Philly Beer Week 2013 (May 31st - June 9th)

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  1. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Agreed. Last year some of the events there were so good, I found myself driving up from Baltimore during the week for some of them. I used to dream about someday getting to sample draft Abyss and KBS side by side, but figured it was just a hopeless fantasy. Got to see it happen at one of the events last year at Capones.

    I'll be in Falls Church for training the first week in June, and am thinking I may just have to rent a car and drive up for the first weekend of festivities in June.
     
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  2. phillybeer7779

    phillybeer7779 Initiate (0) May 31, 2010 Pennsylvania

    The App is available for download now for iPhones at least. It only covers official events, but it's pretty helpful, especially if you're visiting.
     
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  3. GeoffreyM

    GeoffreyM Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I talked with Matt at Capone's and he said that the guys from Hill Farmstead would not be coming down for this year's Beer Week. I suppose that doesn't mean no beer will, but who knows?
     
  4. ajfa531

    ajfa531 Zealot (686) Jun 2, 2007 New Jersey
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    This was what Shaun said when I was in VT back in January. I was a few pints of Edward deep, but I remember him saying that PBW was too crazy. Not to speak for him, but I believe he prefers coming o town outside of Beer Week.

    - Joe
     
  5. Retail1LO

    Retail1LO Initiate (0) May 4, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Hopefully the beer still makes it down this way even if Shaun doesn't. A Philly Beer Week without HF would be, well, strange. I can totally appreciate and respect his point of view, however. I was at a couple events last year for Hill Farmstead, and swamped isn't even the word. I'm sure everyone has their limits on how much humanity they can take at one time, and some have a lower threshold than others.
     
  6. ThoreauLikeAGirl

    ThoreauLikeAGirl Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2011 Pennsylvania

    not like Shaun is actually going to be missed at any events. He basically stood around and maintained eye contact with the floor the whole time.
    better off sending Mike out for events.
     
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  7. rondufresne

    rondufresne Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I'm sure it's a whole pile of fun for brewers at PBW events--or anything similar--where most of what they hear are things like, "Hey, remember the time you made Abner?? That was awesome."
     
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  8. ThoreauLikeAGirl

    ThoreauLikeAGirl Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2011 Pennsylvania

    if the brewer doesn't have the social skills to rep their brewery correctly, then they shouldn't be doing it. they have hired reps just for that.
     
  9. ajfa531

    ajfa531 Zealot (686) Jun 2, 2007 New Jersey
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    I know that, more often than not, when I'm at beer events in Philly, some of the people attending the events make me think twice about continuing to attend. You have to admit that some of the people that stand out at releases and tappings are not noticed for their primo social skills. I work with kids with disabilities and I feel like some of these people at the events have personality disorders. I don't blame any brewer for not bring thrill about being stuck in close quarters with annoying, intoxicated people. There are a lot of great people in the community. However, the obnoxious ones can still outweigh the good ones.

    - Joe
     
  10. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Obviously, the ability to make good beer doesn't necessarily equate to an ability to demonstrate good social skills. Nevertheless, I think a number of brewers feel obligated to attend events like PBW, because they know their "adoring fans" want to meet them, shake their hand, and ask when they're going to make abner or ephraim again (just as an example). I'm sure it's a complete pain for a lot of them (not everyone is Sam C. after all), but they feel obligated to do it, they know it's expected, and so they do it. Frankly, as someone who doesn't do all that well in crowds himself, I appreciate the effort they make and applaud them for doing it.

    Sure, in many instances the brewery rep could do as good a job or better, but that's not what a lot of people want to see. Again, just speaking for myself, I appreciate the effort brewers like Shaun make in coming down and making themselves available, even if it's apparent that they're not very good at it, and it makes them uncomfortable.
     
  11. ThoreauLikeAGirl

    ThoreauLikeAGirl Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2011 Pennsylvania

    ok, I probably should have been more specific. I, in no means, meant that if a brewer doesn't have the required social skills to meet with fans without panicking, then they shouldn't be brewing. I meant that they shouldn't be the ones going out to the events. They have the reps to do that for them.
    Basically, what I was getting at was that when I met Shaun multiple times at these events, he wasn't even meeting with the fans. I actually ran into him in the stairwell at Jose Pistola's when I was heading to the restroom. We were the only ones there. And I told him "congratulations on your success. happy anniversary for the brewery" or something along those lines and he seriously stared at the floor and walked by me without even a thanks, hello, acknowledgement, or anything. Apparently he reacted that way to a number of people I talked to that wanted to talk or say hi to him.
    It really put a bad taste in my mouth for him, and for the brewery. And other 'holier than thou' actions he has done lately does not help that matter the bit and just further cements my feelings towards him.
    So my point is... if you can't even do the bare minimum of fan interaction, then don't go. and then don't complain that the events were "too crazy" for you.
    I didn't want to have to go into that much detail and all since now i'm going to be attacked for it probably. but whatever. bring it on :wink:
     
  12. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Maybe you made him nervous Lauren. :-)

    And I didn't mean to attack you. I agree that many of the brewers you run into during PBW don't have the best social skills, or are simply overwhelmed by the crowds. I spoke briefly to Shaun at Capones a couple of PBW's ago, and while he was pleasant and polite, I kind of got the feeling that the crowds of people coming up to him were wearing on him a bit.

