Hop rhizomes

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  1. RumHam

    RumHam Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2013 Virginia

    My LHBS is taking preorders for hop rhizomes, $5 each. Anyone have experience growing these. I'm in northern VA outside DC and I've heard cascade is the most foolproof for this climate. They are offering cascade, centennial, chinook, nugget, n brewer, willamette, fuggles, and mt hood.

    Anyone have experience growing these? What all would I need and what should I know before ordering?
     
  2. clearbrew

    clearbrew Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2009 Louisiana

    I have no experience with this, but from what I've seen and read, nearly everyone that homegrows hops, grows more than one variety (at least the first year). That way they can see what does better in their area. Temperature and climate are not the only factors in hop production. Soil, planting location etc..., can play a big part in the amount of yield.
    If folks in your area say cascade grows the best, then go with some of those, but I would pick one or two other varieties that you like and plant those as well.
    This, of course, all hinges on the amount of available space you have for growing.
     
  3. benidy

    benidy Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Missouri

    Contact your local homebrew club. I'm sure there are brewer/gardener's in the area that can help.

    For what it's worth, I used to live in central Indiana and had great success with Cascade and Chinook. Centennial and Willamette were constantly under attack from a variety of garden pests. After 3 years of struggling with them, I nuked them. I have heard that Nugget is pretty hardy. Nugget and Sunbeam (?) are the most common varietals that you will see at garden centers.
     
  4. benidy

    benidy Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Missouri

    If you can find some one growing hops in the area you might be able to get your rhizomes for free. My chinooks went hogwild. I had to cut them back every year and would have gladly given away cuttings to anyone who asked.
     
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  5. BrockGibson31

    BrockGibson31 Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2013 Indiana

    Im sure i could look this up but ill ask. Here what would be the best way to support the hops should i build a arbor or is there something better
     
  6. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    I'm starting my second year on some rhizomes. First year, they got a good 10 feet tall. I built an A-frame type rig with nylon string for the bines to climb up. Seemed to work pretty well.
     
  7. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    I run strings from our barn roof to the ground. The bines get a good 15 feet high. If you are using open space, a couple of 10-15 foot poles with a wire strung between them is a good platform for your twine. Putting eyelets on top of the poles and tying off at the bottom so you can lower the wire for harvest is very handy.
     
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  8. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    Cascade seems to do great everywhere. I've grown it here in VT, as well as UT and CO and have seen other peoples' plants just about everywhere. Centennial also does well here. My attempt at Mt. Hood curled up and died before the end of May.
     
  9. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    This year will be my first time planting rhizomes. After some research I'm going with the "teepee" method. Basically you get a 12-15 foot pole/tree/straight object and put it into the ground, probably with some cement mix to make it sturdy/solid. You tie/attach some strong wire or yarn to the top of the pole and take the yarn to the ground and stake it into the ground say 7-10 feet away from the base of the pole. You do that 3 times in different directions so it is like a teepee shape. Plant 3 rhizomes which are the same variety at the base of each string and train the bines up the yarn as they grow.

    This will be my first time so ill see how it goes. I may attach some to our barn also as skivtjerry mentioned above, but I'm fortunate enough to have enough room for as many teepee setups as I can do so ill probably mainly do that.

    I see an increase in weed wacking in my future.
     
  10. Sixam2

    Sixam2 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 Washington

    How was your first year production ? I am going to map out about a 20' X 20' area in my garden for hops.. Probably 3 different varieties.. Do you get just 1 harvest ? Just like brockgibson31 I could look it up online but I like this forum much better.. Thanks
     
  11. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Not a single cone last year :slight_smile: That's OK, wasn't expecting much. From everything I hear, first year you're lucky to have a handful, if that. Second year is when to expect more production, third is when they really take off.
     
  12. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I hear if you get the crowns instead of rhizome they will actually produce in the first year. Crowns are a 1 year old plant and are available on eBay thru Great Lakes hops. I can't personally attest to this but a friend of mine who has a few different hop crops says crowns are the way to go if you want hops in the first year.
     
  13. Sixam2

    Sixam2 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 Washington

    Thank you ... I also found that northwest hops.com can sell me crowns..
    I want hops year 1 !!
     
  14. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Ill have to look up that site. Yea if first year hops is possible.... Why not??
     
  15. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    If rhizomes do not grow, you just saved yourself some money (crowns probably won't either). Usually people buy 2 and plant on the same hill. Key is getting them into the ground asap and soaking in a little Xplant solution overnight. I have had cones on first year bines, but not a lot. Where I live Chinook, Nugget, and Cascade seem to do the best (the other 8 varieties have survived, but not necessarily thrived.
     
  16. BrockGibson31

    BrockGibson31 Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2013 Indiana

    Thanks for the advice on supporting. While were on topic would it be best to start the first year in some kind of isolated box or pot?
     
  17. benidy

    benidy Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Missouri

    Put them babies in the ground! You want to let them build up as much root in the 1st year as possible.
     
  18. hopdog09

    hopdog09 Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2012 Michigan

    I've been growing for about 20 years now...my set up is this..first a section of culvert (24" diameter min.) cut about 12-18 inches and placed on its end in the ground with about 2-3 inches above ground. This prevents traveling of the roots once the yard is established. Next, get a couple of chain link fence stringers (top rail) that have the post/socket feature..they usually come in 10ft lenths...cut the socket end of one about 24" long..this is your main post it gets set in the ground..socket end up..the other pole slips inside that one..the top of the remaining pole you can put a eyelet..s-hook or whatever to attach the string or ss cable (which is what I used) and then anchor those to the ground, flaring out from the main pole close to the hop mound..plants grow up the cable then when it comes time to harvest you simply pull the top pole out of the socket and lay it accross a couple of saw horses..harvest and reset the pole..doing this I can usually get two or more "harvests" as usually you have some hops that are "done" and others still getting ready, and you don't have to get up on a ladder or cut them down..I live in Michigan and chinook are by far my best producers..but I only have three varieties, MT. Hood, Sterling and Chinook...I'm thinking of ditching the MT. Hood..not doing well and as someone said ...bugs seem to like 'em
     
  19. jncastillo87

    jncastillo87 Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2013 Texas

    I just ordered some cascade , centennial and willamette rhizomes .. Going to try this texas climate out and see what I can get to grow. Hopefully it all works out.
     
  20. Sixam2

    Sixam2 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 Washington

    Let me know how you set it up.. I'm thinking about getting some starters or crowns so I can harvest something this fall..
    You'll need lots of water.. TX can get hot.. Lol
    In case you weren't aware
     
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