Beatification trade value.... seeking some education

Lots of east coast people think you can cross over CA as fast as they can cross over multiple states. They forget that most of their states can fit inside CA a few times over.

 

Seriously. If we could have signatures I think mine would be "California is bigger than you think."

No it wouldn't.

 

Texas says what?

 

Texas isn't on the east coast.

 

Damn it! You're right!

 

Maybe by hovercraft. With traffic up the 5 being what it is, I don't count on getting up to Santa Rosa from LA in less than 8 hours. Not saying it's not possible, but 6 hours is an optimistic minimum.

 

We know Cali is huge....but we also know San Francisco and Oakland is an hour away from RR, and I hear San Fran and Oakland are pretty big cities. To me 1-2 hours away isn't a big deal.

 

Your not bullshit'n, I too am pretty damn fatigued from trading...sent out 8 packages of 30 Beats total...not to mention shipping costs...I'm well over $200 in shipping alone...it would take a substantial trade offer for me to let go of the rest of my Beats...

Cheers!

 

1-2 hours might not seem like a big deal but you also have to factor in gas plus being in the mood to take a drive...then when you get to RR you have to factor in food and a couple drinks. Plus only a 6 bottle allocation per person at $15 dollars a bottle unless you bring mules...Then you have people wanting to trade you for some off the shelf beers and shipping...it really isn't worth it unless you have a substantial trade going or are hooking up your permanent trading partners...So yeah, 1-2 hours is kind of a big deal...

Cheers!

 

You are absolutely right, I was for some reason thinking from my buddy's place in San Jose. Google shows it at 7 hours, but yeah, it definitely depends on traffic.

 

If you want to talk about a place in the middle of nowhere, take a look at where Shorts is on a map. Grand Rapids is the closest city and it takes me 2.5 hours to get there.

 

Man, tough times indeed.

 

So what your saying is that your desirability to try Beatification is "high" but if you had a chance to buy a bottle of it in your magical beer store, you'd pass it up and buy all of the BCS. Then you'd offer a trade of your BCS that you bought at your magical beer store for a bottle of Beatification? Why wouldn't you have just bought the 3 BCS and 1 Beatification if your desirability was so "high"? It would have saved you having to post an ISO and shipping...It would have also saved you from posting this rant and contradicting yourself...

You my friend make no sense...

Cheers!

 

It's not a big deal once or twice (though if I lived 1 hour closer, I'd make the trip a few more times). But even 12 bottles would be quickly eaten up by 4-5 trading partners, assuming I want to keep a couple. And most of us have more trading partners or more pre-requests than that. I had pre-requests for 28 bottles. A friend of mine has a request for 24 bottles from just one person (plus requests from 8 other people; I'd guess 50 bottles total).

Out of curiosity, how many traders do you think live within Santa Rosa proper? 1 hour's drive? 2 hours' drive? And how much would you reasonably expect each person to spend on trading Beatification? The limiting factor is the trading population and their budgets, not the number of bottles.

I'm flabbergasted by how many people seem to expect strangers to drive a few hours and pick up a full allotment for them, so I'd love to understand where you are coming from. I wouldn't ask that of a friend, much less a stranger. Maybe the BA community has become TOO generous, such that people seem to think these over-the-top favors are a matter of course.

 

Blame Straight Talk from Android. It's pretty much the "I now think I can buy the crown jewels because I'm feeling richer" effect, but with beer.

 

Well, if they're feeling that wealthy, I'd happily pick up a full allotment of Beatification for them at cost: bottle price, shipping, gas, toll, and wages for 4 hours of driving at my salary rate.

Sounds like people place a very low value on our time.

 

People tend to place stupidly low values on their time in general. It's why so many people would rather wait in line for 5 hours than pay $10 more for a bottle.

But yeah, those would be some expensive Beats. It would be funny if someone took you up on it, it'd be like a $50 bottle. (Incidentally, this is one of the reasons I think eBay is a terrible value proposition for sellers, they're hardly making anything once you factor in all the indirect costs.)

 

I'm sorry, but who really needs 24 bottles of one beer all for themselves? I'm hoping that person is spreading around the love at least a little bit, cuz that's just ridiculous.

As to your point about people expecting strangers to pick up allotments for them, I don't really get that at all. I was ecstatic when my regular trading partner told me he's be able to pick up a couple bottles for me out of the blue.

I think part of it also is that people think about the lengths they go to for a one-day beer release, but don't consider what the stress/costs would be to do that multiple times in one week. Sure, I drove five hours to the KBS release party and waited in line another seven hours to buy the beer, but I also had planned for it in advance, and got to participate in the overall party/sharing atmosphere of the event. That's very different from driving 2-4 hours round-trip for a glorified beer run. Admittedly, I'll do that every once in a blue moon, but not multiple times a week. And I don't even have a wife and/or kids to worry about.