Renaissance or rebellion? The new wave of German brewing

Just making it will make you suspect.

 

Of course not, going against the grain is not exactly a German strength.

 

No. At least 50 % of the German population older that 16 (= legal drinking age around here) either don't drink at all or drink wine.

Hell no. Most can hardly afford the beer prices we have now.

No. Not beyond what we already have anyways. That's partly brainwashing and partly the fact that even our cheapest, most horrible crap is still lightyears ahead of much other stuff out there.

No. And those who tried were quickly swallowed by In-Bev or some other conglomerate with a big wallet.

No. Even Germans are capable to learn from history. Eventually.

 

A single bottle of Plank, Goss or any small brewery around here goes for .65 EUR to .75 EUR depending on which store you go to with a per Liter price smaller than that if you go for a 20 bottle (= 10 Liters) crate. Your margins would be fairly small and in no way make that bank happy that just handed you a 15 Million EUR credit to get your idea started. Or rather, since German banks usually can calculate fairly well, your idea would be dead the moment you'd start approaching investors unless someone needs a large scale tax writeoff very quickly.

I think the only halfway realistic (but highly illegal) way to get this set up would be to approach the Mafia or possibly the Hell's Angels and offer them to use your "business" to white wash their drug money. Good luck with that

 

One night or 15 Maß, whatever takes longer

 

That would require a brain washing on a scale that would make Adolf ****** pale in horror...

 

Why do you assume I'm offended ? I thought I've made it abundantly clear that my opposition to Fernsehbier is almost exclusivly based on ideological reasons and has very little to do with the actual quality of the product

 

Since this is supposed to happen in Germany I think the slogan you are looking for would be something along the lines of "Ach scheiß d'rauf, gib mir Flüßigbrot!"

 

This would be impossible because it's not legal to call a beer Kölsch if it's brewed outside of Köln.
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As long as it takes, Jack. As long as it takes.

 

This is utterly and completely false. Why do you spout such nonesense?

Since most beers are considered relatively the same on taste, the only decision point becomes price. That's due to the blandness of most Fernsehbiere. The Germany economy is quite healthy, thank you. People can afford vacations, new cars, and it's not an economic wasteland Stahlsturm wants you think it is. Yes, there are people on Hartz IV, or public welfare, but maybe that's all they got in Regensburg? Doubt it. People simply haven't known any other way. Beer is cheap; it's like bread: a mainstay of life, ubiquitous and it's always been cheap. That doesn't mean a different business concept can't succeed. There are beers sold online for higher price points and, yes, they're selling. Are the masses buying it? No. But it's the same in the USA; craft beer is a niché product aimed at connoisseurs of a products - in this case, beer. Will it sell massively? Doubt it also. Is there a demand? Possibly, but like in the USA, the craft beer folks had to educate the consumer. Innovative beers will sell here, too. Germany isn't some magic beer Fantasyland which lives on nostalgia alone. There will always be the oldtime regulars: Pils, Helles, Bocks, etc., but believe me, once people taste something innovative, they'll want it more and will be willing to pay extra for it. This will require marketing highlighting the unique points of this product and some education. These people may not all sit in the tiny city of Regensburg, but they're out there.

 

Now, this is Beer Fantasyland. In Germany, we have, what... 20 days of warm, sunny weather? Only half of those are in summer, too. Your vision sounds wonderful but more like Disneyland. On those few nice warm, sunny summer days, the Biergarten are packed full, crowded, and noisy, not always the relaxing image you paint. But if you're willing to put with that, great.
Is this normal, every day life? No, it's Fantasia Land (a German version of Disneyland, minus Disney) and maybe a German does it 2, 3 times a year... what do I do on the rest of the 354 days?

(side point... I may have become too German... arguing negativity here! Actually, my mother is from Germany and my father's family immigrated from Germany 100 years ago, so that side can come out.)

 

I had already made that crack about Munich beer in the other thread, I didn't want to push my luck.

 

OK, bad news for you Boddhitree. I just went to bahn.de and looked it up...Frankfurt Hbf to Bamberg Hbf is just over 2 hours with one change in Würzburg. My train is 3.5 hours with two changes and I've done it three or four times! Two-ish hours is definitely day-trippable. Selecting a random Saturday in April shows less than €50 round trip. Go in the AM with some friends and come back in the PM. Do it on a sunny day. Find a biergarten somewhere (Mahr's is less touristy) and then report back.

One of my fondest German memories is going to the Cafe by the Bamberger Dom and sitting under the chestnut trees with a Schlenkerla Märzen looking out at St. Micheal's one hill over and down at the town below. It's an awesome thing to do. And I imagine the Spezial Keller on a nice day would be even better.

 

http://www.xn--waldstbla-v9a.de/

 

Y'all are too much. Bamberg: been there, done it, drank the beer. It's silly I gotta go there to get a beer that's so nearby. They need to sell the stuff here in a Getränkemarkt near me. Or I have to order online. Over 100€ for a bottle/glass of beer is too much, for that's how much it'll cost with train fare.