Beer festivals; am I getting old?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by LadyOfMuchBeer, Apr 3, 2012.

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  1. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    If you've been to it 10+ times you might consider that it's a bit petty to complain that the arrival of new people is ruining your fun.

    Because, you know, you've been to it 10+ times already.
     
  2. imbrue001

    imbrue001 Zealot (673) Aug 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I haven't really encountered much douchebaggery at events. But then again, I only go to local ones that are worth the money or are free. My only gripe are the ones that don't use pastic cups and instead opt for the sampler glass with no means of rinsing it only. Seems like they don't care much about you discovering new brews when they do that. It's just hurry up and get smashed so you can buy this overpriced case of beer.
     
  3. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    "but the original statement was actually "people will try and knock your glass from your hand so that the crowd can yell "oohhhhhhh"

    Agreed. Did not read or see that part, so my apologies, and I stand corrected. That would certainly qualify as a "battery." However, I still stand by my original statement that punching someone in the nose in retaliation is really not a good response, no matter how attractive an option that might seem like at the time. Whether justified or not, punching someone at a fest is a good way to get yourself booted and likely hauled down to the hoosegow.
     
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  4. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    This.
     
  5. Crawfordesquire

    Crawfordesquire Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2011 North Carolina

    Just curious if you are an attorney. Thanks.
     
  6. CenCalMario

    CenCalMario Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2009 California

    While beer festivals are becoming a hassle, the smaller brewery only parties, meet the brewer night, Oakquinox, Sour Sunday's, Eclipse release, Beer Republic's ipa vs. sour or Stout day, etc. are becoming much better and more intimate. Take for instance Beachwood's sour week ... while not a festival per se, it is quite an event and spread out over a period of days. I get the same great beer, but in a setting that is more conducive to having a good time... instead of the smash and grab feeling of a shoulder-to-shoulder 3 hour, do or die, beer festival. I've passed on many fests as of late in favor of the smaller intimate events. I like limited ticket sales too, but that is sometimes a misnomer as breweries obviously try to maximize their end and sometimes oversell which leads to a massive clusterF (see The Bruery's 3rd Ann party). Nothing is perfect, but I definitely chose to attend smaller, specialized events, than open chaos festivals.
     
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  7. keithmurray

    keithmurray Pooh-Bah (2,967) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut
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    Hey man, do the chicks you bring to said parties have an ass like the chick in your avatar? If so, I need an invite to your next beer bash ASAP!!!
     
  8. callmemickey

    callmemickey Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2007 Pennsylvania

    We can all skip the theoretical "is me punching someone in the nose self-defense because someone (slapped a drink out of my hand / groped a female companion / etc)" question. The practical effect of punching someone in the nose is that you (a) will likely be arrested, (b) will have to hire a douchey lawyer to help prove that you were justified in doing so, and (3) may get your ass kicked somewhere along the way.
     
  9. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    Same here. Local breweries like Jester King, Independence, Austin Beerworks and Thirsty Planet, among many others, consistently and regularly put on great events, and I'm more than happy to just stick to those. They are also starting to do a lot of special events at local craft bars, so its win win. Festivals are just too much hassle for an old man like me.
     
  10. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Exactly. Hence my earlier posts. I never think it a good idea to recommend this as a solution, even if it's said solely in jest or if someone is convinced it's justified.

    In all honesty, I can't recall ever attending a fest where I saw someone or a group of people slapping a drink out of someone's hand as a joke, unless they knew the person. Even then I think it's a pretty rare occurrence, though I'm willing to be convinced otherwise if someone knows differently. In any event, I like to think I have some control over my surroundings a) because I can pick and choose what events I decide to attend, and so can avoid events where this sort of thing is apt to occur, and b) I don't let myself become so polluted that I won't happen to notice a group of drunk douchebags coming my way that I can't avoid.
     
  11. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Actually and factually speaking, if you go back in the thread and read what is written:

    the scenario I addressed was someone intentionally slapping a glass out of another's hand just to hear "OOOOOHHHH" (specifically at GABF). . . and I compared it to the case of snatching a plate from someone's hands as to why it constituted a battery and then potential self-defense associated w/ the battery.

    You then changed the entire fact pattern (in your words "in no way similiar/relevant") to involve inadvertently spilling a drink, among other things.

    So in summation, the problem with your revisionist history, is that it is:
    a) revisionist
    b) incorrect
     
  12. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    "a) that dick beerandraiderfan always has to be right"
    Res ipsa loquitor my friend, don't you think?
     
  13. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Yeah, I'll bring a vertical for us to pound!
     
  14. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Why would you choose to hire a douchey lawyer unless you, yourself are douchey or attracted to doucheyness?

    I'd simply recommend hiring the best/most qualified for your needs, rather than doucheyest. Same with mechanics, doctors, contractors, BEER etc. . .
     
  15. callmemickey

    callmemickey Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2007 Pennsylvania

    As an attorney, I can confidently look around amongst my peers and recognize that there are a lot of shitty, douchey lawyers out there. While you may "simply recommend hiring the best/most qualified for your needs," not everyone has the luxury of retaining a particularly skilled and polished attorney to represent them--particularly when it comes to attorneys handling charges stemming from punching someone in the nose over beer.
     
  16. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Arrrrgggghhhhh!!!!

    You two are starting to make me crazy.

    @ beerandraiderfan- you completely missed the point (I'm assuming your post isn't tongue in cheek, though it's hard to tell). The point is that having to hire an attorney, douchey or otherwise, is an added expense to punching someone in the nose that I suspect no one wants to have to pay. Maybe it would be worth it to defend your wife or GF's honor, but not over a spilled beer! There's a much easier solution - just don't do it!!!

    @ callmemickey - who cares!?! Good, bad, indifferent, no one wants to have to go to the trouble of having someone come down to the jail to throw/post bail for them; calling around to find a suitable criminal attorney; retaining said attorney; and then appearinig in court during your work day with said attorney (possibly on multiple occasions). I don't care if the attorney you hire is Clarence f*cking Darrow! This is not a good option!!!
     
  17. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Regardless of the situation, I recommend competent professionals/beer to address a relevant situation for a person. What a person does with that recommendation is up to them. What a person has done in their entire lifetime and future to have the ability/desire to proceed from there, is up to them.

    Its not my fault (or anyone else's in general) if someone says they have to buy/have a hoppy lager, I make a recommendation, but can only afford Hurricane Malt Liquor instead of checking out some Humulus Lager. Same thing with professionals.

    There are shitty, douchey (insert any profession) out there.
     
  18. callmemickey

    callmemickey Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2007 Pennsylvania

    No disagreement here. Hell, I made my point earlier and you responded: "exactly." My statement that seems to be driving you crazy was simply filling out the point I originally made in response to beerandraiderfan asking why the lawyer would be douchey.
     
  19. callmemickey

    callmemickey Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Agreed. I was just saying, don't punch someone in the nose... you might end up with shitty, douchey lawyers, judges, juries, police, friends and family judging you, and employers firing you.
     
  20. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Again, man, check out my initial post discussing battery/self defense. After discussing the legalities, I talked reality: I said unless you see your life flashing before your eyes, getting into a bar/beer event fight, even in self-defense isn't a wise course of action. We've never disagreed on that aspect, in fact, I think that's why I previously "liked" your post asserting as much
     
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