Bad Trader: ThirstyHerf

Ghettofabulous- why be such a DouscheCanoe about this? This is, I think the first Bad Trader thread that the accused bad trader has had the balls to post in and own up to not sending their box. Most targets of bad trader threads that do reply are telling the OP that they suck and will never get the box owed.
Ease up man, not the end of the world. At least this guy is owning up and getting it taken care of.

 

Most? Citation needed.

It's way more likely for someone to keep promising to string someone along. ThirstyHerf might be likely to come through, but people apologizing for his months of excuses and attacking GhettoFab are in the wrong. This thread is an unfortunate example of the "blame the victim" mentality that pervades bad trader threads. It's always their fault, whether it's in jumping the gun, waiting too long, or besmirching the reputation of someone beyond reproach. And people wonder why so many bad trader threads are vague or delayed too long.

 

I recently completed my first shipping trade a couple of weeks ago. I also brought home my first daughter from the NICU last month after she arrived 4 months too early.
So, as a new father who pulled off his first trade, perhaps I'm in the unique position to judge ThirstyHerf the harshest.

BUT I DON'T.

In fact, I don't judge him at all. I was fortunate enough to have the time to take care of my trade on lunch breaks at work.
Like others have said, not only did he post in this thread, he's owning up and taking responsibility. Unexpected life events hit us all, and it's best to be understanding and supportive, like cavedave said. That's true beer advocacy, in my opinion.

 

" The bad traders that I have seen reply..." Fixed?

 

No one is condoning what he did. He was late, he was called out on it, and he promises to make good. I am not sticking up for him as I do not personally know him and have never traded with him. Bottom line is that he agreed to something and didn't fulfill his end. The problem I have is the people who have no ties to this, no idea what the problems/situations are, and have no business in this that are attacking him. If you do not want to trade with him after seeing this? Fine. Mark it on your little spreadsheet and move along. It is not necessary to accuse him of using kids/work as excuses when none of you know his situation.

 

This thread is over. Agree or disagree with the resolution if you want, but the issue is resolved.

 

The issue is not resolved until he sends his package...

 

True. But for now its as resolved as its going to get.

 

So the only people who should be involved are OP, ThirstyHef, and people who have traded with ThirstyHef? Then this thread would have more of an apologist bent than it already does. Like it or not, it's in a public forum and others can comment.

But that's word-for-word what he did:

You can say it's justifiable but I don't understand these people who are saying he didn't bring it up as an excuse. It's in his very first post.

 

This idea that he "has balls" for doing what he's *supposed* to do, after stringing someone along for three months and being called out in public, is absurd. You guys want to put him on a pedestal for making good only after being forced to on a public forum and pathetically blaming fatherhood as the reason for screwing over another trader? Have fun! You act like he's some noble gent when in reality he still screwed someone over and came on here to profess that the demands on his time are more important than the demands that others face because he managed to knock his chick up. That shit deserves to be called out and if it makes me a douche in the eyes of you and the other apologists I'll somehow manage to sleep at night. Hopefully I make it onto your do not trade lists so I never have to deal with traders who think its okay to wait three months to ship so long as you're a 'stand-up guy!' with kids.

 

Did you miss his post where he blatantly used his work/kids as excuses? "FWIW, While this trade (which was the last ISO/FT I posted) was started before the birth of my son, I did not realize how little time I would have contribute to trading once he arrived. This trade in particular presented an additional time restraint I did not foresee. As Jed acknowledges, I did attempt to ship prior to his birth and was asked to wait."

Sure, we could move along, but this a public forum where people read things and make comments. Just like you witnessed me not moving along, and instead of moving along, chose to make a comment on what you thought was lame behavior. We obviously have different definitions of what lame behavior is, but I know we'll manage.

 

I'm not saying he didn't use it as an excuse. I said that he shouldn't be called out because you don't deem his excuse viable. You nor I know the situation at hand. I have 13 kids and I find time, so you having a kid is no excuse!
Anyway, I'm done in this thread. We can agree to disagree. Or not, I really don't care.

 

I think you need to go for a walk and get some fresh air or something, there's no place for a comment like this here. You're off-topic, crossing the line and taking this further than it needs to go. The OP posted his notification, the "bad trader" responded, everyone chimed in. I'm pretty sure the OP and ThirstyHerf can take it from here and if this doesn't get taken care of in whatever timeframe is acceptable to the OP, we'll see another thread and he'll be added to the list if necessary.

 

Tell us how you really feel! You need to chill man. The guy came up, was honest and that's it. What more do you want of him? At the end of the day it's just beer. And if you're willing to get this worked up over beer THAT YOU'RE NOT RECEIVING, then you got some issues bro. I'd hate to see what happens if someone does you wrong or is a little slow with the communication. You'd channel your inner FrddyMck and send threatening emails?

 

1-Never said it was acceptable to not ship a box for 3 months.
2-Didn't put him on a pedestal-simply remarked that he is one of few BAs that gets called out in a bad trader thread and actually responds positively.
3-You are living up to your name by using a term like "Knocked Up", that must be how you do it in "daHood"
4-Yeah you don't have to worry about trading with me, I would probably string you along for 3 months then send a box of Elephant shit to you. (http://www.shitsenders.com/)

By the way can I have your address?

 

There is plenty of wrong to go around in this thread.

Some of the comments against ThirstyHerf are going way over the line. Right or wrong, no need for things to get so personal, as he seems well-intentioned.

Some of the support of ThirstyHerf is being too heavily clouded by past experiences. Fact is, we have seen good traders go bad, and we have seen people who say they're going to "make it all right", and they never do. I don't think you even need to be that old of a vet to remember mikesgroove, who was similarly defended by many right up until it became clear that he was never going to make good on what he owed. I'm all for giving vets the benefit of the doubt, but a newer user would have been hung long before now.

I'm willing to bet he makes good on this trade, but he has clearly lied to his partner numerous times about the box "going out tomorrow" instead of just clearly fessing up that he's overloaded with a new kid at the moment. If I were the OP, this is what I'd be most upset about. I've had a couple of trades where I've waited 3+ months for a box, and it was fine, because I knew why and my partner was up front about it.

As always, communication is king in dicey trading situations.

 

When my son was born, I was so sleep-deprived I accidentally boxed him up and sent him to a trading partner instead of the agreed upon CCB Guava Grove x2. What an embarrasing mix-up... and forget about explaining it to my wife

 

I'm curious what you find so offensive and line crossing about the phrase 'managed to knock his chick up', but any explanation would just continue the off-topic bent you 're decrying. I have a feeling your indignation is because I'm referring to his fatherhood, but he's the one who crossed that particular line in making it the central thesis of his mea culpa. You're right, this does appear to be all wrapped up, but you sure are doing your share in bumping the thread up to the top of the forum.

 

Fault/blame, etc. aside, I think the lesson learned for those following this thread and who might be new to trading, BA, etc. is this - just be open and honest in your communications with the counterparty to your trade, and you will likely be met with understanding as to a delay in shipment. I think we have all at the very least shipped out a day or two (or more) later than we would have hoped, and whenever that happens in my case, I always give the counterparty a heads-up, and if the other person is delayed, I appreciate the same consideration.

Certainly sounds like everything should get resolved in this one, and that's great to see. Cheers!

 

I'm not worked up in the slightest. You'll notice the "how dare you!" assertions are coming from the apologist camp. And i dont want anything from him, I'm just calling him on his bullshit (like you think you are calling me on mine. Apparently, this is how discussion forums function sometimes).