Few questions about this new addiction

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  1. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    So I just ordered a decent brewing kit from Austin Homebrew. I've decided I want to go partial/mini mash to start. My first kit is their budget IPA with falconers flight hops. With that kit I went ahead and got 5 more 1ozs packs of falconers flight that I'm planning on using as well.

    Now my questions: would I benefit from adding another pack late in the boil or should I use all 5 to dry hop? Thinking about 2 in primary and 3 in secondary. Is that to much dry hopping? Should I add more 1ozs packs to the boil and use only 2 or 3 in secondary? I can't leave well enough alone and just keep the kit as is.

    Any help with a schedule would be great!
     
  2. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Do you have a recipe available on that? Hop addition times and yeast will help too. Most of your hops should be late boil or dry hop.
     
  3. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    This would be my advice. I think the first time you brew, following the kit to establish some sort of baseline is useful. It's hard to know what to suggest unless you post the original recipe. Since you are intent on adding more hops, maybe do some extra at flamout and some as dryhop to increase aroma and flavor. I suggest staggering the dry hop additions. My guess is you don't want to add any as extra bittering additions unless you know for a fact that the kit is not bitter enough for you.
     
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  4. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    I don't have the kit in hand yet. So I can't get the recipe. What I'm mainly looking for is the citrus flavors that come from the hops to really shine. That's why I was kinda thinking the dry hop or late boil/ flameout.
     
  5. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Most likely if I'd suggest anything it's going to be aroma hop or dry hop additions. When you get your kit post back with a hop Alpha Acid (AA) and biol times. With kits, they might tell you exactly what's in there, but more often they'll leave you in the dark. It's good to have extra hops. If you don't like the taste, you can dry hop. Don't be afraid to save the extra hops for next batch either.
     
  6. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    The yeast is white labs california ale WLP0001.
    The hops are magnum, cluster, and falconers flight (alpha acid of FF is 10-12%)
    Malts are crystal 40L and crystal 60L

    I will report back when I get the recipe. Thanks for the help!
     
  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Just off the cuff here from what you've posted so far, but I am pretty sure crystal can be steeped and do not need to be mashed as the sugars are already converted. Second, I have brewed a few batches now, and I run into an issue every brew day even though I preplan and research everything in the weeks leading up to brew day. With all of the things that can go wrong, I HIGHLY recommeend that you follow the directions to the tee for your first brew. It makes troubleshooting a bad beer pretty easy. Once you get the process down then start adding to kits or designing your own beers. I also suggest reading www.howtobrew.com and possibly buying/borrowing the actual book.
     
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  8. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    I've been reading howtobrew and watched some videos. I know it's gonna be a trail and error process. I wasn't gonna throw the whole process out of whack. Just wanted to add some extra hops and leave the rest of the kit alone. I'm the idiot who can't leave someone else's recipe alone. It's not in my genes.
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Just FYI... you can't do a mini mash with just those malts. Neither has the enzymes needed to convert starches to sugars. (Those enzymes come from base malts.) But the good news is that crystal malts doen't need to be mashed. Steeping them is fine.
     
  10. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    Sum bitch!!! The kit said mini mash! Oh well. I need to learn a lot and am trying to immerse myself as much as possible in technique and process as possible. I'm addicted to the information already! Thanks everyone. Any information is very much appreciated!
     
  11. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    One thing to think about is when you dry hop and transfer to a secondary you will lose a little bit of beer. Dry hoping twice with two transfers(once to secondary and once to bottling bucket) expect to end up with less bottled beer than you plan on especially since it is probably your first time racking with a siphon. I would probably dry hop once with 2oz's of FF.
     
  12. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Why would dry hopping once with 2 oz cause you to lose more beer than dry hopping 2x with 1 oz per time? I think an each ounce of hops would absorb the same amount of liquid in both scenarios. Racking of course, does result in loss too, but you wouldn't have to rack each time you dry hopped. Furthermore, some people dry hop in primary, so dry hopping need not involve any racking at all.
     
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  13. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    Quick question to go along with this. I've read that tap water is fine to use, some even prefer it. I have hard water though. Should I use bottles of water, or just go with the tap? I don't mind drinking straight from the tap at all.
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Are you extract brewing or all grain brewing?
    Are there chlorine or chloramines in your water?
     
  15. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    It looks like you ordered an an extract kit, I think. Water chemistry is not such a big deal with extract brewing, with one exception (below). You can probably use your tap water, or if it is very hard, you could dilute with some bottled water. Without knowing your water chemistry, it's difficult for me to decide what I would do. I would probably use the tap water for the first few batches to see how that works for you. If you switch to all-grain brewing, you may want to think about water chemisry more.

    Exception: The one thing that is important about using tap water is that most tapwaters are treated with chlorine and/or chloramine, which will create off flavors in your beer. Chlorine can be dismissed from the water if you pre-boil it or let it sit for a while, but chloramine will not leave the water this way. The two common approaches for getting rid of these chemicals from tap water are using carbon filtration, such as the tap water filter assemblies you can attache to your spigots or camden tablets (potassium metabisulfite) added to the the water before brewing. You can pick up camden tablets at a homebrew shop.

    If you have no filter, no camden tabs, and no knowledge of your water treatment, the safest thing to do is use bottled water for this batch.
     
  16. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    I don't think I said that 2oz once and 1oz twice would be any different when it comes to loss. And I also didn't say that the OP had to rack after every dry hop. I was referring to the OP's plans and questions. The OP's plan is to transfer to secondary. I personally don't use a secondary but telling the OP not to just leads to the same old debate. I only suggested to use 2oz instead of 5oz to limit some loss. The point of my post was just to make the OP aware that between all of the transfers and dry hopping they plan on doing to expect some loss.
     
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  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Sounds good. I guess I misunderstood what you were saying. Perhaps my post will clarify for anyone else who misunderstood. Or maybe I managed to create more confusion, chaos, and mayhem. If so, my work is done. :wink:
     
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