    My only point was that despite not having the best social skills, I appreciate that a number of brewers still make the effort to attend many of the various PBW events, even though it's probably not something they enjoy all that much. Even if the brewery rep might do a much better job of talking to people and promoting the product, for a lot of people attending PBW, there's no substitute for meeting the actual brewer. I suspect that's why brewers like Shaun go to the trouble of coming down for the event (even if he sucks at the "meet and greet" aspect of the event).
     
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  13. ThoreauLikeAGirl

    ThoreauLikeAGirl Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2011 Pennsylvania

    oh I didn't think you were attacking me, john. I was just foreshadowing other responses that might result from these from other uses haha.
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Below is something I posted in a previous thread concerning Shaun Hill:

    “Permit me to tell a Shaun Hill story. I have never been to the brewery but I got a chance to meet Shaun Hill at Teresa’s Next Door (Wayne, PA) as part of Philly Beer Week 2012. My wife and I had a chance to talk to Shaun for 10-15 minutes. He is a very pleasant guy and very open in communicating. I am a homebrewer so I asked a number of technical brewing questions which Shaun patiently and cordially answered. I then made an honest statement to Shaun: “I have had a large number of your beers and every one of your beers has been very, very good.” Shaun replied: “That’s because we never let a ‘bad’ batch out of our brewery.” I replied: “You never had to dump a batch, did you? He responded” “Yes, and that is tough to do when you only have $5,000.00 in the bank.” So, apparently Shaun did experience a few ‘hiccups’ during his startup but he had the integrity to not sell what he considered to be subpar beer. Yup, Shaun Hill is an excellent brewer on many levels.”

    Cheers!
     
  15. drinker36

    drinker36 Initiate (0) May 19, 2010 Michigan

    Brewers today are like rockstars, whether you want them to be or not, and whether they want to be or not.

    Constant attention, lovers, and haters will wear on anyone and they can't escape it except when the brewery is closed to visitors. That said there are 2 main differences between today's top brewers and rockstars:

    1) Most rockstars don't have their fans running up to them saying they want to play guitar right then and there with them (fans always want to have a beer with the brewer) or asking them how they can play better (how to brew better)
    2) Rockstars have security to keep the crazies away. Brewers do not (99.9% of the time)

    So please apply the same courtesy and respect when meeting your favorite brewer that you would to meeting your significant others parents, the president, or the pope.*

    Cheers

    *Now I know I'm going to get a hate reply from someone that doesn't have a significant other, and hates the president and the pope.
     
  16. ThoreauLikeAGirl

    ThoreauLikeAGirl Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I'll be courteous to them if they'd be courteous to me. Works both ways, bub.
    on my shitlist already thanks to this rule:
    1) Firestone Walker
    2) Hill Farmstead
     
  17. riemster

    riemster Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2011 Ohio

    I'm a super friendly person and love to strike up conversation especially with brewers. If they don't want to, then who the fuck cares? You guys think too highly of yourself. Just like celebrities, they are regular people. You are not special therefore they don't care if they speak to you. Sure, some will care, but if you want to talk with a brewer in a regular situation, then go to their actual brewery. Don't crowd them in an overly crowded area to begin with and expect them to be friendly and talkative. Then, make remarks on beer advocate about how social inept they were or how they are on your shit list.
     
  18. riemster

    riemster Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2011 Ohio

    Moving on, I'm so glad I decided to go to Philly Beer Week, but my wallet is extremely angry at me. The iPhone app is awesome and helpful! I can't wait to go to some of these places.
     
  19. ThoreauLikeAGirl

    ThoreauLikeAGirl Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I hope you don't run your own business.
    That is the point i'm trying to make. If you're trying to market your product, don't be a dick to your customers.

    it amazes how quick people are able to defend this type of practice.
    if you read what I said, not anywhere did I say I approached him in a crowded bar. we were alone on a staircase.
     
  20. ThoreauLikeAGirl

    ThoreauLikeAGirl Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2011 Pennsylvania

    in addition, I also didn't expect a conversation with the dude. just a simple "thanks" would've been cool.
     
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