Update on possible job at a brewery

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  1. MammaGoose

    MammaGoose Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Wyoming

    I got a lot of support and positive feedback from many people here, so I thought I owed everyone an update. Also, anymore advice (especially those who have worked at breweries!) would be very much appreciated.

    (Here's the scoop for those of you who have forgotten or missed my original thread --> http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/possible-job-at-a-brewery-wise-decision.81770/ )

    Well, I had the interview, got a call back the next day, and the job is mine if I want it.

    I'm still pretty torn. To start with, I would be working one weekday per week during business hours cleaning kegs. Super basic bitchwork. I would most likely still be able to continue working as a chemist at the environmental lab and just go 3-4 days/week part time. THEN, I would be going part time at the brewery. 2-4 days of the week is what they're estimating. More keg cleaning, grain hauling, tank scrubbing, but I would also start working on the brand new canning line. And doing increasingly cooler stuff, more involved with the actual brewing. The brewmaster assured me that my position absolutely will become full time with benefits any time between this Fall and next Spring. So I would be looking at 6-12 months of part time, and that would be the hard part.

    The part time thing is scary to me. The days that they would need me might vary, so another work schedule might be hard to work around. I talked to my boyfriend, and he thinks it's awesome. He would love for me to work in the craft beer industry as well as do something I'm passionate about. He has a good stable upper management job, and while we're not rolling in cash, it wouldn't hurt us too badly financially. We don't have kids, no debt...But I'm still worried about going from a very stable full time position with benefits to facing 6-12 months of part time work with no benefits.

    I'm leaning towards going for it though. This is my chance. I turned it down last time, and I've regretted it ever since. If I want to work in the beer industry, I need to grow a pair and say "yes" by Friday. The bitchwork doesn't bother me. I've worked in agriculture and have fixed fence, stacked hay, shoveled towers of poo, etc. I like active jobs. I also don't mind starting at the bottom and working my way up. With the way this brewery has grown and expanded and the fact that it's scrambling to keep up with all the growth and expansion, I'm confident that I can also grow with the company.

    Whew, another long post....
     
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  2. BleepBloopBlap

    BleepBloopBlap Zealot (503) Aug 19, 2011 Massachusetts

    If you regret not taking it last time, seems like a no brainer. If you have an opportunity to do something you love, take the chance and go for it!
     
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  3. StonedTrippin

    StonedTrippin Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,880) May 28, 2011 Colorado
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    yeah let it ride! you'll kill it!
     
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  4. loafinaround

    loafinaround Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2011 New York

    aigh that's a tough choice. Guess it really depends upon how much you 1) really love brewing, and 2) don't love chemistry anymore.
    I burned out from lab work after 14 years.... didn't take long. I took a small pay cut and now am a prof who is teaching, with very little research anymore. Once again, compromises were an order. Have a MASSIVE commute now. That being said, I'm happier. My job is social (better suited to my personality), and I love the kiddos in brooklyn.
    If you really sigh every morning when you go to work, I say go for it. Kinda a shame to toss your phd... never to be utilized again. Wondering if in the end, there's a chemistry application to brewing that you could eventually have a position doing. would be the best of both worlds, really.
     
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  5. kemoarps

    kemoarps Grand Pooh-Bah (3,256) Apr 30, 2008 Washington
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    I remember your previous post, and would fathom to guess that you will probably receive very similar responses this time.

    There's a reason for that.

    Yes. It will be scary (especially the part time thing), but like you said, it's not as if you don't have a fallback/it's going to cripple you financially. All too rarely do people have the opportunity to do something they genuinely love. If you are as passionate about this as your posts appear (and many on these boards probably are), you absolutely owe it to yourself to take that dive. As someone who has worked with the elderly and dying, the regrets they express are ostensibly that they did not spend as much time following a passion; NOT that they didn't make as much money, or didn't utilize a specific certification.
    From your post this time around, it sounds like your environmental lab is at least amenable to accommodating this transition: if (god forbid) the brewery gig should fall through completely, do you think they'd be willing to consider rehiring you for your old position?

    It's easy for me to sit here on a keyboard and tell you to throw caution to the winds: it's not my life, and and it's not my consequences should the worst occur. But I can't overstate how awesome this opportunity sounds (and that's before even factoring in the fact that it sounds like the brewery itself [and the people in charge] are pretty cool).

    tl;dr DO IT
     
  6. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    So I have to know. You passed up a job the first time at this brewery. What is that person doing now? Something that you would like?

    If you are still in your 20's you still have a good 40 years of work in your life. Think about that.
     
