Lost Abbey's Current Approach to Bottle Carbonation Quality Control

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by GhettoFabulous, Mar 12, 2013.

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  1. Sebowski

    Sebowski Zealot (613) Jan 11, 2010 California

    How does factoring in that Hunaphu is a crappy beer factor in?
     
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  2. abecall98

    abecall98 Savant (1,234) Aug 11, 2007 California
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    You should ask a seasoned trading veteran about that.
     
  3. rgco

    rgco Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2012 California

    Lost Abbey should have a carbonation notification system similar to what the Vatican uses when announcing a new Pope? Lots of black smoke.
     
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  4. FunkyMacGroovin

    FunkyMacGroovin Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 California

    While we're on the subject, has anyone opened a bottle of this year's Red Poppy yet?
     
  5. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Need to tick Pope beer...
     
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  6. CoolEthan

    CoolEthan Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 California

    Popped a flat bottle of Judgement Day this weekend.
     
  7. thedirtyname

    thedirtyname Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2012 California


    Not sure if it was an older bottle or this years, the date was smudged too badly to read, but sadly I have. Worst $16 I've spent on beer. Seemed like the carbonation was off and had a weird funk to it, like sour but not in a good way.
     
  8. MikeTen

    MikeTen Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 California

    Love the name. "Empty seed." Good way to tell us they're firing blanks!!! Lol!!! :slight_smile:
     
  9. JasonFromLA

    JasonFromLA Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 California

    I opened two so far - one was perfectly fine and the other was flat. The flat beer was still good, but after having the beer as it should be every time, the flat version was extremely disappointing.
     
  10. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    Mine was really tasty but I only got it because I split it with a buddy, otherwise not worth the price.
     
  11. GhettoFabulous

    GhettoFabulous Initiate (0) May 29, 2010 California

    So, basically, Lost Abbey is using their fancy carb QC system to determine whether their beers are properly carbed. When they're flat, I guess it's high fives all around, ship 'em on out boys!

    The way that say, the Bruery handles QC issues is so vastly superior (if the beer is not proper hold it back til it is or don't release it at all if it comes down to it) that it makes LA seem like a bunch of charlatans.

    I wonder how people who are well off (or cavalier enough, depending on your view) to buy an entire case of sede vacante will feel should they learn that they dropped $420 on flat beer. Maybe they can carb test the beer an hour before they go onsale and release grey smoke if it's flat, black smoke if its carbed. Not that the color matters - a pope is elected and the bottles are sold either way!
     
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  12. FunkyMacGroovin

    FunkyMacGroovin Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 California

    Yeah, I won't be buying any. I only ask so I can answer the inevitable questions I'll get from people who haven't yet given up on buying LA bottles.
     
  13. JohnGalt1

    JohnGalt1 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,880) Aug 10, 2005 Idaho
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    Also ISO fwiw.
     
  14. SHODriver

    SHODriver Pooh-Bah (2,415) Aug 13, 2010 North Carolina
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    they didn't think to check the gravity before they bottled? If you put it in the barrels at one gravity reading and it comes out lower than anticipated then you'd think they'd be able to figure out that their ABVs were getting raised a little.

    proper QC and repeatability are the hallmarks of a successful commercial brewery. LA does alright and they have name recognition but they've been plagued by issues.
     
  15. Xul

    Xul Pooh-Bah (2,139) May 18, 2008 California
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    They're likely picking up the extra alcohol from leftover/absorbed spirits in the barrel, not continued fermentation, in which case a check of the specific gravity won't tell the whole story.
     
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  16. SHODriver

    SHODriver Pooh-Bah (2,415) Aug 13, 2010 North Carolina
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    ethanol has a different molecular weight than water and sugar molecules so a change in gravity from prior to the barrel to shortly before bottling outside of what was expected would point to hinky things going on with the beer. And depending on when undesired bacteria gets into the beer that would also cause a difference in gravity...

    Aside from that with a simple fractional distillation setup I could tell you the approximate ABV of a beer based upon the known boiling temperature of ethanol. It's seriously basic college level chemistry.
     
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