Beer festivals; am I getting old?

These should be set up in a new type of porter potty style stalls. Just so we don't have to wait in line with morons that need these.

 

Yeah man, it is true. That's like the first day of law school torts and criminal law stuff there.

Pretty famous case about the battery where a dude snatches a plate from a black guy bc he's being a racist dick. So famous I can't remember the name of it. Often a favorite scenario on bar exam crossover questions, because it involves torts, civil procedure, criminal law and every State bar's favorite form of activism, "social justice".

 

I kinda agree with you. There are many more people out to 'get drunk' and can get annoying. But I also feel that it's up to the individual to become annoyed. I ignore the loud-mouths, frat boy, "OMGs" co-eds, and the glass spillers. I had a "dude" knock my glass onto the floor, so I took his and said thanks...got me some Sexual Chocolate.

I go the fests for myself (and usually by myself...so the groping thing would cause some problems) and pay no attention to most others.

At GABF, the members session is the one to hit. Or volunteer, although I think the volunteer lists are full right now. But still, GABF Week is high point

 

I'm with you. I noticed it most recently on the Craft Beer Express in Philly (essentially a bus tour that takes you to 12 different bars). While my friends and I went on it to check out bars in areas of the city I dont normally go to and not have to worry about driving, it seemed most everyone else was using it for cheap transport around the city to get wasted. It was quite an awful experience. I still enjoy some beer fests, though I try to be one of the first there, sample everything I want, and get out before the college kids show up to ruin it.

 

ok. i'm not buying it.

 

It sounds like the GABF simply needs to install a room full of cots and couches so that all you old guys can get your midday naps in.

 

knocking a glass of darkness out of my paws would be considered offensive contact in my book...

 

First of all, I have no idea, what, if any, statute you are quoting, but whatever, let's just operate under the common law.

Second, you fail to incorporate an analysis of self defense, which in general, requires only a belief (not proving it in fact) by a preponderance of the evidence, that the person is/has suffered some harm. A battery, especially if it involves dickish behavior and deadly weapons (broken glass) generally will provide a "reasonable" belief that such force (one immediate punch) can be used in a a valid self defense claim.
Ultimate point: YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVE BATTERY FOR A VALID SELF DEFENSE AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE so I don't know why you even went there.

Talking about spilled drinks justifying violence is a strawman argument in the context of a battery discussion re: slapping drinks out of people's hands. Self defense isn't violence anyways.

 

Excessively jovial behavior is one thing; inappropriate behavior is another. If you see someone groping women or vomiting on the floor or throwing strangers cups on the ground, you should say something.
Anyway, the most inappropriate thing I've experienced at a festival is encountering vomit on the floor or having a strange woman run her hand through my hair and giggle. Otherwise, the crowds are relatively docile and respectful, and the people interested in beer FAR outnumber the people there to get drunk. Maybe you've just had bad experiences?

 

hmm...this law stuff is way too complicated. i give up

 

There are far more people out there who drink just to get drunk than there are who look at getting drunk just as a bonus.

I'll admit, while I truly appreciate a good beer, I do love getting drunk, and value it as much as I value taste. At least at this point in my life. I've only been a beer-geek for a couple of years now. I've been getting drunk for like 17 years. Hard to shake the habit. I believe that you can get hammered and still enjoy what you're drinking. I don't think everyone would agree, but it works for me.

However, getting drunk doesn't mean you have to be an obnoxious asshole. Some people just act that way when they're drunk. Others, like myself, can control their behavior much better.

 

You must be a lot of fun at parties.

 

You take the good with the bad.
a) that dick beerandraiderfan always has to be right
b) he brings good beer and chicks usually

So it evens out

 

Hahahaha how can I possibly argue with that?

 

I much prefer small, local beer tastings, beer dinners, or small classes like the beer/cheese pairing class I went to recently. They're much more relaxed, conversational, chill. The huge beer events just become a blur...too many people, too much money, not enough time, bad food, too much hype/stress around getting in line to get something that's only tapped at a special time... Sometimes I go to them because it's a "night out" and I can maybe try new stuff, but I always end up a bit annoyed in the end.

 

funny, i thought the expression " dirty old man " existed for a reason.

 

Yes, let's raise the price to $500 per ticket! And make people spit their tastings out instead of swallowing, with anyone who actually consumes the alcohol being kicked out! And limit everyone to only trying 10 1oz samples of beer! There will be no fun or shenanigans at my beer fests!

Really people, getting upset because of drunk people at a beer festival is like getting upset because there are fat people at a Golden Corral. Anywhere that has booze is going to have drunk people, and if you can't handle that, then stay inside to talk about how awful society is and reminisce about how amazing things used to be. I've only been to 7 or 8 festivals, but they've all been pretty calm with no extremely obnoxious drunk people ruining it. If prices were raised much higher or samples extremely limited, I'd stop going. Not because I want to get hammered, but because ~$40 is already close to the limit of what I'd be willing to pay for a fest, and often some of my favorite beers at a fest are the ones that I probably would not have chosen if I had a limited number of tickets.

Moral of the story is, if the occasional drunk person offends you, don't go out into a public setting where there's alcohol. The fact that there are tons of drunk people at most sporting events and concerts that usually charge charge $5+ for PBR or Bud Light shows that people are willing to pay large amounts of money for the opportunity to be drunk in public.