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  7. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    I remember last time reading your post about this too and you stating your regret about not going for it.
    Here's your second chance girl! Go for it!
     
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  8. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    I should have read this post before writing my response, because this is perfect. Very well put kemoarps.
     
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  9. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    There is a time where a stable permanent no-frills job is appropriate...that time for you, is not now. My advice is to go for what you think you'll enjoy. There's just no point to passing up on passion for security, especially when you have no dependents.

    Go for it. Be happy. No regrets.
     
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  10. MADhombrewer

    MADhombrewer Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2008 Oregon

    Forgive me for just scanning this thread.

    What if you parlay your chemistry job into a chemist for a brewery. Quality Assurance thing? Sorry if this has been brought up already.
     
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  11. VonZipper

    VonZipper Savant (1,005) Feb 9, 2011 New York

  12. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
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    Try this. I mean it isn't the most glamorous but it is necessary (at least for the larger craft brewers). You might be less directly involved in the brewing and development process, but you will be much more indispensable to them, which is key.
     
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  13. StoutOne

    StoutOne Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2009 New York

    Do it. You know you want too.
     
  14. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    If you don't go for it this time, I'd be afraid of the regret you'll feel if the opportunity doesn't present itself again. You've put all the life stuff out there. You guys can get by. I feel like you are trying to talk yourself out of it. I get that. You like the life you have. While the transition may be bumpy in the beginning, you'll figure it out. Go for it and don't look back.
     
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  15. MammaGoose

    MammaGoose Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Wyoming

    Thanks everyone...I know I wasn't really expecting any different answers. I also realize that of course the beer enthusiast community is going to say "go for it!" And it's not that I don't want unanimously optimistic advice, but I appreciate that you all understand the beer industry more than the general public and can see this opportunity as an exciting one. Try telling your family that you're thinking about giving up your full time, fully-benefited position as a radiochemist at an environmental quality testing facility. To be a part time keg cleaner. And then hopefully brew beer, lol.

    I'm very afraid of the regret. It sucked the first time around. This time, I'm fairly certain I'm in a position where I can go for it without having a lot to lose. If I do the one-day-a-week keg cleaning gig for a bit, my current company doesn't have a huge issue with going full time to part time and back to full time. So if I hate the brewery thing, then I'll quit, and go back to full time at the lab. If I pass up on the brewery job, I'll be living with twice the regret. I'm 25 years old, no kids, in a great position financially for my age, and have an incredibly supportive boyfriend. There is absolutely no reason I shouldn't take a risk to go after something I'm passionate about.

    The part time thing for 6-12 months scares me. That's pretty much the only detail holding me back.

    And here's a question for anyone who has worked in the brewery/beer industry...perhaps it's a ridiculous question...but are female employees pretty well accepted in the work environment? I grew up on a ranch, have a background and education in agriculture, and I can stack hay, toss 50lb bags of grain, and operate equipment just fine. But a lot of guys still see a 125lb lady trying to do man's work. Perhaps it's sexism, perhaps it's gentlemanly chivalry, perhaps it's the truth.
     
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  16. timbro81

    timbro81 Zealot (709) Jun 26, 2006 Oklahoma

    Firstly, nothing worth doing is going to be easy. Secondly, as a brewery employee, if you can do the work and I don't have to babysit you and you can learn quickly, you're the bee's knees. Do it.
     
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  17. FunkyMacGroovin

    FunkyMacGroovin Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 California

    There's your answer right there.
     
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  18. dap325

    dap325 Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2009 New York

    You're young, have no debt or kids.. there is NOTHING stopping you. Your boyfriend is supportive and this is what you want to do. Don't look back on what could have been.. make it happen now. If it doesn't work out than deal with that when the time comes.. you'll never know until you try. If the guarantee for full time is there than grind out those few part time months with ramen noodles and PBR and look forward to a job that you'll love doing, rather than one you drag yourself out of bed for. Lemme be the first to say.. ISO: MammaGoose's first brew. Good luck!
     
  19. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Maven (1,265) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico
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    My 125 pound 26 year old daughter works as a mudlogger on a drilling rig in SE New Mexico, definitely a man's world but she's smart and tough and nobody hassles her. As long as you're confident in your abilities and don't play the helpless girl you'll do just fine. BTW I have about 14 women mudloggers working for me, I don't believe in men's vs women's work-it just needs to get done.
    If I were in your position I wouldn't hesitate, I just don't really see any downside. If I were your age with the backup resources you have I'd dive right in and never look back. Good luck, let us know how you like your new job.
     
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