Annoyed with "Freshness" How Fresh is Fresh?

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by StevenSpringer, Mar 6, 2013.

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  1. StevenSpringer

    StevenSpringer Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2011 California

    So I am getting annoyed with some people on the trade circuit. I have Pliny and its usually about 2-3 weeks old by the time it gets up to me in Chico, CA. However I had some trades stop because this wasn't fresh enough. Are you serious? How fresh is "fresh?" 2-3 weeks old isn't fresh? C'mon now.
     
  2. ShemRahBoo

    ShemRahBoo Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 New Jersey

    This certainly is not fresh enough message me for my address and I know a guy who can dispose of them for you.
    Joke aside I try to purchase all IPAs under a month and when theres nothing new out I go between my staples purchasing whatever is the freshest.
     
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  3. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Wow...that's pretty insane. 2-3 weeks for me is pretty GD fresh. There's literally Deviant Dales IPA sitting on the shelf down the street from me that's from 11-7-12. Now that is a freshness issue, especially with an IPA. Up to a month old is basically super fresh in my mind. 2 months old is drinkable, and I'll still buy it if it's something I like, but will sometimes look around for fresher bottles of something else. 3 months and over (and I'm strictly talking hoppy beers here) is where I get pretty reluctant to even buy said hoppy beer.

    Shit, I'll trade for some 3 week old PtE! Any east coast brews you're itching to try?
     
  4. BostonHops

    BostonHops Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    it does seem to be getting to a point where, unless you're snagging it directly from the bottling line, an IPA will be considered by beer geeks to be past its prime. :rolling_eyes:

    2-3 weeks is plenty fresh.
     
  5. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Sounds like you need better trading partners. I could probably find 1,000 people on this site who would love a chance for some PtE. I think the problem is that in some places you can get it a few days after it was bottled. When I was in San Francisco, I'd find them on the shelves sometimes with a date stamp no more than 3 days previous. It was routinely like that.
     
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  6. StevenSpringer

    StevenSpringer Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2011 California

    I would love to get some Hill Farmstead stuff, you got access?
     
  7. No1Smitty

    No1Smitty Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2011 California

    I think it's fresh enough! Makes me feel good though when I am getting with 1-2 days on them though. :wink:
     
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  8. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Nah, unfortunately not, I'm from the Philly area...haven't even had any HF brews myself yet! I'm planning on taking a trip to VT to get a couple cases of Heady and some HF stuff, but that isn't happening until the summer.
     
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  9. StevenSpringer

    StevenSpringer Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2011 California

    Totally, when I was at the brewery in January I picked up a case of PtE and Blind Pig, It was bottled a week before. I heard RR is really limiting their distribution because 50% of the sales are now coming directly from the brewpub, and they have no plans to expand as we all know. So even 3 hours away in Chico, I can only get PtE, we don't get anything else up here anymore.
     
  10. highdesertdrinker

    highdesertdrinker Pooh-Bah (2,706) Nov 5, 2012 Arizona
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    The Sucks bottled on 1-2 is still drinking really good; I have been back to buy it three times and don't notice any discernible drop off. Hopslam was different and lost quite a bit of pop after 5-6 weeks so I really think its beer specific.
     
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  11. digita7693

    digita7693 Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2010 Germany

    love Block 15's recent joke about this, at least imo; their recent bottling of Sticky Hands DIPA, which is amazing, has a best before date of "yesterday". :slight_smile:
    Love it and love their beers!
     
  12. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Really? That's goofy.

    But back to trading partners; now you know who not to trade stuff to when you get other tasty gems in the future, which you most certainly will.
     
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  13. chanokokoro

    chanokokoro Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2012 Illinois

    This. I would be willing to bet a very large majority of those complaining about the "freshness" of a 2-3 week old PtE wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a blind taste test between a bottle with a week or less and a bottle with 2-3 weeks on it.

    EDIT: And even if they did it once, if they repeated 3-5 times they wouldn't be able to do it with consistency.
     
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  14. StevenSpringer

    StevenSpringer Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2011 California

    Exactly! Its a total novelty. "Oh I got fresh pliny" N00b.
     
  15. Auror

    Auror Pooh-Bah (1,641) Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts
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    In defense of traders worried about freshness: If an ipa is 3 weeks old when you begin discussing a trade, it might take a day or two to finalize, the trader might be busy for a few days and can't ship right away, maybe then it sits in the shipping warehouse over the weekend, by the time it leaves the shipping facility a week has gone by. If you're shipping PtE to the East Coast, it could take over a week to get to some remote parts. Suddenly the beer is a week past a month old by the time you even get your hands on it. If you were planning to share it with friends, that might take some more time until your tasting group meets or you have off time. The beer is probably still delicious, but I've tasted many IPAs that were not the same within 6 weeks.

    In the end, if there is a choice, why settle for 3 weeks to start if you can find someone with 1 week old?
     
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  16. Tballz420

    Tballz420 Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2003 Minnesota

    I do have a problem with people who trade beers that are a year old, a year and a half old, etc.

    Even if they are big beers, and are susceptible to aging, if you're trading something that old, I need to be told up front.

    As for trading month old IPAs, anyone who has a problem with that needs to reexamine their lives
     
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  17. TheSixthRing

    TheSixthRing Grand Pooh-Bah (3,269) Sep 24, 2008 California
    Pooh-Bah

    No offense, but lol
     
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  18. Tballz420

    Tballz420 Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2003 Minnesota

    Dude?
     
  19. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    I purchased a six pack of Maximus at bevmo with a 0013 code on it expecting it be bottled on the first month of this year. I opened it and took it a drink... definitely bottled on the first month of LAST year.

    now that is a freshness issue. 13 month old IPA.
     
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  20. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    Also cannot seem to find a bottle of fresh MONGO IPA anywhere. they are all from April or May of 2012.
     
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