Kelowna has some great hops and quite a few Ontario ones too. Just about any brewery up here worth a look is making IPA's worth a taste.
  35. booyahachieved3

    booyahachieved3 Initiate (112) Sep 5, 2012 Kansas
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    I wish I could agree, but in KS and MO we can't get Oskar Blues from our neighbors, while FL does. Can't some just fall off the truck on the way there?
  36. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Disciple (335) Sep 14, 2011 Missouri

    Yep. One of the few we don't get. Soon enough I am sure. Its two states away and they are expanding.
  37. dianimal

    dianimal Initiate (161) Apr 18, 2012 California

    <--- this Californian sure does!!:slight_smile:
  38. daysinthewake

    daysinthewake Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2010 California

    We also make the #1 rated Czech Pilsner.
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  39. PockyIsDefiant

    PockyIsDefiant Initiate (0) Oct 25, 2007 California

    As much as I love hops...I will gladly take a Consecration over Pliny (younger or elder). Anyday.

    This post also reveals my bias towards my favorite brewery in the U.S.
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  40. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Champion (886) Dec 11, 2006 California

    Except for an ocean :wink:
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