How price and availability would effect the top 250

I'd never pay $50 for a bottle of beer. And Breakfast stout is delicious.

 

Cheap easy to find beers don't taste good, just look at the top 250. If a spear has not been cast into it it is garbage.

 

Founders Breakfast stout is OK but I wouldn't put it anywhere near the top of a list like that. New Holland Dragons Milk is easily number 1. In addition to the ones you named Heady (which doesn't belong there anyways) Zombie Dust and sadly Black Note would fall.

 

I don't think it would change all that much. I think what you are trying to say is that ratings are inflated due to lack of availability and/or price. If so, I disagree. I think most BA's don't allow these things to go into their opinions.

 

I think it should be considered only rare beers should get points TAKEN OFF if I rated purely on taste all my 4.75s would be 5s but it doesn't matter how good it is if I have no hope of getting enough of it.

 

Rate them the way you want to rate them... The top 250 is merely the opinion of members on this site who give their opinion on certain beers. Don't let it stress you out. lol

 

Look at the "Beers of fame" list. That list pretty much takes rarity out of the picture

 

I think if anything you should just be happy you don't HAVE to drink rare beers, since you seem to have such an issue with them. I've gotten away from caring about them as much myself, but in most cases they ARE better IMO.

New Holland Dragons Milk is a great easy to get BA stout, but I don't think it would hold a candle to KBS and BCBS blind (granted it'd be easy to tell which was which.) That said, I buy it often haha

I think its just a part of most peoples nature to gravitate towards rare/ hard to find things. Myself included.

 

I think you should drink what you want and what you like and stop worrying about whats in the top 250 but thats just me.

 

Are you being serious?

 

Chimay Blue and SN Torpedo would be on the list

 

With KBS and BCBS I disagree with you too much coffee and in the case of BCBS way too much bourbon heat this one has to be aged or I can't drink it. There are a few I might like better or are at least as good as Dragons Milk the ones that I've had are CBS Bramble and Black Note. I love Fort too but its a completely different style of beer so its hard to compare to Dragons Milk. The thing that annoys me the most is New Holland supplies plenty of DM so why can't Founders supply plenty of CBS and if not then at least KBS. GI hasn't released their schedule yet but I'm hoping they do Bramble again. Now that Bud owns them I'm hoping we get something good out of it and they make all the variants released so far every year never got to try vanilla.

 

I have to completely disagree with this. I think many BA's are hypbeasts and the Top 250 shows it. Everyone whether willing to admit it or not has a part of their brain that switches off objectivity when their eyes see a white whale or a brew from certain breweries.

If you took a bottle of Hazelnut Brown from Rogue and put it in a 3 Floyds or Hill Farmstead bottle I guarantee it would rate higher than the Rogue bottled version. Perception of value taints ratings on BA all the time.

 

Unless everyone is blind tasting every beer they review, expectations due to price/availability will influence a rating (though not always in a positive direction). Not much one can do about how the human mind works, though.

I'd love to see a list where price and availabilty were factored in--would be very interesting. I'd have no idea how to do it, but I'm sure a statistician could easily figure out a way. And personally, I think Founder's Breakfast Stout (as well as Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout) would be quite high on the list. There may even be more than a few lagers on it as well.

 

No are you?

 

i agree completely. it is nearly impossible to judge a beer without consciously or even subconsciously factoring in the hype/mystique/rarity. its something people just do. i guarantee if you took bud light and gave it a stupid name, barrel aged it, and only released it once per year it would score at least mid 80s on BA

 

then theres the other extreme where guys hate on beers like 90 minute just because its so popular lol. but at the end of the day who cares how people rate beers. im into this stuff cuz its fun as hell, so i dont get too worked up over it.

 

I would go even further and say that if it was freakin Blue Moon in a popular brewery's bottle (FFF, HF, Russian River, Bells, etc..) that it would probably be rated in the 90's and people would trade for it. People want what they can't get, and buy into what's popular. That's nothing new, but even in the craft beer community (where we're supposed to be able to think for ourselves and form our own opinions) this exists, but oh well lol.