Fantome Saison: Slimy?

Literally every version this year is a smokey accident

 

I caught a bottle of Delirium Noel for dirt cheap a couple weeks back. Had a very thick tapioca like consistency toward the middle to bottom of the bottle. I know most Belgians will have some sediment at the bottom but this was a different story. Sounds like a similar issue.

 

He isnt producing hoppy beer, so its not that big of a deal.

 

If thats what keeps you happy overpaying for whatever he conjures up...

 

Youre lucky because the good ones are good, but the bad ones are draipours.

 

Can you explain the kettle and smoke situation. I am curious.

 

I assumed it was some sort of odd infection that was giving it that smokiness. Had a Boo and a Extra Sour 2013 that were both "smokey"

Anyone know what can cause that? It doesn't taste like smoked malt; it's different.

 

interesting. New Extreme Fantome, now with actual fantome ectoplasm added 3 times to the kettle?!

 

The actual regular Saison is out? I knew the Printemps was making its way over, but I hadn't heard anything about the 2013 Saison.

 

Smokey is produced by Brett depending on a variety of variables. 4-ethyl guaiacol is the smoke phenol. Embrace the funk.

 

Vinnie refers to what happens in the barrel. No amount of aging in the bottle will get rid of the ropiness. The pressures of bottling and bottle conditioning will hinder further process.

 

He was talking about his sours, which spend a long time (years I would think) in the barrels.

 

2013 saison was on shelves in late February up here

 

Huh. No shit...

 

Just ordered 2 bottles. Never had it, so I hope it's not bad

 

Smoke has been the only experience I've gotten with all of my recent bottles, never the slime.

 

I just picked up a couple bottles last week. Do they do any bottle dating? Sorry for the newb question but unfortunately I'm a newb.

 

No, they don't date their bottles.

And, as far as my experience goes, EVERY SINGLE bottle of Fantome is completely different. If your bottle is bad, try buying it again at a different place.

 

pilsner urquell or heineken aren't "hoppy" by the standards of most american craft drinkers, but are easily skunked. you only need a miniscule amount of skunking to ruin a whole bottle.

http://www.brewsnews.com.au/2010/08/beer-bottles-the-answer-is-not-clear/

'The flavour threshold of 3-methylbut-2-ene-1-thiol is so low that a concentration of even a few parts per billion (equivalent to one drop in 50,000 litres) is enough to irreversibly spoil the beer and impart the characteristic “lightstruck” flavours and odours.'