Victory is resurrecting a near extinct beer....

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  1. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    http://downingtowndish.com/snips/20...o-bring-near-extinct-beer-style-back-to-life/

    Might have to try one myself tonight.

    Inspired by a ghost sign advertisement in Cleveland, Kennett Ale is a re-creation of the historic beer style originated in the Kennett/Reading region in England, considered to be nearly extinct in the United States. Now, thanks to Market Garden’s brewmaster Andy Tveekrem and Victory’s own Andy Bartles, director of brewery operations, this beer style has been brought back to life.

    The final result is a nineteenth-century-style amber strong ale, brewed using English and German malts and spiced with coriander, grains of paradise, a bit of Piment d’Esplette peppers and brown sugar. Its deep brown color and earthy aroma complement the sweet fruit flavors and slight peppery heat left on the tongue. At 8.6% alcohol by volume, expect medium body and a moderately dry finish.
     
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  2. Thedrizzle

    Thedrizzle Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2012 Florida

    Yum.
     
    #2 Thedrizzle, Apr 2, 2013
  3. joeebbs

    joeebbs Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2009 Pennsylvania

    so...no hops?
     
    #3 joeebbs, Apr 2, 2013
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “How exactly does a beer become extinct?”

    You obviously have never been at a tapping of Pliny the Younger!?!:wink:

    Cheers!
     
    #4 JackHorzempa, Apr 2, 2013
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  5. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Pooh-Bah (2,851) Jun 18, 2012 Missouri
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    Most Witbiers have ruined coriander for me.

    Would still give this a try ... I trust Victory. <3
     
    #5 SerialTicker, Apr 2, 2013
  6. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,275) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    Sounds fantastic. I'm glad to see Victory experimenting more. They should make this part of a series and call it "Bygone Beers".

    Cue the DFH lawsuit.
     
    #6 THANAT0PSIS, Apr 2, 2013
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  7. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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  8. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I too think Victory is headed in the right direction, I think their new facilities will allow them to experiment more.
     
    #8 HokiesandBeer, Apr 2, 2013
  9. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I hate to be the guy who wonders just how close to what our forebears drank this actually is.

    I tried to recreate a Whitbread XXXX Stout when Ron Pattinson posted the recipe. Turns out that the yeast line was actually still true, but that was the only ingredient for which that could be said. The rest of the ingredient list were so different in their modern forms that making the beer would have been fun, but in terms of historical accuracy a bit of a joke. Which isn't to say it couldn't be done, but it would take more than just using a recipe and modern ingredients.

    Are the malts made from heirloom barley and malted with period techniques? Are the hops heirloom? Is the yeast a line kept intact? Or is this just a gimmick? This article doesn't say.

    I know, I know, I am a downer but it gets a bit tiresome **cough cough DFH*** listening to these claims from craft brewers that in the end prey on ignorance of the craft beer drinker the way BMC brewers say things like "Triple Hopped" to prey on the ignorance of the average beer drinker.

    Birra Del Borgo did a beer that was brewed using ancient grain that was brought back to existence from a line 12,000 years old, Enkir, and they never claimed to be recreating ancient recipes. That was legit. Is this?
     
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  10. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania


    All fair questions though I think the difference is that this beer is possibly still being made in the UK. The article says it hasn't been brewed in the US for a century, not that it hasn't been brewed in a century. How accurate will it be to the original? No clue.
     
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  11. BB1313

    BB1313 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,290) Jul 16, 2009 Ohio
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    It's cool to finally see Market Garden Brewery do something interesting.. I'll stop there to check this one out.
    Andy Tveekrem used to brew at DFH before MGB.
     
    #11 BB1313, Apr 3, 2013
  12. VernonKell

    VernonKell Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2012 Michigan

    Check out Pretty Things Beer & Ale Project. They've been doing this kinda thing for awhile and they've recreated some delicious stuff. Especially the East India Porter. http://www.oldbeers.com/
     
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  13. Starkbier

    Starkbier Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2002 Maryland

    Andy brewed at a lot of places, first Great Lakes when they exanded rapidly, then Wild Goose/Blue Ridge/Flying Dog, and then DFH.

    <Andy Bartles

    Thats errata, his real name is Adam Bartles!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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  14. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    Now if they would only take that damn Golden Monkey out of their mix pack they could really make some strides.
     
    #14 SenorHops, Apr 3, 2013
  15. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,275) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    I've never tried it, so I'm not sure how bad it is. I've only had Storm King, Hop Devil, and Prima Pils, all three of which were superb.
     
    #15 THANAT0PSIS, Apr 3, 2013
  16. Starkbier

    Starkbier Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2002 Maryland

    It might surprise you to know how much Golden Monkey is loved by many! (one of the best selling beers made by this brewery).
     
    #16 Starkbier, Apr 3, 2013
  17. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    It sounds interesting enough to give it a try as long as I only have to buy a bottle or two or try in on draught rather than a 4 or 6 pack.
     
    #17 otispdriftwood, Apr 3, 2013
  18. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Sounds more like a regional flavor than an actual style of beer. I cant add cranberries to a beer and call it a massachusetts style ale.
     
    #18 BearsOnAcid, Apr 3, 2013
  19. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Just got back from the brewery....ordered a Kennett Ale....ordered another....and got a growler to go. This is a really tasty beer! Served in an English pint glass it looks like a normal English ale, nice frothy head, good color, and slightly bitter. The coriander gives it a slight wit/hefe taste but it's minimal, more of a compliment than a main flavor, very easy drinking beer at 8.6%, thank god I wasn't driving.

    Oh and also saw one of Victory's RSD's in there at the bar enjoying a beer, must be nice!

    PS Golden Monkey is a great beer.
     
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  20. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Golden Monkey is delicious, my guess is that this guy isn't a heavy belgian drinker. It's not like it's a Cranberry Lambic. IMO if you picked 4 out of the Prima Pil's, Storm King, Golden Monkey, Headwaters, HopDevil you'd have a very solid variety case.
     
    #20 HokiesandBeer, Apr 3, 2013
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