From Good to Great

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by TastyAdventure, Apr 24, 2013.

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  1. TastyAdventure

    TastyAdventure Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2012 Kentucky

    I'm about to do my 3rd batch, and was hoping to get some helpful hints.

    What do you think is one of the best things to do to take homebrew from good to great?

    please, say anything but sanitizing... I got that one.
     
  2. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Fermentation temperature control. Fermentation control is what I credit most with my making tasty beers. I have a freezer/johnson controller and fermentation temperatures are always 64-66F. Makes for tasty beer.
     
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  3. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Fresh ingredients.
    Well-designed recipe.
    Water quality / brewing salts.
    Temperature control during fermentation.
    Data collection and analysis.
     
  4. Mfedonczak

    Mfedonczak Initiate (0) Aug 18, 2008 Texas

    After sanitation I think the most important thing to control is your fermentation temps.
     
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  5. TastyAdventure

    TastyAdventure Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2012 Kentucky

    thanks so far!

    btw I brew extract with steeping grains....
     
  6. TastyAdventure

    TastyAdventure Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2012 Kentucky

    Brewing salts??

    and any tips/resources on developing a well-designed recipe? this next one is going to be my very own, not a clone or pre-made simple style recipe.
     
  7. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Don't be afraid to experiment with partial mash if you're getting good results with steeping grains and extract. It's not much different.

    EDIT: and making your own recipes is easy, if you do a little research first.
     
  8. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Temp control, proper yeast pitching rate, oxygenation, yeast nutrient... thats what brought me from good to great (at least I consider what I brew to be above average)
     
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  9. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    This worked for me. The only thing I can add is to keep detailed notes (yes, that really improves your beer)
     
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  10. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Ive been very lazy with my notes recently which is pissing me off since now I cant keep track of my sours and exact spice additions in other beers. I really have to get back on track with that.
     
  11. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    All water is not created equal.
    The judicious addition of brewing salts such as...
    Code:
    Gypsum (CaSO4)
    Epsom Salt (MgSO4)
    Canning Salt (NaCl)
    Baking Soda (NaHCO3)
    Calcium Chloride (CaCl2)
    Chalk (CaCO3)
    Pickling Lime (Ca(OH)2)
    Magnesium Chloride (MgCl2)
    ...can work wonders on the finished product by adjusting the pH and tweaking the flavor profile.

    You'll 1st need a water report (W-6: household mineral water | Home Brewer - Beer test ) and software / spreadsheet to figure out what and how much to add to your water. More important when mashing grains than with extract.

    In either case...chlorinated water should be avoided.
    At this stage in your brewing adventure...may be best to stick with proven recipes before adventuring off on your own. BYO magazine has plenty of recipes for a variety of styles.
     
  12. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Purchasing Beersmith is also a good idea. Makes it easy to develop recipes and you can save all your notes in the same place.
     
  13. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I have personally found beersmith to be worth the price. It's not perfect but it's got tons of detail and you can dial in your numbers fairly easily. Making recipes and changing things like the AA% of your particular hops isn't hard at all. Comparing and saving recipes/notes is also pretty easy. A bit over-complex at times, but otherwise I'd recommend beersmith to just about any homebrewer.
     
  14. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    using quality fresh ingredients
    brewing water quality / control
    fermentation temperature control
    wort oxygenation system
    stir plate for starters
    better recipe formulation
    -beersmith2.0, ray daniels designing great beers & jamil z. brewing classic styles are great starting points
     
  15. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Good advice. I'd add that I can build virtually every useful water profile I want (from either distilled/RO water or tap water) with just three of those... Gypsum, Calcium Chloride, and Pickling Lime. Plus Lactic Acid when I need to lower pH without increasing minerals.

    I'dd also add that since OP is extract brewing, water tweaking is probably of limited value, since he won't know what minerals are already in the extract, and by the time he can make educated guesses about that, he'll probably have moved on to all grain brewing.
     
  16. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Here are six that I consider important:

    Adequate Yeast Pitch Rates
    Fermentation Temperature Control
    Adequate Oxygenation of the Wort
    Exclusion of Oxygen from the Finished Beer
    Make sure your yeast get the trace elements (nutrients) they need (mainly zinc)
    Water Profiles that enhance the Style Brewed
     
  17. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I think the three things I noticed that made my brewing better were temp control, oxygenating wort at the time of pitch, and proper yeast pitch rate. It's all been said before, but the difference really is night and day. The first thing I thought when I regulated all three was, "wow, my beers are shaping up quicker." They will, and they will taste better overall.

    Godron Strong also has a book Brewing Better Beer. It pushes you to break down your brewing process and expects you to dissect the hows and whys of your brewing.
     
  18. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    My bad.
    Didn't see where OP was brewing with extract.
     
  19. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'll add the book I mentioned is for AG brewers. :slight_smile:
     
  20. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    For someone on their 3rd batch, I would say that the first two are easy and well worth the trouble of dealing with, especially with an extract batch. And then careful racking/bottling for #4 is also easy to deal with.

    If I was making a list for a newish brewer, I would say fermentation temperature is the most critical and easy to deal with. And full boils vs. partial boils.
     
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