FFF printing names on tickets

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by NikkoE82, Mar 25, 2013.

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  1. jpsy422

    jpsy422 Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2009 Illinois

    What's the chance of FFF "security" taking a ticket with a different name on it, checking your ID to make sure you're 21 and just letting you in because they're FFF and they want your money?
     
  2. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    But they already have your money!
     
  3. Mjmoser

    Mjmoser Initiate (0) May 6, 2012 Illinois

    But they will inevitably be getting MORE of your money. I think someone figured the average was somewhere around $200 spent....
     
  4. nickMB

    nickMB Savant (1,130) Nov 17, 2009 Illinois
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    another f*ckin FFF thread - stop the..........


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  5. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 California

    The tickets went on sale like 45 days from the event. It's not like you purchase them way in advance. If you can't make it, that's 100% on you. I wish concert tickets were non-transferable as well. Ever bought Loge or Lawn seats to a concert and no one even wanted to buy them from you at face value or less? The fact the event is popular should have zero meaning on whether you deserve compensation for missing out. In fact, I would argue that by buying tickets when you weren't 100% (barring injury/family emergencies - which in this case re-selling should be the last thing on your mind) certain you could attend is ass hole in itself and should be subject to ridiule. You single handedly screwed willing attendents out of their chance.

    Like everything in Murica, the good people pay price for all the leaches and parasites who ruin everthing for everyone.
     
  6. NikkoE82

    NikkoE82 Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2012 Indiana

    That completely depends on the nature of the injury or emergency. Besides, after an emergency event, often times people are in need of money, so selling something of value may very well be on a persons mind at a time like that. I'm not saying it's FFF's, or anyone's, responsibility to make sure everyone's possessions have liquidity, I'm just saying this method isn't problem free. Its problems are relatively minor, to be sure, but let's be honest here about it and not pretend like this is the perfect solution.
     
  7. Cenosillicaphobe

    Cenosillicaphobe Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2011 Maine

    It is the perfect solution though.
     
  8. mdomask

    mdomask Initiate (0) May 27, 2012 Illinois

    No solution is perfect. It's all a matter of compromises.
     
  9. WolfKeeper

    WolfKeeper Initiate (0) Jun 17, 2007 Illinois

    It's the best solution of what is available, IMO. And if you have to worry about liquidating $30 tickets if an emergency comes up, maybe you should be passing on DLD altogether.
     
  10. JohnfromPurdue

    JohnfromPurdue Zealot (572) Apr 27, 2009 Indiana
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    This was definitely a step in the right direction. I would like to see more done though. I was all for non-transferable tickets and thought that it would make tickets a lot easier to get. That didn't happen. Sure scalping is duchey but if they're just doing this to eliminate scalping, who cares? The end goal should be to get tickets into the hands of as many people that truly want to be there. The only way to do that is to make it easier for those people to get tickets. From the looks of it, that wasn't the case with the online sales. I would propose to get rid of the guest ticket altogether and maybe even doing only IP ticket sales with all the tickets being sold at one time. I know FFF has already said they want to give out-of-staters the opportunity to buy tickets also, but I think popularity has made online ticket sales too painful for everyone. Plus, it would be a great pre-DLD party. FFF think of all the money you could make having a ticket sale event for DLD. Minds would be blown and bank accounts would be destroyed by having 2 DLD parties in one month. Of course, the pre-DLD party would get too popular so they'd have to sell tickets to that, but then those would be too hard to get so they'd have to do a pre-pre-DLD. So yes, all IP tickets is the way to go.
     
  11. mdomask

    mdomask Initiate (0) May 27, 2012 Illinois

    **Insert can't tell if trolling image here**
     
  12. JohnfromPurdue

    JohnfromPurdue Zealot (572) Apr 27, 2009 Indiana
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    That is the lure of JohnfromPurdue.:sunglasses:
     
  13. NikkoE82

    NikkoE82 Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2012 Indiana

    I was arguing that OneBeertoRTA is wrong to say people shouldn't be worrying about money in the event of an emergency. I agree the value of the ticket is insignificant. My original point was just that if there's an emergency, you AND your guest are screwed. Not necessarily out of money, but also out of being able to let someone else go in your place or trading with someone who can go. Again, I think what FFF is doing is the best solution anyone can think of at the moment, but people were talking like there aren't any problems with it and that's not true.
     
  14. yepbye2

    yepbye2 Crusader (423) Feb 23, 2011 Illinois
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    A refund option would be nice if someone just can't make it. I know of many people who would love to buy those refunded tickets.
     
  15. Gritch

    Gritch Initiate (0) Dec 26, 2010 Indiana

    Seems to me that is exactly the case. Most of the people that wanted the tickets got them. Some that wanted tickets did not get them. Supply and Demand. It is as simple as that.
     
  16. mdomask

    mdomask Initiate (0) May 27, 2012 Illinois

    Problems with refunds:
    1. Logistical headache. It takes effort and costs money to refund ticket purchases.
    2. Voiding the tickets. I know tickets from Ticket Master/Live Nation have a bar code on them to track valid vs. invalid tickets, but I don't recall anyone at DLD scanning our tickets before entry, which is necessary to ensure someone doesn't buy, refund, then use them anyhow.
    3. Squatters. No refunds helps avoid the people from just buying a ticket in case they want to show up.
    4. Consistency. One sale time/no refunds means you don't have to keep checking back for new openings. All sales announced publicly at specific times. No "oops, you just missed two tickets!" BS.
     
  17. JohnfromPurdue

    JohnfromPurdue Zealot (572) Apr 27, 2009 Indiana
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    Supply and demand has no bearing on this conversation. Yes, we are all aware that the supply doesn't equal the demand, but that's not the point. There are still people trading/selling their guest tickets. We are always prone to overbuying when we realize we can flip it to our advantage if need be. The only way they would truely be able to ensure that none of these shenanigans (Que Super Troopers) were going on is to limit it to one ticket per person non-transferable.
     
  18. Gritch

    Gritch Initiate (0) Dec 26, 2010 Indiana

    Supply and demand does have bearing on this conversation. If people were not trading/buying the guest tickets that are being traded/sold then you might have a point. But they are, and you don't. People would still get shut out of tickets even if they did only allow one per person. Then what do you propose to please those people?

    There is nothing that Three Floyds could do to please some of you people. They could pay you to take their bottles of Dark Lord, and you guys would still come up with something to bitch about.
     
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  19. Anonymous1

    Anonymous1 Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2012 Illinois

    It would have been nice to be able to purchase IP tickets for another person since any asshole on the internet with a credit card could purchase tickets for literally anyone the weekend before. I like the "name on ticket" but I think you should have been able to put down any name including your own on your purchased ticket.

    Also I'm not sure why the IP sale wouldn't let you grab a second ticket for a guest.
     
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  20. JohnfromPurdue

    JohnfromPurdue Zealot (572) Apr 27, 2009 Indiana
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    According to supply and demand FFF never needed to make ticket sales better because they've sold out every year. The point of them changing things had to do with ticket accessibility. They want their true fans to be able to go to DLD without having to go through the secondary market. Yes, people would still get shut out at 1/person but at least that is an honest take on S&D. The point is not to please everyone, it is to please the most amount of people and that can only be done now through 1/person non-transferable ticket sales.

    By the way, I'm not bitching about anything. I already stated that this is a good step for them. I even stated that I thought the way they handled it would have taken care of the situation. All I did was state what I think would make it even better, using hindsight. It is called constructive criticism, something that seems to have gone the way of the dodo, along with interpreting it. I didn't even try to get DLD tickets because I've got prior engagements that day.
     
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